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#73

What do you mean He “Breaks”?.

I already told you Man!.

The FT’s Mission is to arrive, Accomplish the Mission and Leave All Alive!.

If we had a Mission under OWLF supervision, where a Squadron had to Kill a Predator, Wouldn’t it be something Better and Much More Challenging!?.

The cool thing about Hunt Mode is that you survive together with those who are playing with you!.

OK.

This I already understood!.

But it seems to me that Zeus speaks specifically to a Soldier.

True, so much so that the next DLC is a New Soldier for the FT, and apparently the next two DLCs are from New Predators.
I see the FT’s Favoritism.

I do not consider being Grounded.

At the very least, we could return as Different Soldiers.

But on a Mission with a Larger Team, if You Get Killed, stay in the Match to Guide Your Team!.

Help in some way!.

My Friend, You are not seeing it from the Right Point of View!.

If that were so, in an Army, We would not need to have Soldiers with other Functions!.

A good squad, they have several soldiers so that each one really contributes better to the completion of the mission!.

“But it’s just a game.”

And because it’s just a game, wouldn’t you like to have a more realistic experience?

I think a team needs to have soldiers with different specializations and classes to make the team stronger.

If You Don’t Agree, You don’t even have to continue this part of the Conversation.

Another Personalization Opportunity that Illfonic could put in the Game.
If it is a Codename for the Team, and Communication is Collective, we could have a Name Option for the Team.
Now, calling the Whole Team “Voodoo-1” is Ridiculous !.

That is why I am saying that the Team must have Soldiers of Different Classes !.

#74

No

Because then the Predator can play peak a boo and keep out of the FT’s tech until timer.

The game itself from a design perspective breaks.

The kill Predator win condition

And the complete OBJ win condition

Rely on each other for game design. They support each other.

But he’s not.

DLC quantity doesn’t dictate balance.

The different soldiers issue has its own problem.

But what about no reinforcements?

A. This assumes you have a mic

B. This assumes your team is a bunch of idiots who can’t navigate a map.

How?

Thai isn’t an army

It’s a video game

Having variety isn’t inherently good.

This also assumes the team is a bunch of specialists.

No.

Not at the cost of gameplay.

I thought he point of conversations was to change our minds?

No it’s not.

I’m saying 4 stacks of the same class should be viable…

Not the only thing viable but still viable non the less so I think we’re on different pages.

#75

Eshtion, Everything has a Limit.

So far You have not convinced me and I not convincing You.

So I suggested that in this part of the Conversation, if You still don’t agree, You don’t need to answer.

Eshte, Think of a Mode similar to the Movie Predators (2010).

A Forest just like the one in the film. No presence of Humans, Camps or Bases.
Only the Forest.

Where OWLF coordinates the Mission to Kill a Predator that has been Found.

Or a trio, or a pair of predators.

Where does that Break the Game?.
This is a Real Hunting Challenge!

For both Soldiers and Predators!.

It is a Simple Goal!.
What the hell!. Don’t You Understand This?.

In Current Mode, for Soldiers, This is not a Hunt.
It’s more of a Simple Mission.

For the Predator, it’s a Hunt.
But for Soldiers, it is not a Hunt!.

I Said “It looks”!.

I’m not talking about Balance.
You who spoke of Favoritism for the Soldiers of the FT.
But I believe that no one who plays PHG would prefer to play as a soldier than to play as a Predator.
Of course, there may be Players Who Like the Challenge of Confronting a Predator.
But I bet it’s a Minority.

I just think that the Team could not have more Reinforcements if we had a Larger Team.
Composed of at least 7 Soldiers.

Yes, I have a microphone. And what does that presuppose?.

I see that in the Matches, there are Really Idiots in the Match.
But not because they don’t know how to move on the Map.
They are just not focused on accomplishing the mission and helping the Team.

“How?”
Communicating with the Team!.
But it Sucks that you have to teach people to Play!.
Even more so when You Don’t Know Who’s Playing!.
There are people who don’t take criticism well, or who get your attention when you’re Playing.

I wish they were.

I think it is!.
I would like a different name for the team.
Or specific names for soldiers.
I think this would provide more variety and facilitate communication between the team.

But if you don’t agree, OK.

Just don’t ask me to explain, because I already talked about it in the other Comments.

Like I said.

We disagree.

But to solve this case, Illfonic would only have to do something by placing an option of equal classes and different classes.

In quick matches, I think it should be mandatory, to play with different classes.

But in Private Matches, where we play with our friends, people we know, then we could choose this option for everyone to play with the same class.

#76

You could also not answer.

You decide your limit I decide my limit.

Because with the Predators advanced mobility you can just keep out of the FT’s range.

Seriously run Scout, adrenal, long jump, impenetrable/, and you can literally out pace the FT for the entire match.

Your giving the entire pacing and control of the match to the predator.

And I’m just confirming for you it’s not.

Bruh you wanted to remove pigs in your game mode

I said the game is FT sided enough

Then you say your not talking about balance?

It’s my point not yours so yes it is about balance.

Alright…

So let me leave when I die since I’ll be no good.

This assumes EVERYONE has a microphone.

Thanks for proving my point.

Communicate what exactly.

Absolutely not.

Restriction of player choice and complications that’d require a complete rework to matchmaking.

#77

What did I not know how to answer ?.

But with a larger team, focused solely on killing the predator, how does Match control become unique to the predator?

Predator’s only goal is to kill the team.

The difference is that, in this mode that I am suggesting, we would not have AI to interrupt and we would not have to worry about doing a side mission.

The mission would be to exclusively Kill the Predator.

OK.

But it is precisely to balance things that I made the suggestion to remove the Pigs.

The team is already bigger.
With 7 people.

But, as we have no bases or camps, we would not have ammunition, healing kits and how to call reinforcements on the map.

We would have to rely on fundraising by the team.

But for the Predator Not having so many Advantages, the Pigs, which are one of their Healing Modes, they would be removed.

Now I’m talking about Balance.

That’s why I’ve already suggested a Solo Mode as well.
You want to play, and if you are Killed, you want to leave the game.
To do this, I ask you: What is the reason for being in a team ?.
It is advantageous when you are alive, isn’t it ?. But after You’ve been Killed, You don’t even want to see if the Team has managed to complete the Mission.
I think this is a very Selfish attitude.

I already told you !.

That means nothing !.

There are people who do not receive good reviews.
They see Criticism as an Insult. And they are disrespectful.

I don’t want to be using my Microphone to ask People to Play the Game the Right Way.
It is a matter of pure common sense.

You are playing a team game.
So Work for the Team !.

I proved that the Question is related to People’s Attitude.
Not that they don’t know how to play.

If You stay on the Mission, You will see that you can inform the Danger Situations Team by Example.
The time is ending;
AI soldiers are approaching;
The Predator is Close;
The helicopter is arriving.

But this is Illfonic Work !.

Apply Improvements to the Game.

And say that this is a Rework ?.

Come on Man !.
It’s just a matter of configuration.

#78

I said you can also stop response yourself and dictate your own limit of conversations.

Predator can outrun all the FT.

Even if you spread out either can’t cover enough ground or you divide and make yourself easy prey.

With all the time In the world.

Even with a timer you still have trolls and people who’d rather tie than lose.

Like I said the kill Pred condition and the OBJ condition rely on each other.

7 people with Assault/support running med bags and ammo pouches.

Against the Pred who at most has 4 srynges in a game where anything the Pred does can be punished.

WHY SHOULD I STICK AROUND

WHY

EHY SHOULD I STICK AROUND WATCHING OTHER PEOPLE PLAY

AND HOW IS IT SELFISH

I CAN’T DO ANY GOOD DEAD

IT DOESN’T RUIN TEAMWORK

I LITERALLY DO NOTHING

My point still stands if you die without a mic your no good to the team let them leave.

This game doesn’t even have ranked it may be team based but it’s casual.

Let’s just ignore Zues calling out the chopper and time and ignore the fact that the FT have their own ears and eyes they can use.

I said it would require a rework to the matchmaking system.

It’s not an improvement. It limits player choice.

#79

I swear to God the two of you have spent more time quoting and responding to each other than my viagra lasts Jesus Christ.

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#80

10 minutes ain’t impressive mr viagra.

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#81

Fak you

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#82

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#83

Isn’t there a warning telling you to call a doctor?

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#84

Eshtion, Summing up our Debate.

The central point of this post, is that I have found Players who are not playing as a Team, a Game that is to be played as a Team!.

I think that the question of not letting the player leave the game when the Mission has not yet been completed, or the entire team has not yet been shot down, is something that should be brought to a general discussion.

I think this is something that values ​​the team.
While I’m alive, I help my team.
I try to keep them all alive. Because I know that in this game, one less soldier makes a lot of difference.

After I was shot down, I wait to see if they managed to complete the mission or if they managed to take down the Predator.

I think you don’t give a damn about it.

But, each one with its Opinion.

I think that everything that is added can be seen as an improvement.

Some Name Options for Teams;

Specific Names for Soldiers;

For those who like customizations, it would already be a differentiator.

Now, if for You, this is Indifferent, why are You Criticizing and Debating about it ?.

Continue with your Team being called “Voodoo-1” and continue Playing with a Nameless Soldier.

The Soldier Class Question, I also think it should be a Point for General Discussion.

I think a team is better equipped with different types of soldiers.

For you, it doesn’t matter if they are all the same, or all different, right ?.

As I said, I think this should only be put on Quick Matches.

But in Private Matches, I see no problem at all.

And lastly, if you are not satisfied with this game mode that I am suggesting, think that there may have been other people who liked the idea.

If you didn’t like it, don’t play.
For example, I think Clash Mode is totally bad. And I don’t play.

And in hunting mode, for the FT, in my opinion, it is not a hunt.
It is just a mission.

So I suggested a way in which the goal is to hunt predators.

If we have some players who are cowards playing as predators, and they prefer to hide, and don’t face FT, then it is better that they don’t even play as predators. They need to play only as soldiers.

But, I think that in a Game Mode where the team cannot call reinforcements, and they don’t have ammo kits or healing kits lying around, the Predator wouldn’t be stuck in the trees waiting to be found.

It would be a Game Mode, where we could have something similar to what we saw in the Game Launch Trailer.

In the same Trailer, we see 2 Helicopters, showing the Team could be bigger. I’ll even make a Post about it.

#85

Actauly I do care. But I understand that there are people who don’t care.

And I’m not going to advocate for locking people in.

My problem is that your saying the current system is flawed because not naming Dutch’s team Dutch is bad. It’s not the extra customization it’s the flawed reasoning.

But it physically isn’t.

And that’s an issue.

That doesn’t mean it’s not flawed.

Keep in mind they’d have to make this mode which would affect que times and take away from devolopment time.

Trolls and vindictive people.

#86

Okay.

I see it as a Personalization and a Way to Improve Communication with the Team.

I don’t think it’s cool for the entire team to be called “Voodoo-1”.
Teams could have different codenames.

They could use the Letters of the Greek Alphabet for example.
Sounds much better than “Voodoo-1”.

  • Alpha team;
  • Beta team;
  • Gamma team;
  • Delta team;
  • Kappa team;
  • Omega team;
  • Team Zeta.

But if you don’t agree; Or you prefer “Voodoo-1” for the Team and don’t want give a name for your Soldier, it’s Okay.

Eshtion, I don’t see it just by the Physical aspect !.

I see it from a General Aspect !.

We have four Classes of Soldiers !.
Two Classes are practically identical. We can say that there are three. Reconnaissance and Scout Soldiers, are very similar.

Scout soldiers have qualities that support and attack soldiers do not have.

Attack Soldiers, are more balanced than Support Soldiers and Scouts.

And Support Soldiers have Advantages that Attack Soldiers and Scouts do not.

I don’t see any quality in having soldiers of the same class in a squad !.

But if YOU find it Advantageous, the Opinion is yours !.
I will formulate a survey on the subject.
Only we debating this, It won’t get us anywhere.

And I don’t see it as a problem, because in Private Matches, we have to make Settings to Make the Match more Fun.

Now, in Quick Matches, if the Gameplay is a little Limited, but aiming at something more balanced, where is the Problem ?.

But Eshtion, if you keep looking for flaws in the game modes that people are suggesting, you won’t let the game evolve man !.

For YOU, the Mode has Flaws. But for me haven’t flaws !.

As I said, if YOU didn’t like the idea, don’t play this Mode !.

In Over One Year of Game Launch, We Only Have Two Game Modes Currently !.

Two Modes that Up to now have not received Improvements !.

So, if Illfonic doesn’t want to make these Changes, Create New Modes !.
But as we are asking !.

Clash Mode is a mess.

I didn’t understand until today the Purpose of this Mode.

And the Hunt Mode, for FT Soldiers, is not a Hunt !.

It is only a Hunt, when You Play with the Predator.

Clash Mode would be much more interesting if we had 2 teams, one against the other, but that the soldiers could not be brought back to the match.
And we could have Bigger Teams; With More Soldiers.
And the objective would be to accomplish the mission as it normally is, but we would have to face another team at the same time.
And we could have a pair of predators.
That would be a Clash !.

And in Hunt Mode, for the Team to Really Hunt Predators, a Mode as I have suggested, would be Perfect !.

But you are wanting to find faults, where there are no faults !.

#87

I mean, bad teammates is a problem in any video game.

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#88

That’s fine but it’s not a problem that we don’t have it.

Alpha, beta, charlie, delta. Everyone already has one.

Subjective statement.

They literally use that for the individual team members

Yes.

The problem is you saying it’s dumb.

Stacking bonus’s

It’s not an opinion. It’s a fact.

So force everyone to play privates?

Because the gameplay can be balanced without limiting choice.

Ideas can evolve too.

That’s the entire idea of rough drafts.

This goes beyond opinion and goes into objective fact.

And waste the devs time just so you can play hunt but slightly different.

You mean the hunt mode is based on the hunter?

It is a Predator hunt hunting the FT just like in the first movie.

That’s an entirely different mode.

Prove me wrong then.

#89

I think it’s a Problem !.
Something that can improve. And a Simple Customization can Correct this Problem.

Accept this!.

No!. This is a means that the Illfonic has put in the game to assign the rank of soldier in the planning of the mission.
I don’t know what are the criteria used to make this Selection.
A, B, C and D.
Do not confuse things and do not make a fool of yourself.
You understood very well what I meant when I spoke of Alpha, Beta, Delta.

It is Obvious that it is Subjective !.
But there may be more players who think like me.
I saw that You Think Different.
But it’s alright!.
I already said, if you want your team to be “Voodoo-1” and you don’t want your soldiers to have proper names, that’s fine !.
But I wish we had that in the Game.

Is it clear to you ?.

I’m Sorry, but it’s my Opinion!.

Why don’t you go Stack up what you want to Stack up with your friends in Private Games?.

Only in your head is that a Fact.

Man, in Private Matches we can configurate the match before playing !.

In the Private Match, Players can Play with the Classes they want, however they want.

But I think that in Quick Matches, we should have a Team made up of Different Soldiers !.

That’s only it!.

OK. We diverged again.
I didn’t convince you. And You Didn’t Convince Me.

But that’s exactly what I told you before !.

The Mode has not received Improvements !.

We either suggested a New Mode, or asked for Improvements.

For the time that the game has been released, I think the best thing to do is to suggest a new mode.

It really is similar to what already exists in the Game. But it is still a New Game Mode !.

Eshtion, I already told you !.

For the FT it is not a Hunt !.

For Predator, yes. It is very similar to what happens in the film.

But for FT, it is not a Hunt !.

How is this different ?.

Only if we don’t Agree on the definition of a Clash Mode as well.

I think that the Current Model, is not even close to being a Real Clash.

I’m almost drawing to show you !.

But I wonder, or am I the one who has to prove it to you, or are you the one who doesn’t want to bother and admit that there are things I said that make sense and could be accepted?

I saw that you do not agree with many things that I put.

But you don’t seem to understand that there are people who also like my ideas.

But you insist on continuing to argue!.

The topic is already with almost 90 Posts.

What else do you want to continue debating ?.

#90

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#91

How is a team being called Voodoo a problem?

The rank? It’s a way to differentiate soldiers.

Ya, the same things the soldiers are assigned with.

If you look at the bottom left your assigned a name.

The problem isn’t the customization.

The problem is your stating the current system is a problem.

My response may or may not of translated over well.

Because now I can’t play public.

You can objectify certain things.

Especially balance

So improve it.

Hunting the Predator is intended as a stratagy.

And yes it’s a win condition.

It’s literally PVPVPVE hunt mode.

Not at all clash.

And no it wasn’t by name. It’s by mechanical similarity.

My point was don’t make broad statements about being right.

Prove that your right.

You want to replace clash with something not even remotely similar, rather than a new mode, think the Zues called Dutch Voodoo, and think taking away OBJ’s from hunt is a new game mode.

I can’t agree with any of this.

Ok…

You know your limit. There’s no shame in leaving a conversation early.

#92

Eshtion, how old are you?

Serious.

I’m getting worried that I might be arguing with a child.

In that case, I will simply stop responding because I will be playing the fool.

It is simply a matter of taste.

Subject Closed here.

There is no counter-argument.

It is not enough for me.

I think the system can improve.

And I won’t tell you how I think this improvement can be made, because we disagree with everything, I’ll just waste my time explaining and being verbose.

Question of Opinion.

There is also no possibility of counter-arguing.

This is neither my problem nor anyone else’s.
It is totally yours.

In another Post I will point out my ideas about Balance.

For now, another closed topic.

Once again without counter arguments.

Do you think I am part of the Illfonic Game Development Team ?.

(It was a rhetorical question).

I think we can close one more topic, because in addition to your comment being ridiculous, this answer makes it impossible once again for a counter-argument.

Victory Condition and a Hunt, for Me are Totally Different Things.

Another Question of Opinion.

Once again, No Counter Argument.

For me, this mode would be great for the game

No flaws.

And I think it’s a perfect match.

Question of opinion again.

Again, without counter-arguments.

OK. I can accept that.

I think that Now I Tasted Everything and a Little More.

That’s True. I know Mine Limits.

But I am absolutely sure that you do not know your limits.

I can’t disagree.

But I think it is an even greater Shame, to insist on a debate where you see that no matter how much you try to show your point of view, the other person already has a formed opinion about the situation and you are irritatingly forcing the person to respond.

This is a Child’s Attitude.

I will be Mature and Educated, for despite what You will Respond, because your Level of Immaturity will force you to Answer anything, just to be the Last to Speak, I will not Respond. I will do you a favor to the Members of this Forum and End this Ridiculous Debate, because like You, even I am Playing the Idiot.