Is there a balance issue

#30

Damage is stupidly broken on both sides. Is way too much and becomes a game of luck.
Problem is, if you lower the damage, then FT can just finish the stupid mission in 3 minutes and exfil, so they win no matter what.

In public matches, if you are a decent player, you will more often win as Pred than as FT (if playing solo). Because the power of FT relies on their firepower, but most potatoes don’t even know how to press the fire button. Right now the game is not balanced for 1v1, so you will likely die to any decent pred in any 1v1 scenario where no one is helping you.

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#31

That’s insane, cheers for taking the time to write all that out. Seems I’m best sticking to the long range and keeping out of sight as much as possible.

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#32

That’s… how we’ve been forced to play for basically all of 2021. It was even worse when Fireteam has Specializations & Predators didn’t. Just gotta stack as much Ranged damage as you possibly can and get REALLY good with the Smart Disc & Plasma Caster.

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#33

I’m definitely a long range predator but feels like fireteam finish their tasks too quickly for me, so maybe need to try and pressure them harder.

#34

Ifonic mains FT, confirmed.

#35

Wots this

#36

Honestly that plasma caster is my favourite weapon, early game I barely used it at all. The pistol isn’t half bad, never gave that one a chance.

#37

Is that reduction per player or as a complete unit ?

#38

per player

#39

Can be both. Dante for example has 160 Base Health, the MOST ranged damage you can do is like 158 per hit with the Smart Disc but that requires Stalker or Analytic WITH Down Ranged. But he can equip Thick Skin to put his HP up to 185. And then also equip OWLF Trained to take 10% less damage from the Predator… BUT he also already takes 20% less damage from everything WHILST Sprinting. And if he’s within 20 metres of a Support, he gets another 20% defence buff. Which means he can resist 50% of every attack a Predator does whilst sprinting… OH and he has Field Medic.

Guess who is basically in “Banned” status amongst the Top 10%. Outright considered Pay To Win. He’s never been nerfed.

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#40

Well that explains a fucking lot cheers. Seems I better start making a good scout build as no point in getting close enough to melee ever.

#41

Balance issue?! In P:HG??? No for Christ sakes, of course not… where did that even come from?!

#42

If you wanna start winning

Scout Analytic with the Combistick & Smart Disc with Large Pouch, Medic (Or Down Range) & Impenetrable.

Or Cleo Stalker with the same weapons & Large Pouch, Medic (Or Down Range) & Adrenal Boost.

Elder works about as good as well, again basically same loadout as those two.

Hunter Tracker with Dithered Lens is also really strong but won’t have as good damage output but is the best at preventing Reinforcement & stops people from Hiding.

#43

I can definitely win as predator just think it feels like far more effort I’m putting into it than when I’m playing fireteam lol

#44

Will try those builds out though cheers

#45

Fireteam requires zero effort to be “good” at. It is basically brainless shooting. All you need is good aim & a decent loadout. Predator requires a LOT of time & effort to get actually good at. It is an uphill battle constantly. Which makes it even weirder that MOST players are braindead & suck at FT. They have so many easy win tactics & options handed to them. Sadly to get good at Predator, ya HAVE to play Fireteam. Well, enough that you know their Spawn Points, Missions & where their Supplies & Reinforcement Radios spawn.

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#46

To hunt the prey, I must become prey. Yeh sounds like a good plan, these night maps really fucked me up so should try and familiarise myself with them.

#47

One thing Ive noticed is that because FT can rush the mission and maps have become bigger, most preds no longer activate camp alarms. Even top tier players know how stupidly lethal retarded AI is. I don’t know why this trend stopped, i think AI now is not as actively going for camp alarms as they did before, but is definitely something that needs to come back, as by experience, i know for a fact when you have to fight hordes of AI it becomes increasingly difficult to fight the Pred at the same time.

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#48

Also Map Advantage is a thing.

Airstrip is the most favourable map for FT. Headquarters is the most favourable map for Predator. But generally you’re gonna have a harder time as Predator on maps such as Overgrowth, Excavation & Airstrip whilst maps like Derailed & Headquarters are easier for Predator than FT. Backwater just fucking sucks no matter what. Worst map in the game.

#49

Always hated backwater. Derailed and overgrowth were my favourites.