Are PS Controller players at the same level as PC K/M players

#38

If you’re a PC player who is sufficiently pissed off by the belief you’re ’carrying’ lesser console players (to the point where you like to often create threads for the specific purpose of belittling PS players due to your false sense of superiority) then just fucking turn crossplay off - there, sorted. You never have to play with PS players again.

…oh, what’s that you say? The PC player base is tiny by comparison to the PS one, so you’ll struggle to get games? Oh, well cry me a river. Guess it’s the PS guys and their shitty controllers propping you up by allowing you to play the game in the first place.

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#39

This is untrue. However, controllers weren’t intended to compete with mouse point-and-click.

They certainly are. If you releases a game on console, it is always assumed that they will be using a controller. For an FPS, that means options like linear or exponential sensitivity, dead zone size, and aim assist on/off. Illfonic took the easy way out on this, and they are certainly responsible for the difficulty of the aiming on console.

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#40

But then how would they ever fulfill their need to feel superior?

Exactly. It’s unfortunate that including crossplay was probably one of the worst decisions made for this game. If I wanted crossplay, I’d like to play X-Box players.

#41

“No es la flecha es el indio”

That’s a say on my hometown

Thing is, potato/potato. You could have a Bugatti and if you are a shitty driver a professional will beat you on the track with a Miata.

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#43

But I’ll say this, @MassImpact124 didn’t specify what genre of game. When it comes to FPS there’s no doubt that for aiming, mouse is miles ahead of a controller joystick or whatever they call those things. But if you are talking fighting games, I don’t think anyone will use kb&m at a competitive level.

The reason why I say mouse is better for FPS, but not keyboard, is because I think the thumbstick, joystick, fuckstick on the left side is better than the WASD keys for movement. My opinion tho, I’d have to do some research.

Here’s a good little debate on Reddit about thumbstick vs WASD and not surprisingly, a lot of people think thumbstick is better.

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#44

Well you got me there. Should have put the words FPS shooters. I dont think anyone expected to play PHG good with controllers, it was their ego that let them dip into their wallets for this game.

In the back of their minds they were like “oh god i hope the aim is like Uncharted” and it turned out that half of the game was and Pred maining was all they did…and complain about FT.

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#45

I always get you…always 👀

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#46

But the thing is that you are not specifying what “level” you really are referring to. Almost all of us interpreted as of level of gameplay, that, while more convenient input methods will definitely assist you in better gameplay, it does not necessarily correlate to the skill of the player.

In other words, there are a lot of console players out there that will beat a lot of PC players with ease, because they are more experienced.

BTW both me and Scar played this game fully on controller. And while we both agree that Mouse is better for aiming, anyone here can attest that we were playing really good, above even the average PC player on K&M… WITH A CONTROLLER.

Like I said… “No es la flecha, es el indio”

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#47

Well its all about strategy then.
Good FT console controller players will often not chase preds but often require 4 full on FT working pred at once to defeat. Does that make them great? Maybe, but still the level of strategy and play style differ.
I can’t really agree with you as then PC keyb/m encompass this already where as PS only can do half of what PC players do.
Its just what they are capable of right from the get go. I might also be saying that that may not be your cup of tea beacuse it requires Crossplay styles to mix and one has to accommodate the other.

At the broadstrokes I think I’m accurate. But what you think I’m talking about is what they can do which is a little more detailed of a subject matter.

#48

None of this is correct

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#49

Well lets just assume. Because everyone tries hard. especially with that bloody controller.

#50

Also 100% inaccurate

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#51

PLus its sweat fest with a controller and nerve racking. The ability to get good has to be increased when you get into crossplay. I mean PS preds sometimes are hard…sometimes. But PC preds dont even have to blink sometimes with most cross play FT.

#52

On the contrary, I’m far more relaxed and casual with my controller on PS5 than I am with a mouse on PC

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#53

you’re a gem! You made tutorials for them!

#54

I made them for everyone. I’ve had a few PC Steam users thank me because they found them on @SkooLBoY_SkePtiK website and it helped immensely.

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#55

Kudos! I liked them as well. However I yet seen or heard 5 year olds get any better.

#56

Well considering only 301 people have seen them. That might be a determining factor

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#57

You’re making a lot of assumptions here and all of them are wrong lol

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#58

Mass you have a Playstation also, right?

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