I haven't played the game since a bit before Isa

#27

You cant factor in skill level for balance, on the low end or high.
Even mid.

I mean I’ve said a million times before, I dont really like to talk about it anymore cause no one listens or actually cares about actual balance.

The majority of ppl who say its balanced just enjoy bullying preds, or having a pretty extreme advantage, so they go off it feeling fine to them.
They don’t try to actually analyze the game itself.

Then you got people who try to balance off certain peoples skill level, and because of those results, they think it’s fine.

It’s rare for me to even mention anything about balance on the forums anymore, because no one really cares about having an actual discussion anymore, like you could do quite often in the early days.

People are too set in their ways.
Which gets us no where.
Then other people have just given up, and dont really care.

Cant blame them cause illfonic doesn’t listen.

Even at high level it’s not balanced, ft still holds the advantage.
Like extreme advantage.

Again, I’m pretty sure no one here has seen what good balance actually looks like.

It just sucks.
I really wanted for this game to reach its potential.
If this game would have done that, reach its potential, this game would be extremely popular now.

Bugs and all the technical issues kill this game too.

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#28

I told you , I was eating popcorn , my controller was greasey.

Plus it wouldn’t even let me reload at times.

#29

Lmao I’m just giving you a hard time I honestly dont care, not a big deal.
We gotta try again tho.

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#30

I loaded into one lastnight and had to solo it , I got to level 20 without dying 👍🏻.

I haven’t really been playing . I had some games of pred lastnight with badblood . Getting the no parry bug , can’t ADS and can’t fire 😄 . Good Times

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#31

Sounds lovely lmao.

#32

Fkn bugs galore

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#33

Yup , there was even a kryptonian pig floating around like a deflating balloon 😄 .

Spear throws going through targets and not registering.

But the worst bug of all , random team mates not shooting the pred when you are parrying him

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#34

I keep getting the audio bug nonstop nearly every match now as pred or FT. At this point they’ll have to put up a few signs around the jungle saying watch out, deaf pred/FT area just for me.

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#35

I think you should balance around the highest skill level. Because if you don’t, stuff gets made too strong. The good players become god like with op shit

#36

You have to balance the game itself, not around any skill level.

Then if something pops out or sticks out as an issue, you fix it.

Cause for example.
One of the main issues this game suffered from.

The damage of the ft is fine for a 1v1.
But when you multiply the damage,
By 2 ft, 3ft, 4ft, it becomes beyond fucking broken.

I mean it’s pretty much common sense this is bad balance. Its extremely Unfair for the pred.

It wouldnt be an issue tho, if pred was given more mechanics to help mitigate or avoid fatal damage.

Such as, grabs, throws, pushes, tosses, knock ups, knock downs, sweeps, disarm, being able to injure the ft, so they cant run, have trouble aiming, ect.

Basically, ways to be able to engage multiple ft at once, and to be able to chip away at the ft without his damage being negated by the ft healing.

If the pred can get reworked and put in a good state, then the ft can get the rework they need as well.

Cause of the ft side, they dont need much, however, some basic shit would make ft feel better and that would make them more fun to play.

Such as, dodging of some kind, stamina heavy tho so you cant dodge forever, maybe 2 good dodges then like a 3-5 second phase or stamina recovery.

Vaulting, which pred needs too btw.

Possibly Adding prone and crawling?

From there, once we get both sides to feel good and smooth, then illfonic can slowly start implementing New unique gear for both sides.

Maybe elemental Effects/ weapons,
Better traps for pred, more cool shit for both sides.

I know this post is in vain because sadly, illfonic Doesn’t listen, and not enough people actually Care.

But I honestly Believe the game needs a major rework.
Both sides are lack luster.

Its just right now, pred is in a shitty spot.

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#38

I mean yes but also no. I agree, like in a 1v1 the ft does a ton of damage already. So yeah then times 4 it’s bonkers. Which I’m fine with them delete him all together that’s how it should work. But the predator needs more ways to divide and conquer.

But also to my point of skill level, you 100% are supposed to balance around high level players. That’s like the absolute gold standard of balance.

If you have a weapon or item that’s really strong, but is really hard to use. So you say well it’s difficult to master. So this is fair and balanced. Then 4 really good players all use the weapon, and have mastered it. They will just fuck on you. You have to balance a game to make sure an item/weapon/perk won’t be completely busted in the hands of a good player.

Hence one of our common games, smite. Balances around what the pro players are doing. If they looked at basic stats and were like oh my gosh Bakasura is dominating these pubs! Nerf him! Lol like what.

Or, oh no. Isis is doing so awful in pubs. Buff her! Uhhhh WAT please no lol. You definitely need to balance around good players

#39

I think overall we’d both agree that the best fireteams show how blatantly OP field medic is

#40

Considering all the pro player play like little bitches and cheap as fuck, that’s definitely not the case.

All the pro players do, is wait for their ults, and Sanc and puri to be up, and then go in
But until then they all sit around scared as fuck not wanting to do shit.

Second, those pieces of shit only want to fight when they outnumber the enemy.
Bitch move, it shows no skill.
Dont get me wrong, a few ganks at good times is smart play.
But even your entirely plan only works off ganks like that?

Ya that’s pretty bitch made.

That’s the worse game you could used as an example.

Smite as soon as season 4 started went to absolute shit.

Now it’s all a fucking defense meta, and warriors and tanks are broken as fuck.

The pros ruined how good smite was.
It was balanced back in season 3.

The same exact thing happened in Paragon.
Epic listened to the wrong people, entered a defense meta, and it went to ABSOLUTE shit.

It was worse than smite.

And what happened?
A year later or a bit more than a year, the game shut down.

What about destiny?
Hand cannons got an unnecessary nerf,
Primary weapons lost elements, and a bunch of good weapons/ perks got removed.

So no man, while I do agree high level play should be observed, it’s not the only thing that should be watched.

Or else good games get ruined.

And honestly, no, a pred shouldn’t get melted simply because hes engaging a full team.
There should be a way with dodging and a few other mechanics, that if you have the skill, its viable.

People seem to think I mean one attack spam when I say that, but that ain’t the case.

I mean by doing combos, and chaining different actions.
Sweeps, throws, disarms, stuns, ect.

So a melee style can be viable.

#41

It just sucks that I’ve seen multiple games be in such a good state, then go to absolute shit cause the wrong people got heard.

Honestly, if smite stayed how it was in season 3,
I might of dove heavily into ranked mode, and brought some of my friends with me who were just as good as I was back then.

But when a game gets shitty balance, pretty fucking pointless.

Btw as far as smite shitty balance goes,
Put on one defense item and all of sudden crit becomes worthless.

It’s so fucking depressing cause I used to love crit/ life steal back when it was good and viable.

#42

It’s 1000% not a bad example. And you’re saying it’s bitch to play as a team and out maneuver the enemy team? Hmmm. K…. Lol that’s like half of what actually makes you good at smite, not just mechanical skill, but understand rotations. So definitely a fine example lol. But here. Even more reason I’m right. Take the best players. The absolute best predators. And make them use melee only. They will still lose. No matter how good they are. Cause melee is trash. If the best players can’t win with it, it needs a buff

#43

I’m not sure how much it’s changed in the last like 2 months or who you’re using but crit still smacked when I was playing lol

#44

My biggest glaring issue with smite is new gods are 9 times out of 10 just off the rails busted

#45

I don’t know if you played back in season 3.
While smite has never really been a game fully based of skill, at least in season 3 you would see some players actually use skill not not play like little bitches the entire match.

Youd have to have Played as much as I did back in season 3 to understand.

No, dick riding each other doesn’t show skill.
It shows you can only play like a scared little bitch.

Example, back in season 3, people werent As scared as they are now.
Take duo lane as the main example.

Now days, due lanes are terrified unless they have the complete Advantage.
It’s so fucking annoying
And god forbid you’re doing good on your lane, cause guess what?

Little bitches gonna call the jungler because they can’t handle you.
Back in season 3, the jungler focused mid and solo.

Duo was rarely touched.
Also, hardly anyone went to other lanes unless their counterpart was dead.

Support didn’t wander until you took at least the first tower.

People were actually interested Im combat, not just jumping people like pussies.

Sure, its one way to play, but holy fuck it’s such a cowardly way to play.

When you got time?

We should chill one day, party up and talk about smite.
Itd be a lot faster than typing all this up. Cause I vividly remember When all these games were good, as long as someone wants to discuss it with me, I’m completely Open to having a conversation or discussion About it.

The same goes for almost any topic lmao.

#46

That’s just when they’re fresh lmao.
After a lil while they get nerfed.