Except, even an adapter has the look acceleration and rotation limits that controllers have and they have inherent input latency from processing, so that would still be much closer to “fair” than a PC mouse vs controller, as it should be.
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The gap there is so huge that nothing is reconciling that, its not fair to begin with like 2 people playing with racing wheels.
I meant the ones everyones using in halo to get the aim assist at close and midrange while using the mouse, people playing vanilla dont get the aim assist meanwhile the other guys just tapping the trigger for locks over and over and you hear the same “WOLOLO EVERYONE JUST BUY AN ADAPTER LIKE ME.” And that snappy aiming isnt going anywhere for console shooters works in any game where ADS sticks the reticule on the target if you aim in their general direction, so all of them. Generally obvious when people are using it because they spend more time mashing ADS than aiming but they’ll still excuse it as a valid peripheral lol.
If you’re playing rogue company or something with crossplay off it will still read the mouse as a controller and throw you in a controller lobby.
If it is a legit console compatible mouse, sure, maybe what you’re talking about with getting into a controller lobby is true.
If it is an emulator trying to turn mouse inputs into controller inputs, there are too many downsides for it to be a significant advantage and might even hurt your aim in some cases.
Mouse adapters are waaaay better now.
We’re in an age of cloud gaming & fully programmable controllers and you’re expecting people to still get hit with signifigant input lag using $200 adapters?
This is some bullshit.
Do you have any video proof of this?
Anything that emulates a hardware controller will be bound by the same limits of a controller. You can’t do a 180 degree turn in a split second with a controller. You can’t do it with a mouse emulating a controller because for all intents and purposes, the game is accepting controller input, which has limits.
I’ve used ReWASD to play with controller games that only support K&M and vice-versa (to play emulator games such as Metroid Prime with K&M). It doesn’t work as you say. So , bullshit.
This is exactly why playing Rogue Squadron with K&M (and pretty much any racing game) is impossibly difficult. The mouse movement is literally translated to joystick movement internally. Games like Battlefront and Battlefield had to rework the vehicle navigation to be optimized for M&K precisely for this.
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What does that have to do with having the precision of a mouse vs analog sticks?
Console shooters aren’t twitchy CS FPSes if we’re assuming the ability to 180 is what makes or breaks your ability to headshot someone with a mouse compared to a stick. Though youre going to have better control turning period because its a damn mouse and a blanket advantage.
You’re comparing racing games and platformer WASDing to the precision of a mouse in a shooter lol.
you know what, don’t worry… I love to put evidence where I speak, unlike you. So how about I just do a video using K&M emulating a controller on PHG and see how it goes.
I’ll keep you posted and if I am wrong, I’m wrong. If I am not, then all you say is just bullshit, like you always do, trying to impress with shit knowledge that you read from random forums over the net that nobody has actually tested.
lol are you claiming you’re limited by the controller sensitivity so a mouse adapter must be pointless just like the macros? Or that PS4 PHG cant emulate KBM without native mouse support? Are we still pretending a mouse isnt an advantage over a controller? Can’t tell.
Here you go, fortnite starter pack. Knock yourself out. I eagerly await the “if its not 1:1 its useless like my macro”
Oh yeah grab one of these while you’re at it I advertise for free.
again… where’s the video? where’s the proof it works?
Because I sure ass hell can prove it doesn’t
Dude online you can even sell devices that improve MPG on cars and people pay hundreds of dollars on them… doesn’t mean they work.
Exhibit A
Have you just not played shooters on console? Apex and Rogue Company are free if you’re unsure about it now and dont want to bother ranking up to bear witness to all the KBMs.
RC has ranked actually but Apex is fine and you’ll have a wonderful time just loading in bunnyhopping around people playing with sticks. Buy it lol I would never sell you a turbo charge engine famalamamalam.
yes, on the wii, PSmove and now on Oculus Quest 2 :D
No, I do not play games on sony or micro$oft consoles anymore. Graduated from that probably 8 years ago.
It doesn’t matter if I do or not. Where is the proof? I want to see an input overlay of that controller stick moving all the way to the left and doing a 180 degree turn in a split second the same way you are able to do it on a mouse
Turn control is not essentially what gives mouse its advantage over a controller, can’t say I understand where you’re coming from. 1:1 KBM or everyone playing shooters with these are gimping themselves? Using adapters is like a 12V 16.5A Car Auto Electric Turbine Power Turbo Charger?
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Here it is
This is what a mouse to controller translation looks like. If you can’t do the movement with a flick of a joystick, you can’t do it with a flick of a mouse using any kind of controller emulation.
Does the emulation helps controller precision using a mouse? Possibly, I guess with enough practice, like everything else (like, getting good with a controller, for example)
Does it achieve the same level of gamplay and movement of a mouse? NO. Absolutely not. It is literally impossible because the game cannot interpret inputs beyond those who are sent by the hardware, even if it is emulated.
I didn’t make a PHG video as I haven’t been able to find how to deactivate the mouse while still emulating a controller, so the game still detects the mouse movement. When I do, if I manage to, I will post a video showing this in action and how your theory is just flawed.
I am getting the impression you have never actually used one of thess devices and it shows.
Word of advice, never claim to know how something works until you have actually tested it yourself
There’s my answer we’re still pretending a mouse isnt an advantage over a controller.
Can you believe PS3 had CS:GO? Crazy. Last gen had noticeable input lag but not like it mattered because it was a twitch shooter vs analog sticks lol.
Pass these days though not worth climbing Seige ranked compared to just playing PC if everyones using KBM anyways.
I don’t know if you just havent touched a controller in a decade or what. They both operate on an X and Y axis and the mouse is infinitely more precise. You’re having some weird 1:1 strawman arguement with yourself at this point.
Fam what are you even doing…?
Never said it wasn’t
Played this game with a controller since released to about 6 months later. On PC, without “aim-assist”
Was it harder than K&M? sure
Does it matter? Not really. You just have to get used to it
Pick one
Is easy mah man
Not because something is harder means is impossible
Let me put an example you might not relate to, but I do, so, fuck you anyway
I play guitar. There is this technique called “alternate picking”, staccato, whatever… and then there’s economy picking. Is one harder than the other? Yes. Does it matter which one you decide to use? No. If you get good at alternate picking, really good, you don’t need to sweep or use economy picking. You can achieve the same result with it.
Now go google some guitar gods like Paul Gilbert, Steve Vai, John Petrucci and Yngwie Malmsteen and hear and watch the differences. They all achieve the same results using different techniques. The ones they wanted to get good at.
Does it matter if you’re approximating a distance between two points compared to using a mouse?
Do you realize why potatoes over/under shoot?
They’re SCROLLING. Not playing guitar.
And they strafe from side to side instead of trying to fuck with the Y axis simultaneously because lol bilateral motor coordination.
Using a laptop touchpad is a more even matchup scrolling experience for a mouse than controller lol because its a bit more reactive and uses one finger. Can you become a god with a touchpad? Yes. Is that realistic or viable fighting someone at the same skill level with a mouse? Of course not.