Deal with these cheaters!

#111

How is it equivalent? How many special combos does FT has? NONE. But let’s be honest here, nobody complains about Pred macros, which ironically, DOES HAVE SPECIAL COMBOS which will down you in a single hit. FT has two usable macros, to get out of the net (just as fast as you would by using a controller with paddles or using to adjacent keybinds, which the game allows) and the grimtech “turbo fire” which can be done with a turbo controller and I already posted evidence of how you can do it with the mouse wheel, without any macros…

So what’s the point of macros being “unfair”? How does it provide any advantage that can’t be achieved other ways? Other than saving hardware life, I don’t see any advantage.

You wanna consider it cheating? Fine, is not like I or any of the guys who use it, care. But going to the lengths of saying you can program aim-bots and wallhacks and that you are only good becaue of that, is ridiculous.

Now as to public matches, what else do I consider is okay? Anything goes. I have absolutely no control of my opponents decisions to what they use, so, I’ll get ready for the worse. Already seen a handful of players being able to cancel the parry stun, slam in place, rubber band disk (hits you twice).

Wallhacks and aimbots do not exist for this game. If they did, I would know, because, you know… ;)

The only actual cheat is ping manipulation. When you see those guys with 999ms ping… flee…
Because the game is server sided with ping manipulation you can literally have your opponent running into a wall. If you time it correctly, you will re-connect and comeback with all the damage you did to a standing still opponent. Cheap and boring, other than trolling some players who think of themselves as god-tier, I see no fun in doing it.

#112

The Problem is… I win 50-100 Matches in a row and then comes a PC-Death Squad who makes my life to hell and at this point i get hunted over the map.

Its not easy but even here you can use against them… let them hunt you and when they can´t see you, wait when they are near and attack. A small attack and after that run, jump and hide… Shure you cant win with this but its way better to fight in defensiv as in offensive against these guys. And try to attack from the ground they watch for the trees because 95% of all Predators come and attack from the tree

When iam lucky i can kill one, normal I am happy to survive and I cant kill one of them, in worst case I get killed by that guys. Last time i got killed was when I use range attacks and in the first infight attack with my Elder Sword I got so much damage, my health was down in 1 1/2 seconds… IDK how they do this, maybe I got hit by all guys at same time. Thats happen so fast i didn’t know what happened.

But in my opinion its only a very small group of guys which are so strong. Even most PC FT I can kill but guys like Scarface, Samhain, Thunderwolf, that Beerdrinking dude and some few others are at a complete other level.

Its not only their shooting skills, they know how to use all that FT equipment stuff and when they can locate you all the time its very, very hard. Thunderwolf and that Beer Guy (forgot the Name :) are so fucking strong even with the knife, its unbelievable! Also their moving and change from Gun to knife and back again is superp.

So i dont think these guys are cheating, they are only very strong and know the game mechanics.

But 1 of 30 PS4 (5) FT are also very strong. Not so strong like these PC Squads, but also very competiv and I had very good matches against them.

When I join a lobby and i can read these named and known players, iam happy for the challenge at one point, but at the other point i can shit in my pants… Also you need to be very careful from beginning and dont let provocate you for a infight attack without a brain.

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#113

FT are good because they know the maps and the missions. They know the locations of medkits and ammo crates. They also know when and how to use them. They know how to dodge and parry attacks. They know how to hunt down the pred. They play pred a lot, they know all pred habits and usual hiding spots. And we are almost always on comms, which means is not one pair of eyes and ears actively looking for you, but four of them.

Is really hard, but if you are somewhat shitty enough they will let their guard down and you can get one or two kills.

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#114

That’s exactly what happens. A single FT with the 1011 will take about 75% of your health in 2 seconds. Two or three more shooting at you with the same gun… you get the idea.

We have been able to shoot preds down so fast they can’t even activate the bomb

#115

This is a painful truth and one of the worst aspects of this game is that bad play can be rewarded in such a way as to encourage it. I’m seeing a LOT of combi rushers now and bet this is the reason. They mow down noobs and think this is a great easy way to win, then get their asses handed to them by one smart and experienced FT player and rage quit.

#116

Yesterday, me and @Scarface_1983 saw a PS dude shooting a combistick at us with no animation. There was no lifting combi and aiming. And then some ppl here are trying to paint a picture of how console players don’t cheat. It’s ridiculous.

#117

it can be done without macros. Just press Aim and Fire at the same time. You will unlikely press them simultaneously, but a difference in timing is so little that you will “hip-fire”. Is not cheating, IMO.

The infamous “bow bug” where you attack with your wristblades instead of shooting is an error in timing. If you hit the fire button before the aim button, you will attack with the wristblades.

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#118

Ah, ok, I haven’t tried that. I got so used to playing against PC Preds who shoot combi’s like they were bullets that I actually popped Tab to see if that dude was on PC, then I asked Scarface if he saw the same.

Oh man, I know about that bug. But on my side, from my experience, my CH '97 was bugged with wristblade attacks to the point where he would slash even when I don’t click at all to aim or shoot.

Few months back, I fired an arrow and didn’t click anything after that, I was just standing still and my CH did a wristblade attack.

It can get so annoying sometimes. I’m a fast clicker so I get it that this game can bug out if you do multiple actions in a short amount of time but when I saw my CH doing an attack when I didn’t even pressed anything, I was like fuck CH and I stopped using it for a while.

#119

I’ve had a few instances where inputs are not registered right away and later they activate, like seconds later… more often than not happens in private matches

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#120

It’s ping related. Whenever I play privates with high ping, I kill an AI and after two seconds I see AI dropping. But when I host, like you said, it’s not happening.

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#121

No one should use any macros, on any faction.
Because you are removing the need to do the manual inputs yourself, its cheating.
And I’m sorry you dont see how it’s the same as using a macro to spam hadokens or do combos, but it is.

Another thing.
You’re acting like I use or would use macros.
Not for pvp. Maybe for a single player game with a LOT of required inputs like a space sim game but not for multiplayer. At least not pvp.
I dont like easy mode or unfair advantages.

Unlike you man, I just dont find cheating fun.

You’re fine with minor ones.
I get that.
Its fucked up, but whatever, not my problem.

But if youre fine with small ones, I can already imagine if someone pisses you off in a match, you would bust out full on hacks or cheats xD.

You never grew out of the cheat code phase most of us had as kids lol.

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#122

You thought that was cheating?
Lmao I do that all the time.
You basically have to quick scope and press aim right before u throw.

Lol

#123

But you run the netgun

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#124

HAH to torture ppl lol.
You struggle no matter if theres a net gun or not:p

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#125

I’m gonna net you.
Just cause you dont like it lol.

DONE2

DONE1

3DONE

Net

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#126

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#127

Well if you shoot the combi by canceling animation, there’s no actual animation of Pred lifting the combi and throwing it, it literally goes out like a bullet and Hamlet said, that’s not intended.

Furthermore, you can add another “combo” with animation canceling, like shooting combi followed by insta shooting arrow, that way you’ll deal over 170 dmg in less than a second, basically downing any class. Do I consider that “gameplay” as cheating?
Yes I do.

#128

It’s just quick scoping.
And you also get thrown into the animation of busting out your claws.

I, dont do the combi into arrow nor am I planning on using it.
I just throw the stick faster.

And since I dont focus on only throwing the stick, it’s not like I’m hopping around only throwing the stick.

So, I’m sorry to tell you, this ain’t cheating.
Unless you wanna start considering quick scoping on ft or hip firing with a sniper rifle cheating.

Now, if it would cancel out the busting out the wrist blades animation, then sure.

But this doesn’t make any really difference.

So throwing the combi into an arrow?
Sure, a problem I guess.

But quick scoping the combi?
Not really.

#129

Mind you, you still gotta fucking aim the thing, it’s not like its turns into a homing rocket.

The way I see it instead of lifting his arm to throw, the pred does an underhand throw.

#130

Nah, you are talking about quick scoping, I’m talking about canceling animations.
We’re both right, just on two different topics I guess.