FT rage quit rates gone thrugh the roof after their buff

#41

Its 6 hits with hard hitter to down the predator (someone else tested it and posted in that topic). That’s 3 hits for 50%. The guy shooting him up contribute to the damage for sure. Also keep in mind that you need a perk for that and it costs 3 points, like OWLF Trained.

That said I don’t think you play randoms enough and IF, that is IF the devs are balancing around that… The predator is in a VERY good place. Its like I’ve had 3 games today, all 3 1v1 with the pred, in one of them when I eventually died fighting on a roof (he was almost dead)the pred just went inside a building and KILLED ALL 3 AT THE SAME TIME with the combistick. While I don’t think we should balance the game around this alone, its something to consider. If I had 3 more people like me in those game we would have walked all over the predator. Are we the majority? I don’t think we are even close to being a majority.

So its easy for teams of good people, its hard for potatoes. The devs are probably trying to fall somewhere between this 2 groups.

FPS, more so games like COD requires quite a few things to make you reach the top. Reaction times for one. Its the same with athletes, I can train my but off but considering I was not gifted at birth with certain genes I will never reach the top.

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#42

Look man, I just think ft damage should be toned downed a bit.

Like 25%.

Give the ft more incentive to actually work together.

Xan, the lower tier players do bad not cause of gear, but because of their attitude towards gaming.

They dont really care.

So why cater to ppl who dont really wanna try?

Which honestly I feel like you dont really wanna try.

You’ve been playing since launch.

Go play pred for like 2 weeks and then let me know your thoughts.

Seriously, I’m actually curious how that would go.

#43

25% is not a bit, its extremely major. BANE that is OMG broken is only 10%.

There is no incentive that would get randoms to stick together. Most games I try to position between them since 2 go one way, another goes another way… What they need is a far better matchmaking system where they take into account team composition. So don’t put all potatoes on a team. Wait until you can get some skilled people in that team as well but I am not sure we still have the population for that.

The number one issue is keeping the game with a healthy population. That is why you want to cater to them. If this game would have the numbers that would not matter, when the que for one side gets upwards of 20 mins, things don’t look good.
Then I am sure Illfonic was like, we have the pred numbers, how do we get more people to play FT… Someone else was probably like we can only get casuals at this point. Then they went from there.

Try something else, go play 10 predator games, let me know if you’re win ratting is below 50%.

#44

The population suck cause no one wants to stick around a buggy ass game.

That’s the main reason ppl leave.

Theres better options out there.

And what does my win loss ratio have to do with anything?

Yes I do good on pred, but I do good on ft as well.

So uh…
What the fuck am I going to take away from that?
I play a lot of ft man, and it’s too Easy.

You’ve been here for a while.

Go play pred.
For like 2 weeks like I said.

And tell me then if you think everything is still good, balance wise.

You may think I’m saying it for some ulterior motive or some shit, but I’m really not.

Things I’m curious about if you decide to do it-
How are your results good?
Bad? 50/50?

Will your thoughts change on anything?
Did you happen to end up enjoying it?

Stuff like that.

Your mind might not change at all.
Either way, I think the results would be Intresting.

I mean shit, do it for 1 week.
Seriously play pred, vs randoms or premades, doesnt matter.

I want you to do it, but I’m not trying to force you or anything.

Like I said, in your case specifically, I’m curious as to how it would go.

If I can get fun on both sides, I’m pretty sure you can too.

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#45

Ikr to play FT requires skill that literally any other FPS can teach you, If you’ve ever played CoD you’ll know exactly how to play here. The only way for a FT to lose is if the team does not coordinate well and splits off even then however you always still have a fighting chance by yourself unless they bring a net gun in which case you gotta position yourself well around cover and exploit the hit boxes.

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#46

Yes, we got many reasons why people don’t stick around. Thing is randoms don’t play enough to be hit with bugs and more so on FT side.

Your win ratio, if its above 50% that is probably what the devs are aiming at. The fact that you’re screwed when faced with a premade is an afterthought. That IS my point.

I am not going to play pred since I don’t enjoy it. Playing it would not change the things I’ve told you about. Its really pointless to the discussion. I am not saying predators are not frustrated when faced with competent people.
I am telling you:
1-The majority are randoms.
2-The majority are potatoes for the most part.
3-Win rate around 50% is probably what the devs intend.
4-They need more FT players, and they need not to lose more FT players or the QQ would change from balance to que times.

That’s about it.

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#47

No, it’s not because of competent people.
Its because the balance is way too in favor of ft.

The damage they do with some guns is too much lmao.

Of course you don’t See a problem cause you only play one side. And since your side has the advantage, of COURSE your happy and think its fine.

You even refuse to try the other side, so you can understand the problems they face.

But tell me Xan.
Given that there’s only two sides to explore.

And you refuse to play and study 50% of the game, why should anything you say be taken seriously or considered?

Because as far as I see it, only those who play both sides equally, are the ones who should have any say in balance.

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#48

Honestly the only time a ft losses is if they make a mistake.
I dont ever really see a pred win fully off of skill.

Idk that might just how I see it tho.

Who knows lmao.

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#49

All it takes is one match where you get stuck and cannot move, or you spawn in pixelated without a head unable to shoot or die for them to say fuck this game regardless of how long they’ve been playing all the way from launch to today.

What about FT members who win 95-100% of all of their games regardless of going solo or premade would that not count or is that considered fine?

#50

Even after the patch, I crashed the other day when I got downed at the exfil because I had the self revive syringe. To the predator, I’m sure he thought I rage quit. I’ve been disconnected a few times when there were only 2 FT players left.

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#51

If those are not competent people, those bullets are not going to hit you man.

Now I am not saying its not a problem, I am saying the game has things that have more of a priority then the balance around competent teams.

It should matter because the developers have change things in this direction and I am telling you reasons as to why they did it? Oh and BTW, I don’t play football, I still give a shit ton of opinions about those matches just as well. You don’t need to play predator to voice your opinion on the state of a game.

#52

What do you think splitting away from your teammates is called? A mistake is what it is or not choosing scout either way you’ll be screwing over everyone.

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#53

The game braking bugs you broth up are very rare.

The question is how many people on FT side have those high W/L ratio. Only the devs can know with statstics. If those are a small minority they are probably ignoring them.

#54

Those were just two examples I’ve seen recently if you want a more common and worse glitch it’ll be the constant crashing that has been screwing everyone.

Idk there has to be a middle ground where it’s both challenging to FT and pred where the results don’t overly favor either side instead of saying that 50% w/l is fine for pred but not for FT however you’re right until the devs release that info we can only speculate on personal experience.

#55

I get no crashes. The only bug that happens often is the animation canceling (or whatever you want to call it). When you use something, it just stops with no input from you.

The developers are really bad at communicating anything. I am just speculation on the reasons as to why they are taking the game in certain direction.

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#56

Eh it’s whatever Xan. I dont care in the sense that, if this is how it’s going to be, I just want more options for the pred.

I’d love to replace slam with something else.

I would love to add perks and effects to my weapons.

Idk why but I keep wanting an ice effect for my plasma caster.
I dont why either.

Give pred and ft a bunch more shit.
Just make sure pred has an advantage, so the 1v4 can still be fair.

More than balance tho?
I just want bug fixes and stability.

Please for the love of God.

#57

It’s probably because you’re on PC but on PS that happens to people often, I also get that animation canceling glitch often.

They are horrible at letting us know anything, they’re a bit better than they used to be but have to step the hell up.

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#58

Scout is Fucking disgusting even tho I’m playing it right now xD.

And splitting up isnt always a mistake.
3 distract, 1 does the mission. It works lol.

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#59

More content is something we all want. I was just trying to explain to you possible reasons for why they decided to take the game in the direction they did.

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#60

Yeah, I am on PC. I get stable 90 frames and no crashes.