heavy hitter plus yautja bane is a night mare, they can do more damage than you with wrist blade
Heavy hitter? Fastest melt I've ever felt and it was only 2 dudes and one with a knife...
Guess you never saw my youtube video 12 second shit show… or the many other community members who have posted similiar videos… Hell my video was before this last patch so i imagine its even worse now…
Don’t rush when you are charging your second wind.
Show vid please
I see 2 engagements there, first one costed him half the HP ha had, second one, the other half. 1 was using the knife, the other was unloading on your from pretty close range. You where also on that bridge thing, making maneuvering difficult. Even if one would have only parried and the other one just shoot and you where in a pretty bad spot there. The mistake I see is that you stopped when you where down to half HP and with no second wind to try to net that guy as the other one was shooting at you. You should have leaped away.
I shouldn’t have been melted so fast by only 2 FT regardless. If it was 3 or 4 that would be fine.
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Well it depends, how fast can you melt a person with the elder sword? How fast can you kill someone with combistick into wristblades? If the predator has insane burst, FT needs insane burst to make do in the damage windows they pop.
I’m fine with ft having burst damage, but there’s an issue with perks being broken right now. As things currently stand there is 0 point in taking impenetrable and fearless as pred. There are negligible benefits. And if you’re not taking heavy hitter and yautjas bane as ft, you’re essentially Gimping yourself.
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Well I guess I am gimping myself since I run Thick Skin + iron lungs on my support. Its more like you’re entire play style is melee people to death from full to 0 and when someone has a counter spec you’re screwed(and knows how to play it). Heavy hitter is 3 points, same like OWLF Trained, thing is hard hitter is good(like PDWZ or pitbul) since so many predators expect to win only by using melee. Try to equip a bow next time and use melee to finish people off from behind.
That said I’ve watched the entire game, you lost and its your fault, its not the talents. Why did you engage in melee the guy build to fight you in melee? You had quite a few encounters with him and you had more then enough opportunities to notices his play style. When all you do is melee, at least keep track of the guy who is build for melee and can counter you to death.
Take note in the water when 3 where shooting at you BUT you where not close to the guy build for melee, it took more then enough hits to get you low. Even there he had his knife out chasing you. Also, what where you thinking jumping in the water with 3 of them there in OPEN FIELD and water canceling your stealth? Come on dude. If they don’t come out, you win (time expires) they are forced to come out. I am quite baffled at what you where expecting to do there. Even if you would have trapped one, you think you could have melee him and then claim his as 2 where shooting at you? Seriously I have no clue, you wasted your entire life throwing traps like that.
Finally. What were you thinking trying to net that guy when you where at half HP and with no second wind? Let’s assume you would have needed that guy. What then? Get melted by the other guy unloading on your (you where at half HP). There was no way you would have gotten anything there!
Look, I am not saying I don’t make mistake or mistakes makes you a bad predator, just don’t blame the damn perks for you losing a game where you made so many mistakes. This was not even a PREMADE. They had a PS guy in there, you claimed 2 of them, 1 left so it was a 1v3… Just saying. Wait for those 3 to engage mobs, jump on anyone BUT The guy that was chasing you with the knife.
Absolutely I could have waited for them to come out of the water, and I’ve done that before. Not alot of fun. As far as melee goes… If I’m specced for it, it should be viable. I don’t care if the FT is specced for it too, they are the fireTEAM. They should be working as a team, supporting eachother and be punnished for not doing so. That’s not to say I don’t use ranged to chip away and break them up when they’re not social distancing.
Jumping into a 4 full hp ft and expecting to melee them all to death should be suicide. 3 is brave but very risky. 2 a challenge and 1 should be more or less a guaranteed kill for the pred. That’s assuming we are all competent.
However, the situation here was ridiculous. If it were both of them shooting me at once, I could let that slide.
Also, when more than half of the predator weapons and 2 classes are melee focused you gonna tell me I should only be attacking solo FT from behind? I’m sure the devs thought the exact same thing. . Lets just throw out a core part of yautja culture and pretator lore out the window… good plan.
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That made me wanna puke hahah. Like lose a lot of health, on it happens. You should not be getting 100 to 0’d that fast by two fuckin people
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Also I see people trying to tell you this is your fault or you mis played, but uhhh no. lol your net did you dirty which happens, then you went to get a couple hits in. Like you had all of 2 seconds to react
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No, this was just straight up bullshit. Theres no reason the ft should be able to do that kind if damage, that quickly, In a game thats supposed to be 1v4.
I swear man, I dont think you realise you’re only ok with this cause you main ft.
This is literally unfair and unbalanced.
Well I can chose something that sounds fun to me and then gets me killed and then say how OP this or that is but I don’t think that would make sense.
Well you did take 2 people down? Then you got outplayed by 2 other people, 1 build precisely to counter your play style. They were a TEAM (as you said), that is why 1 was taking you with the knife as the other one was shooting you up. You where in a place where you can’t move left to right and he could just unload straight into you. In the water with 3 people you lasted longer then that. Again, bad engagement. Bad place and bad target, you should have been on his friend, not the guy with the knife.
Any decent predator is going to win a 1v1 with a predator. You can still do something dumb and lose but that should happen very rare when you underestimate and play around.
One was using the knife with perks to increase its damage and you where fighting in melee with him, the other was shooting you up? So, em? What? They where both shooting" at you.
Any team that is competent and covers one another, yes, you need to attack from behind. Even if you get one down you’re going to achieve nothing. You’re going to lose HP and not kill anyone. Melee does not mean jumping in melee range and melee people to death from full to 0, some skill and tactics should be used. When those 2 died nobody covered them, you just used net and killed them easy with wristblades (if I remember right). I don’t seem to see you commenting on that…
Actually its 70 against 4 in quite a few games. Now if the predators just leap in with NO AI cover, no bushes, not splitting people up, bad position, engaging in melee a guy build to counter melee just so you can go OMG BROKEN! To me its absurd.
Just watch the game, he jumped even in the water in the MIDDLE of 3 people throwing traps around in front of them as they where shooting him up. When he died he was in a very bad position engaging a guy who he should have KNOWN was build to fight in melee instead of his mate as the other gut was right there shooting him up… I don’t see you commenting how fast the guys he killed went down? Just watch the first 2 kills.
At last find me a good premade busting a pred up. This was a bunch of randoms outplaying him. Simple as that.
I don’t think you understand what’s being said here… I don’t care if one dude was built for melee… he’s one dude. I’m not saying I shouldn’t have been punnished for engaging like that. I’m saying I should have had a chance… they shouldn’t have killed me THAT fast. It was only half their team… yet they did more damage than a 3 of them shoting at me earlier… because of a KNIFE… let that sink in.
Fucks sake. How are you going to compare the solo faction dps to the team faction?
Of course hes supposed to down them quickly, otherwise its unfair.
The team faction should not be able to burst him down as fast as they did.
Seriously it pisses me off that you and so many other ft mains cant just come out and say it.
You want 1v1 balance.
You want to solo pred.
Which isnt all that bad, but then if that’s what were going to get, we would need to switch shit up to match it so it can be fair.
I dont get how you cant see that what you’re saying is you want 1v1 balance in a 1v4 so you can have the advantage.
He shouldn’t have been downed that quickly.
It’s simply unfair.
And you cant see that, you’re way to biased and should have no say it vote when it comes to balance.
I’m tired of ft mains not being honest and open about the fact that they just want 1v1 balance.
Enough is enough.
Not only that, unless you play both sides, you shouldnt get a say in balance either.
Its not one dude, you faced 2 people. One build for good damage in melee, the other lighting you up from close enough range and dead on into you since you where not moving left and right. You could have LEFT, you had time to REACT, you choose to STOP and try to NET that one guy. YOU made a MISTAKE! that got you killed.
The reason why they did more damage then before is because before you could have moved around, this time you where on that bridge thing in a VERY bad position ensuring ALL his bullets would hit you. Both instances, in the water and on the catwalk it was YOU who chose to engage in a bad spot. The knife when build for it is a MELEE range so it makes PERFECT sense to do good damage.
Good damage is one thing… ALL the damage is another. You still don’t get it.
No, apparently people like you don’t care HOW MANY MISTAKES PREDATOR MAKES. He just should not die because “REASONS”. Watch the fight in the lake, 3 people shooting him, how long it took to put him down. He went that fast down because of his actions and that is it. He could have avoided the massive melee damage VERY EASY, he choose not to. You claim OP because he chose to play bad? Again, HE COULD have AVOIDED the damage and and at least twice in the engagement he died.
You want, as many other people to have the predator BRAIN DEAD mode where it does not matter what CHOICES the guy playing the class does, he should just be immortal.
Now I am not saying predator does not have issues with 4 man premades BUT THIS IS NOT IT! He killed 2 people before, he was in a 1v2 for a time, then in a 1v3, he made BAD choices that made him lose.