For those complaining about Fireteams: Squad up with Friends

[Saikoro]

Let me preface with the fact that I played Destiny extensively, all the way from Week 11 of Destiny 1 (I started right after the Loot Cave was Patched) until shortly after Forsaken dropped for Destiny 2. I believe my total time played rounds out to about 4,200ish hours. I ran every Strike dozens of times, did very well in Crucible (average K/D was a 2.45) with a hard earned full Trials of the Nine Flawless Hunter Set (it’s still some of the best looking Gear in all of Destiny) and collected every sought after Weapon due to ravaging through every ounce of Content.

But most importantly, all of my best experiences in Destiny were when I Raided with all of my closest Friends in a full Fireteam. We ran Vault of Glass (still the best Raid IMO), Crota’s End and King’s Fall every Tuesday, usually with each of our three Characters back to back. Better were the People I met through Friends of Friends and the chill banter we shared while annihilating Raids were some of the best experiences I’ve been a part of.

Since I got so used to running with my besties, I found that playing with randos was a hassle in LFG Groups. Segments like the Vault of Glass and it’s Oracles, that should take 45 minutes tops, took upwards of 2 hours. Randos that claimed they knew what they were doing knew absolutely squat when it came down to it. Even worse was that when communication was necessary, everyone was quiet. I ultimately switched sides to PvP until I lost interest after four and a half years. That was a month after Forsaken dropped.

So with my lengthy Post, you’re probably wondering how the hell all of this ties into Hunting Grounds. Actually, everything. Especially since both Destiny and Hunting Grounds are heavily Fireteam focused.

Since Hunting Grounds launched, I’ve been playing exclusively as a Predator, maining a Berserker. Predators are deadly, but most importantly, insanely mobile. If you can keep moving to confuse a Fireteam while engaging, you will be quite successful. While I’m a Berserker at heart, the Scout can be even more efficient with Hit and Run or in your Face Tactics, without Impenetrable active. Gameplay makes so much more sense when you start to grasp all of the available nuances.

Fireteams on the other hand are a different story when queuing solo. You’re at the whim of Matchmaking and playing without any form of coordinating makes killing a Predator much harder. The only time you’ll be successful is if you get matched with a fresh Predator Player (as indicated by the default Mask and lack of Weapons) or Fireteam Members who have a decent grasp on what to do. Otherwise?? Nobody fully coordinates. Fellow Teammates don’t always assist. Objectives and the Respawn Station are sometimes ignored. And waaaaaaay too many Rage Quit. At the very best, you’ll likely last about 7 minutes until you’re killed by a Predator.

But earlier today and for the very first time, I ran as a Fireteam with three of my Streamer Buddies. And I gotta say, the difference is night and day and really exposes you to what Hunting Grounds is capable of.

The first thing I noticed is that when everyone is actually coordinated, it’s far easier to focus fire and deal serious damage to the Predator when it tries to engage. Weapons like 'Ol Painless actually felt viable (for once!!) and worth using. Specific Perks made more sense due to my Role in our Team. AI only became a problem if we focused too hard on tracking a Predator. Matches also lasted, on average, until the Timer hit the 3:15 Minute mark (Exfil and all) or when a Predator finally got the drop on us. Out of the two and a half hours we rolled together, I’d say 80% of our Matches were successful. That speaks volumes.

I see far too many people here needlessly complain about what should be buffed, what should be nerfed and practically every little nitpick that playing solo, or against solo Players, amplifies. None of the Matches I played today felt as if the Predator was too powerful, nor did any of us feel underpowered. And nobody died too quickly, which is another complaint seen too often here.

Everything felt right when everyone was working together and coordinated as a Team. But the biggest takeaway is that everything felt so damned fun while Hunting Grounds was firing on all cylinders. I highly suggest playing this way. You won’t be disappointed.

[DovahkiinJr]

But what if you don’t have any friends?

[Idunno56]

I like this and agree but nobody Ik has this game… or cares about it lmao

[KameofWar]

then you need this

@KameofWar

I’ll just leave this here along with the OP’s post it’s literally all you need to know to be good at fireteam and literally stomp any pred you run into

ok SO first Scar, LMG, AK, the first AR, and Hammerhead, vector the last SMG and the 2XL you should never use shotguns as they do less dps than the 2 smg’s i’ve mentioned use extended mag on all of them each of these weapons can down the zerker predator in one clip or at least in 11seconds if you are a fireteam these are the only weapons you should be using unless your a sniper god all of the snipers are good it’s entirely preference between the 3 of them however the barret 50 (last sniper) and the bolt action are both fine at taking off the preds mask in around 2-4 shots the minigun is overrated but is really good in close range as another option it and the magnum are memey with the assault but not terrible it’s just other primary weapons/secondary weapons do their job better
with these weapons you now have the capability to downs zerker in one clip or in 11 seconds or less assuming your pretty accurate and depending on your range closer ranges get as low as 4-6 seconds farther away get to about 7-11
keep in mind some of these guns such as the LMG can kill the predator before he can down you in melee this is true for every melee weapon when your support with the right perk setup which lets you completely prevent melee play from the predator if your aim is true in CQC

2nd you have to know how to parry with the autos above it takes 2 parries to kill any predator in the game
If you equip the knife by holding the melee button and pressing L2 or whatever your aim button is you get a heavy stab this stab has more parry frames and at times lets you parry the pred melee attacks with no thought in your brain so use it if your struggling

3rd you should be using either the assault or support or dutch classes in all cases Recon and scout is strictly worse than everyone else you will never need the spotting duration hip fire accuracy and + revive speed could be useful but most of the time if someone is downed unless they crawl behind something it’s not worth trying to revive them besides the interaction perk increases revive speed so just take the perk on an assault or dutch and bang you get to be scout with 150+ hp

4th you should only be using perks that increase your dmg to the predator or increase melee dmg and hp up dmg reduction from currently OLWF scales on max hp so if your hp is 150+ it usually is better than +HP you could for 3 costs take +interaction speed or +move speed or then for any 2 costs you should always be picking reduced recoil reduction or 6 sense or reload speed for your 1 costs you should be picking ADS movement speed or sludge blood albeit hip fire accuracy generally isn’t good but you could take it if you think your going to fight a lot of melee pred’s

figure out which combination of perks here work for your class set up and use them well

5th Gear you should always be taking syringes on every single class or medkits

if you are support you should take both if your in a premade 1 person should have ammo bags and whoever is dutch/assault should be running audio decoys + thermal distractions every other item isn’t usually worth using unless all these items are being used by someone it’ s best to have 2 medkits per fireteam
6th communicate with you team if you have a mic if the predator leaves always have someone go check the local pig spawns generally there is a very close pig spawn near camps always check it if pred leaves if you catch him eating a pig that equals death for him

7th reinforcements 3 people means all in go their 2 people should split up you can be mudded for the entire game if you keep an eye on it rendering isolation worthless for pred if your all running silencers which the only downside is a slight dmg down this would cause some weapons to no longer one clip the predator so it’s your choice on how valuble that is unless the predator gets lucky on which camp he is looking at he will never find you until extraction

an 8th thing i just thought of if your fighting a predator who killed 2 people and he left whether healing or not you should immediately mud up and get out of the obj your in and wait for reinforce mission and head to it cause if he comes back he will probably wipe the 2 of you once reinforce starts he is alerted and you should immediately leave the local area not too far so you can sprint back to help your friends when they spawn but far enough that pred doesn’t kill you before they spawn

9th buildings under any circumstance you should never have more than 1 person in a building ever cause slam dmg is very high so make sure your not too huddled also in some cases if someone is downed it’s better to not revive them due to the ranged aoe/dmg of the predator killing those who interact this is also true with obj’s make sure you scare the predator off before doing such things or make sure his focus isn’t on you when your doing it people are bait remember that

10 the best predators use leap to confuse people so you need to be effective at trackign jumping or it’s movement in general predator move speed is the MOST POWERFUL tool they have as it lets them avoid dmg once you get this down predators will start to get wild and of course keep an eye on blood and use your ears to find them don’t want em standing still while invisible so they can ambush you or your team or heal for that matter

generally speaking the best comp for a team is probably 2 supports one assault one dutch you could mix and match this as long as you have one support on your team and all of you are using this here post you have a predator hunting death squad at your fingertips

this is all you need to know to be successful as a fireteam even against other pred varients not just zerker combi do to raw dmg output you have access too

keep in mind you FT’s have more effective hp than the predator because in theory you could have 48 heals and can dps him down faster than he can you so generally speaking if your losing you probably lost at loadout select unless that predator was just a apex monster which in my experiance has only happend to my squad 2 times out of what like 75+ games

All weapon dmg stats

[DovahkiinJr]

Thanks lol

[Idunno56]

I’m a very coordinated ft member and usually do the most damage to the pred and survives till the end and rarely die unless the preds focus me after they rush and I do massive amounts of damage usually resulting in second wind he focuses me the rest of the game wile I’m dying my team is clueless lmao

[DK12]

Game suited for random queue.