Only thing I think should change is how loud a predator is when you are crouch walking he should be much more quieter that’s the only thing.
About balance
A. We don’t even have SBMM. Balance doesn’t even exist without that.
B. Siege does it just well.
Sure we don’t have SBMM, but like suggested:
If you’re part of a community of players with similar skill levels, just do the SBMM yourself and go for privates, there is currently no other way and its being done that way on the PCE Discord for weeks now.
Most privates there are already being played under special rules and modifiers to make games more fair and fun for everyone.
A lot of people already created great custom modes that will enable more fair or fun matches, we just need to share and play them.
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Yes privates are an option. But it’s not an excuse for leaving the quick play option as complete garbage.
Of course, it’s not, and we have every right to complain here, so the devs see the feedback.
But that’s not solution-focused.
old school hunt
Reinforcement timer 60 seconds
Pred damage 110%
FT damage 90%
AI health 90%
No specialization
This is more or less how the game was before they started buffing FT and nerfing Pred
Try it, and let’s see how good FT you really are
FT have gotten lazy with specializations, they rely too much on sniper,spotter, leader and deadly
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I dont think health was lower for ft, and no, it literally was around 30% or 40% less ft damage back in the day.
Which is what I tested recently, because I always felt ever since 2.0. Came out that That’s what it used to be.
Which sounds like a lot I know, but 40% still let’s ft do decent damage with meta shit, it just makes single ft damage feel actually balanced.
Even with that much reduction a good team will still push back the pred.
You say we dont wanna go through the trouble of testing balance, trust me if illfonic listened I wouldn’t mind gathering people to test stuff out.
I used to.
But when feedback gets ignored for like a year, what’s the point?
I’m really not the only one.
Theres quite a few others who I’ve played with that test stuff out too.
And honestly, illfonic doesn’t want to balance ft out right?
Then what we need are new mechanics For pred.
You want him to go up against bullshit?
Give Him the tools to do so.
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did I said lower ft health? where?
I read A.i. as ft.
But that also applies I dont remember a.i. health being lower.
oh trust me it was. They buffed it I think in the 3rd patch. They made AI stronger, deal more damage and appear in greater numbers
I’m going purely off memory, they’ve always felt annoying.
I remember them always taking the same amount of hits to kill.
However ya, I definitely felt and noticed higher numbers on average.
probably on the grunts is still the same, but the juggernauts were not that buffed. They were a lot easier to kill, specially with headshots. Given the increased weapon damage from FT and the fact that they feel stronger now, even after that, I’d say is safe to say they were buffed. Anyway, reducing FT damage and reducing AI health the same amount just seems fair.
A lot of ppl want that.
It’s a constant I see.
Sometimes they feel like a joke tho.
I just wish ilfonic made them smarter.
Like unless it’s a group really feels like they do nothing to the ft.
TBH most of the time they are far more lethal than most preds, lol
It makes absolutely no sense how a fucking helmet or body armor can stop a .50 cal. Unless you use perks and specializations to increase damage, you won’t 1 shot those armored ones with any weapon. And even with those, if you are far enough, they won’t go down.
To me, is absolutely ridiculous how the damage is decreased with distance against AI but against PRED is almost the same across the whole range.
So much common sense in this thread. I can’t wait for it all to be ignored by the devs. Good times. 😅😞
I dont blame i bet theyre reading the ‘add whatever celebrity to the FT next’ threads
I agree with the second part, but, you look at this too much from a realistic point of view.
Have you seen or played the division?
I never could get into it because regular humans took 1000 bullets to kill sometimes.
Not an exaggeration because the game works off rpg mechanics.
So typically I hate that.
That’s also why I hate pkaying core modes instead of hardcore in fps games.
Normal humans should die in 2-3 shots no more.
However for this game, since ft takes a lot to kill, it only makes sense that A.I. does as well.
It’s funny how a lot of complains I have for other games people seem to have these problems here lol.
But in this game these things seen fitting.
I honestly wish a.i. was more of a problem for the ft.
Sure they’re annoying but theyre also easy to deal with.
Like honestly if there was no pred this game would just be a joke.
It shouldnt be like that.
The mission should also be a challenge not just pred.
FT hits their skill ceiling way before pred does and theirs is 4x more effective when they do so. Id level with you if pred was atleast rewarded for headshots but nope the damage output just isnt there if you get 1 good player vs 4 good players, then only give one side specializations and hitscan weapons. Its pretty blatantly one sided. Oh no pred has the shit AI on his side I guess and an endless supply of DLC melee weapons that are all worse than the elder sword you get at like lv10 while FT gets Hammerhead lmao
This was a thing when FT could INFINITELY PARRY giving them insane 1v1 potential at this point in time esp since preds couldnt aim and only wanted to melee but people would rather bitch about “braindead combistick melee” rather than just taking two seconds to figure out that you could equip your knife and mash heavy attack and just permastun the guy swinging combistick around.
Now the game is just caster keep away while field medic just revives over and over woo hoo.
still say there needs to be a ranking system and buffs/nerfs based on ranking. not divide player pools by rank, player base is small enough as it is.
4 ‘high rank’ FT members get a DPS nerf vs a low rank predator and pred gets more damage/heath etc etc
Any good PC premade its not even fun for them its too easy :P
Whatever combinations of nerfs and buffs works.
Did a detailed post about it many many months ago, still see its a problem with ballance and impossible to ballance for all skills without some measure of player skill.
Distance shots with assault rifles need turned down against pred, pred needs to stop giving its position away by clicking. Ranged weapons need to lose the glow trail that give your position away.