It's HARD to find Good Members for FT!.

[Eshtion]

@TheKingofPredators

What did I not know how to answer ?.

I said you can also stop response yourself and dictate your own limit of conversations.

@TheKingofPredators

how does Match control become unique to the predator?

Predator can outrun all the FT.

Even if you spread out either can’t cover enough ground or you divide and make yourself easy prey.

@TheKingofPredators

Predator’s only goal is to kill the team.

With all the time In the world.

Even with a timer you still have trolls and people who’d rather tie than lose.

@TheKingofPredators

The mission would be to exclusively Kill the Predator.

Like I said the kill Pred condition and the OBJ condition rely on each other.

@TheKingofPredators

But, as we have no bases or camps, we would not have ammunition, healing kits and how to call reinforcements on the map.

7 people with Assault/support running med bags and ammo pouches.

Against the Pred who at most has 4 srynges in a game where anything the Pred does can be punished.

@TheKingofPredators

You don’t even want to see if the Team has managed to complete the Mission.
I think this is a very Selfish attitude.

WHY SHOULD I STICK AROUND

WHY

EHY SHOULD I STICK AROUND WATCHING OTHER PEOPLE PLAY

AND HOW IS IT SELFISH

I CAN’T DO ANY GOOD DEAD

IT DOESN’T RUIN TEAMWORK

I LITERALLY DO NOTHING

@TheKingofPredators

You are playing a team game.
So Work for the Team !.

My point still stands if you die without a mic your no good to the team let them leave.

This game doesn’t even have ranked it may be team based but it’s casual.

@TheKingofPredators

The time is ending;
AI soldiers are approaching;
The Predator is Close;
The helicopter is arriving.

Let’s just ignore Zues calling out the chopper and time and ignore the fact that the FT have their own ears and eyes they can use.

@TheKingofPredators

And say that this is a Rework ?.

I said it would require a rework to the matchmaking system.

@TheKingofPredators

Apply Improvements to the Game.

It’s not an improvement. It limits player choice.

[Cadillackid]

I swear to God the two of you have spent more time quoting and responding to each other than my viagra lasts Jesus Christ.

[Fire]

10 minutes ain’t impressive mr viagra.

[Cadillackid]

Fak you

[Fire]

[Eshtion]

@Cadillackid

and responding to each other than my viagra lasts Jesus Christ.

Isn’t there a warning telling you to call a doctor?

[TheKingofPredators]

Eshtion, Summing up our Debate.

The central point of this post, is that I have found Players who are not playing as a Team, a Game that is to be played as a Team!.

I think that the question of not letting the player leave the game when the Mission has not yet been completed, or the entire team has not yet been shot down, is something that should be brought to a general discussion.

I think this is something that values ​​the team.
While I’m alive, I help my team.
I try to keep them all alive. Because I know that in this game, one less soldier makes a lot of difference.

After I was shot down, I wait to see if they managed to complete the mission or if they managed to take down the Predator.

I think you don’t give a damn about it.

But, each one with its Opinion.

I think that everything that is added can be seen as an improvement.

Some Name Options for Teams;

Specific Names for Soldiers;

For those who like customizations, it would already be a differentiator.

Now, if for You, this is Indifferent, why are You Criticizing and Debating about it ?.

Continue with your Team being called “Voodoo-1” and continue Playing with a Nameless Soldier.

The Soldier Class Question, I also think it should be a Point for General Discussion.

I think a team is better equipped with different types of soldiers.

For you, it doesn’t matter if they are all the same, or all different, right ?.

As I said, I think this should only be put on Quick Matches.

But in Private Matches, I see no problem at all.

And lastly, if you are not satisfied with this game mode that I am suggesting, think that there may have been other people who liked the idea.

If you didn’t like it, don’t play.
For example, I think Clash Mode is totally bad. And I don’t play.

And in hunting mode, for the FT, in my opinion, it is not a hunt.
It is just a mission.

So I suggested a way in which the goal is to hunt predators.

If we have some players who are cowards playing as predators, and they prefer to hide, and don’t face FT, then it is better that they don’t even play as predators. They need to play only as soldiers.

But, I think that in a Game Mode where the team cannot call reinforcements, and they don’t have ammo kits or healing kits lying around, the Predator wouldn’t be stuck in the trees waiting to be found.

It would be a Game Mode, where we could have something similar to what we saw in the Game Launch Trailer.

In the same Trailer, we see 2 Helicopters, showing the Team could be bigger. I’ll even make a Post about it.

[Eshtion]

@TheKingofPredators

After I was shot down, I wait to see if they managed to complete the mission or if they managed to take down the Predator.

I think you don’t give a damn about it.

Actauly I do care. But I understand that there are people who don’t care.

And I’m not going to advocate for locking people in.

@TheKingofPredators

Now, if for You, this is Indifferent, why are You Criticizing and Debating about it ?.

My problem is that your saying the current system is flawed because not naming Dutch’s team Dutch is bad. It’s not the extra customization it’s the flawed reasoning.

@TheKingofPredators

I think a team is better equipped with different types of soldiers.

But it physically isn’t.

@TheKingofPredators

As I said, I think this should only be put on Quick Matches.

And that’s an issue.

@TheKingofPredators

And lastly, if you are not satisfied with this game mode that I am suggesting, think that there may have been other people who liked the idea.

That doesn’t mean it’s not flawed.

Keep in mind they’d have to make this mode which would affect que times and take away from devolopment time.

@TheKingofPredators

and don’t face FT, then it is better that they don’t even play as predators. They need to play only as soldiers.

Trolls and vindictive people.

[TheKingofPredators]

@Eshtion

Na verdade, eu me importo. Mas eu entendo que tem gente que não liga.

E não vou defender o bloqueio das pessoas.

Okay.

@Eshtion

Meu problema é que você está dizendo que o sistema atual é falho porque não nomear o time de Dutch é ruim. Não é a personalização extra, é o raciocínio falho.

I see it as a Personalization and a Way to Improve Communication with the Team.

I don’t think it’s cool for the entire team to be called “Voodoo-1”.
Teams could have different codenames.

They could use the Letters of the Greek Alphabet for example.
Sounds much better than “Voodoo-1”.

• Alpha team;
• Beta team;
• Gamma team;
• Delta team;
• Kappa team;
• Omega team;
• Team Zeta.

But if you don’t agree; Or you prefer “Voodoo-1” for the Team and don’t want give a name for your Soldier, it’s Okay.

@Eshtion

Mas fisicamente não é.

@Eshtion

E isso é um problema.

Eshtion, I don’t see it just by the Physical aspect !.

I see it from a General Aspect !.

We have four Classes of Soldiers !.
Two Classes are practically identical. We can say that there are three. Reconnaissance and Scout Soldiers, are very similar.

Scout soldiers have qualities that support and attack soldiers do not have.

Attack Soldiers, are more balanced than Support Soldiers and Scouts.

And Support Soldiers have Advantages that Attack Soldiers and Scouts do not.

I don’t see any quality in having soldiers of the same class in a squad !.

But if YOU find it Advantageous, the Opinion is yours !.
I will formulate a survey on the subject.
Only we debating this, It won’t get us anywhere.

And I don’t see it as a problem, because in Private Matches, we have to make Settings to Make the Match more Fun.

Now, in Quick Matches, if the Gameplay is a little Limited, but aiming at something more balanced, where is the Problem ?.

@Eshtion

Isso não significa que não tenha falhas.

Tenha em mente que eles teriam que fazer este modo que afetaria esses tempos e tiraria o tempo de desenvolvimento.

But Eshtion, if you keep looking for flaws in the game modes that people are suggesting, you won’t let the game evolve man !.

For YOU, the Mode has Flaws. But for me haven’t flaws !.

As I said, if YOU didn’t like the idea, don’t play this Mode !.

In Over One Year of Game Launch, We Only Have Two Game Modes Currently !.

Two Modes that Up to now have not received Improvements !.

So, if Illfonic doesn’t want to make these Changes, Create New Modes !.
But as we are asking !.

Clash Mode is a mess.

I didn’t understand until today the Purpose of this Mode.

And the Hunt Mode, for FT Soldiers, is not a Hunt !.

It is only a Hunt, when You Play with the Predator.

Clash Mode would be much more interesting if we had 2 teams, one against the other, but that the soldiers could not be brought back to the match.
And we could have Bigger Teams; With More Soldiers.
And the objective would be to accomplish the mission as it normally is, but we would have to face another team at the same time.
And we could have a pair of predators.
That would be a Clash !.

And in Hunt Mode, for the Team to Really Hunt Predators, a Mode as I have suggested, would be Perfect !.

But you are wanting to find faults, where there are no faults !.

[Jaya_Soames]

I mean, bad teammates is a problem in any video game.

[Eshtion]

@TheKingofPredators

I see it as a Personalization

That’s fine but it’s not a problem that we don’t have it.

@TheKingofPredators

and a Way to Improve Communication with the Team.

Alpha, beta, charlie, delta. Everyone already has one.

@TheKingofPredators

I don’t think it’s cool for the entire team to be called “Voodoo-1

Subjective statement.

@TheKingofPredators

They could use the Letters of the Greek Alphabet for example.

They literally use that for the individual team members

@TheKingofPredators

Or you prefer “Voodoo-1” for the Team and don’t want give a name for your Soldier, it’s Okay.

Yes.

The problem is you saying it’s dumb.

@TheKingofPredators

I don’t see any quality in having soldiers of the same class in a squad !.

Stacking bonus’s

@TheKingofPredators

But if YOU find it Advantageous, the Opinion is yours !.

It’s not an opinion. It’s a fact.

@TheKingofPredators

And I don’t see it as a problem, because in Private Matches, we have to make Settings to Make the Match more Fun.

So force everyone to play privates?

@TheKingofPredators

Now, in Quick Matches, if the Gameplay is a little Limited, but aiming at something more balanced, where is the Problem ?.

Because the gameplay can be balanced without limiting choice.

@TheKingofPredators

But Eshtion, if you keep looking for flaws in the game modes that people are suggesting, you won’t let the game evolve man !.

Ideas can evolve too.

That’s the entire idea of rough drafts.

@TheKingofPredators

For YOU, the Mode has Flaws. But for me haven’t flaws !.

This goes beyond opinion and goes into objective fact.

@TheKingofPredators

As I said, if YOU didn’t like the idea, don’t play this Mode !.

And waste the devs time just so you can play hunt but slightly different.

@TheKingofPredators

It is only a Hunt, when You Play with the Predator.

You mean the hunt mode is based on the hunter?

It is a Predator hunt hunting the FT just like in the first movie.

@TheKingofPredators

Clash Mode would be much more interesting if we had 2 teams, one against the other, but that the soldiers could not be brought back to the match.
And we could have Bigger Teams; With More Soldiers.
And the objective would be to accomplish the mission as it normally is, but we would have to face another team at the same time.
And we could have a pair of predators.
That would be a Clash !.

That’s an entirely different mode.

@TheKingofPredators

But you are wanting to find faults, where there are no faults !.

Prove me wrong then.

[TheKingofPredators]

@Eshtion

Tudo bem, mas não é um problema que não tenhamos.

I think it’s a Problem !.
Something that can improve. And a Simple Customization can Correct this Problem.

Accept this!.

@Eshtion

Alpha, beta, charlie, delta. Todo mundo já tem um.

@Eshtion

Eles literalmente usam isso para os membros individuais da equipe

No!. This is a means that the Illfonic has put in the game to assign the rank of soldier in the planning of the mission.
I don’t know what are the criteria used to make this Selection.
A, B, C and D.
Do not confuse things and do not make a fool of yourself.
You understood very well what I meant when I spoke of Alpha, Beta, Delta.

@Eshtion

Declaração subjetiva.

It is Obvious that it is Subjective !.
But there may be more players who think like me.
I saw that You Think Different.
But it’s alright!.
I already said, if you want your team to be “Voodoo-1” and you don’t want your soldiers to have proper names, that’s fine !.
But I wish we had that in the Game.

Is it clear to you ?.

@Eshtion

sim.

O problema é que você está dizendo que é idiota.

I’m Sorry, but it’s my Opinion!.

@Eshtion

Bônus de empilhamento

Why don’t you go Stack up what you want to Stack up with your friends in Private Games?.

@Eshtion

Não é uma opinião. É um fato.

Only in your head is that a Fact.

@Eshtion

Forçar todos a jogarem privates?

Man, in Private Matches we can configurate the match before playing !.

In the Private Match, Players can Play with the Classes they want, however they want.

But I think that in Quick Matches, we should have a Team made up of Different Soldiers !.

That’s only it!.

@Eshtion

Porque a jogabilidade pode ser equilibrada sem limitar a escolha.

OK. We diverged again.
I didn’t convince you. And You Didn’t Convince Me.

@Eshtion

As ideias também podem evoluir.

Essa é toda a ideia dos rascunhos.

@Eshtion

Isso vai além da opinião e chega ao fato objetivo.

@Eshtion

E desperdice o tempo dos desenvolvedores apenas para poder brincar de caça, mas um pouco diferente.

But that’s exactly what I told you before !.

The Mode has not received Improvements !.

We either suggested a New Mode, or asked for Improvements.

For the time that the game has been released, I think the best thing to do is to suggest a new mode.

It really is similar to what already exists in the Game. But it is still a New Game Mode !.

@Eshtion

Quer dizer que o modo de caça é baseado no caçador?

É uma caça ao Predator caçando o FT assim como no primeiro filme.

Eshtion, I already told you !.

For the FT it is not a Hunt !.

For Predator, yes. It is very similar to what happens in the film.

But for FT, it is not a Hunt !.

@Eshtion

Esse é um modo totalmente diferente.

How is this different ?.

Only if we don’t Agree on the definition of a Clash Mode as well.

I think that the Current Model, is not even close to being a Real Clash.

@Eshtion

Prove que estou errado então.

I’m almost drawing to show you !.

But I wonder, or am I the one who has to prove it to you, or are you the one who doesn’t want to bother and admit that there are things I said that make sense and could be accepted?

I saw that you do not agree with many things that I put.

But you don’t seem to understand that there are people who also like my ideas.

But you insist on continuing to argue!.

The topic is already with almost 90 Posts.

What else do you want to continue debating ?.

[BeerWarrior66]

[Eshtion]

@TheKingofPredators

Something that can improve. And a Simple Customization can Correct this Problem.

Accept this!.

How is a team being called Voodoo a problem?

@TheKingofPredators

This is a means that the Illfonic has put in the game to assign the rank of soldier

The rank? It’s a way to differentiate soldiers.

@TheKingofPredators

You understood very well what I meant when I spoke of Alpha, Beta, Delta.

Ya, the same things the soldiers are assigned with.

If you look at the bottom left your assigned a name.

@TheKingofPredators

But I wish we had that in the Game.

Is it clear to you ?.

The problem isn’t the customization.

The problem is your stating the current system is a problem.

@TheKingofPredators

I’m Sorry, but it’s my Opinion!.

My response may or may not of translated over well.

@TheKingofPredators

Why don’t you go Stack up what you want to Stack up with your friends in Private Games?.

Because now I can’t play public.

@TheKingofPredators

Only in your head is that a Fact.

You can objectify certain things.

Especially balance

@TheKingofPredators

The Mode has not received Improvements

So improve it.

@TheKingofPredators

For the FT it is not a Hunt !.

Hunting the Predator is intended as a stratagy.

And yes it’s a win condition.

@TheKingofPredators

How is this different ?.

It’s literally PVPVPVE hunt mode.

Not at all clash.

And no it wasn’t by name. It’s by mechanical similarity.

@TheKingofPredators

or am I the one who has to prove it to you

My point was don’t make broad statements about being right.

Prove that your right.

@TheKingofPredators

or are you the one who doesn’t want to bother and admit that there are things I said that make sense and could be accepted?

You want to replace clash with something not even remotely similar, rather than a new mode, think the Zues called Dutch Voodoo, and think taking away OBJ’s from hunt is a new game mode.

I can’t agree with any of this.

@TheKingofPredators

But you don’t seem to understand that there are people who also like my ideas.

Ok…

@TheKingofPredators

But you insist on continuing to argue!.

The topic is already with almost 90 Posts.

What else do you want to continue debating ?.

You know your limit. There’s no shame in leaving a conversation early.

[TheKingofPredators]

Eshtion, how old are you?

Serious.

I’m getting worried that I might be arguing with a child.

In that case, I will simply stop responding because I will be playing the fool.

@Eshtion

Como uma equipe chamada de Voodoo é um problema?

It is simply a matter of taste.

Subject Closed here.

There is no counter-argument.

@Eshtion

A classificação? É uma forma de diferenciar os soldados.

@Eshtion

Sim, as mesmas coisas que os soldados são atribuídos.

Se você olhar no canto inferior esquerdo, seu nome foi atribuído.

@Eshtion

O problema não é a personalização.

O problema é que você está afirmando que o sistema atual é um problema.

It is not enough for me.

I think the system can improve.

And I won’t tell you how I think this improvement can be made, because we disagree with everything, I’ll just waste my time explaining and being verbose.

Question of Opinion.

There is also no possibility of counter-arguing.

@Eshtion

Porque agora não posso jogar em público.

This is neither my problem nor anyone else’s.
It is totally yours.

@Eshtion

Você pode objetivar certas coisas.

Especialmente equilíbrio

In another Post I will point out my ideas about Balance.

For now, another closed topic.

Once again without counter arguments.

@Eshtion

Portanto, melhore.

Do you think I am part of the Illfonic Game Development Team ?.

(It was a rhetorical question).

I think we can close one more topic, because in addition to your comment being ridiculous, this answer makes it impossible once again for a counter-argument.

@Eshtion

A caça ao Predador pretende ser uma estratégia.

E sim, é uma condição de vitória.

Victory Condition and a Hunt, for Me are Totally Different Things.

Another Question of Opinion.

Once again, No Counter Argument.

@Eshtion

É literalmente o modo de busca PVPVPVE.

Nem um pouco confronto.

E não, não era pelo nome. É por semelhança mecânica.

@Eshtion

Você deseja substituir o confronto por algo nem remotamente semelhante, em vez de um novo modo, pense nos Zues chamados de Voodoo Holandês e pense que tirar OBJs da caça é um novo modo de jogo.

For me, this mode would be great for the game

No flaws.

And I think it’s a perfect match.

Question of opinion again.

Again, without counter-arguments.

@Eshtion

Eu não posso concordar com nada disso.

OK. I can accept that.

@Eshtion

Prove que você está certo.

I think that Now I Tasted Everything and a Little More.

@Eshtion

Você conhece o seu limite.

That’s True. I know Mine Limits.

But I am absolutely sure that you do not know your limits.

@Eshtion

Não há vergonha em deixar uma conversa mais cedo.

I can’t disagree.

But I think it is an even greater Shame, to insist on a debate where you see that no matter how much you try to show your point of view, the other person already has a formed opinion about the situation and you are irritatingly forcing the person to respond.

This is a Child’s Attitude.

I will be Mature and Educated, for despite what You will Respond, because your Level of Immaturity will force you to Answer anything, just to be the Last to Speak, I will not Respond. I will do you a favor to the Members of this Forum and End this Ridiculous Debate, because like You, even I am Playing the Idiot.

[FromTheHood]

This is literally every solo game in pubs.

I stopped marking ammo crates cause one dude takes all charges at the start of the match and dies 10 sec later, followed by him doing a rage quit.

Not to mention potatoes running to radio to revive a dude who left the game, thus wasting reinforcement.

There are so many braindead ppl in pubs, it’s a comedy central show.

[CCD_Wuffell]

Last time I had a teammate do that I trapped him in a room with the pred. He was not happy but I didn’t care. Don’t take 2 ammo bags at the start of the game before you fire even a single shot.

[FromTheHood]

I agree. I dont mind doing the carry, but at least dont hinder me further by taking stuff you dont even need.

Good example, me and my friend did a match, dealt 13k dmg to a good Pred and killed every AI that popped, 2 potatoes that were randoms, didnt even do the mission, in fact, they didnt do anything except dying twice in a match.

[Eshtion]

@TheKingofPredators

Eshtion, how old are you?

Serious.

I’m getting worried that I might be arguing with a child.

In that case, I will simply stop responding because I will be playing the fool.

Relax I’m not a child.

@TheKingofPredators

It is simply a matter of taste.

Subject Closed here.

There is no counter-argument.

@TheKingofPredators

If the whole team is called “Voodoo-1”, then the Illfonic did a Very Stupid thing.

Doesn’t sound very personal.

And ignoring that opinions can still be backed up.

@TheKingofPredators

It is not enough for me.

I think the system can improve.

Ok.

But why is it flawed in the first place that’s my problem.

You’ve been calling out the team names as poorly designed, wether on purpose or not.

I honestly don’t care if we can customize team names.

@TheKingofPredators

And I won’t tell you how I think this improvement can be made, because we disagree with everything, I’ll just waste my time explaining and being verbose.

Why bother saying this then?

@TheKingofPredators

This is neither my problem nor anyone else’s.
It is totally yours.

Team Voodoo is a fine name for a team. That’s your problem.

Not mine nor anyone else’s.

Plus the issues goes beyond that.

There’s also DLC releases. Que times are going to be even worse for the given class released and toxicity is going to go up.

As well as restricted options and needing a complete rework to how matchmaking and class selection works.

@TheKingofPredators

In another Post I will point out my ideas about Balance.

For now, another closed topic.

Once again without counter arguments.

Why bother.

@TheKingofPredators

Do you think I am part of the Illfonic Game Development Team ?.

Yes.

@TheKingofPredators

I think we can close one more topic, because in addition to your comment being ridiculous

Statement without reason.

Also how is the concept that working on your idea and fixing the flaws you find with it ridiculous?

That’s essentially a draft.

@TheKingofPredators

Victory Condition and a Hunt, for Me are Totally Different Things.

Another Question of Opinion.

Once again, No Counter Argument.

So you need the game to arbitrarily tell you to do the thing you want?

Predator also doesn’t validate thirsting downed Ayers can preds not do that?

@TheKingofPredators

For me, this mode would be great for the game

Yes.

THE ISSUE IS THE PART WHERE IT REPLACES CLASH

@TheKingofPredators

And I think it’s a perfect match.

Question of opinion again.

Again, without counter-arguments.

It’s my opinion don’t even talk about it.

Let’s rearrange something here.

@TheKingofPredators

Murderer should be legal

Question of opinion again.

Again, without counter-arguments.

See the issue?

Opinions aren’t innocent and opinions are immune to critism. Especially since I’m just trying to have a debate.

@TheKingofPredators

That’s True. I know Mine Limits.

But I am absolutely sure that you do not know your limits.

I’m perfectly fine. Just waiting for you to reach your limit.

@TheKingofPredators

to insist on a debate where you see that no matter how much you try to show your point of view, the other person already has a formed opinion about the situation and you are irritatingly forcing the person to respond.

I know it sucks right?

I know this dude on the forums called king of Predators- ok jokes over you get the point.

Whenever someone makes that claim they’re also being stubborn and not budging and just assume they’re arguments are absolutely correct because “they’re just that good”

@TheKingofPredators

This is a Child’s Attitude.

…

…

…

…

Yawn

@TheKingofPredators

I will be Mature and Educated, for despite what You will Respond, because your Level of Immaturity will force you to Answer anything

@TheKingofPredators

And I won’t tell you how I think this improvement can be made, because we disagree with everything, I’ll just waste my time explaining and being verbose.

@TheKingofPredators

I will not Respond.

There you go. No shame in that.

@TheKingofPredators

even I am Playing the Idiot.

It’s idiotic to have a conversation?

Keep in mind your leaving argument is "my ideas are opinions leave them alone.

@TheKingofPredators

Question of opinion again.

Again, without counter-arguments.

Now yes I did pull the opinion card to breakdown an argument but that was over whole team Voodoo thing which let me remind you

@TheKingofPredators

If the whole team is called “Voodoo-1”, then the Illfonic did a Very Stupid thing.

Thats not very opinionated.

[Choppuh]

The collective issues with random fireteams is giving a lot of Predators easy wins and a ton of breathing room. You’re either using their esophagus as your own personal toilet or they’re dissecting you in a lab after they’ve eviscerated you in the field.

I could probably count on one set of hands the matches that seem to be neck and neck. I know they happen, it’s just much less frequently than I’d like.

Also… would love to actually stay in matches longer—both as Pred and fireteam. Just seems kind of ass how quickly some of these end. Extending them a bit and raising the veritanium/experience earnings would be aces.