Original Plasma Caster sound for Jungle Hunter '87 request

#1

@IllFonic First of all, I must say. Amazing work on Dutch, and update 1.08! Feels incredible to have him in a Predator game after all these years! I actually got goosebumps when I listened to all the Dutch tapes, haha! And awesome work on the bug fixes! Really! Keep up the amazing work, guys! I bought the Dutch pack for both PC and PS4 to support you to the fullest. Really looking forward to the future DLC’s and improvements! Thank you so very much for this! Much love! <3

Now, on to the request. It would be so incredibly dope if you could implement the original sound on the Plasma Caster for Jungle Hunter '87! That whip lash sound effect is still amazing to this day!

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#2

Man, if that gets in, it will be full on 1987, adding to the retweaked Wristblades and Caster models.

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#3

Thats literally what it is now. There is an additional firing sound layered over it. They included the sound of the traveling shot and the initial whip is mixed a little lower than in the film but i can hear the sample.

#4

Smart disc, net gun

Healing kit, bear trap

Dithered lens, light bender, modified reserve

Basically infinite cloak as long as you dont use thermal. Lots of plasma caster abuse, Smart disc to punish bear trap triggers, and net gun paired with the wrist blades to get in and get dirty.

Basically me going full jungle/city hunter wombo combo

edit

obviously jungle hunter 87 ;)

#5

'87 with the spray and pray

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#6

Nice. You could also just quickfire Plasma while Wirstblading everyone when equipping Plasma.

(Illfonic knows of this, but I’m not sure if they regard it as a exploit. It’s been 2 patches since they found out about this, so it might be actual strat.)

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#7

Well thats my favorite thing about wrist blades, you can use them with any of the ranged weapons!

no but seriously its a godsend because without it trying to switch weapons on the fly on pc is aids

I think the net gun/wrist blade combo is worse than the plasma combo tbh. Plasma quickfire doesnt deal enough damage to justify me slowing myself down to spam it.

#8

Sorry, but it’s not like the original sound right now. The whip sound is not in at all.

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#9

no it is in there. Here is a video i made to show you.

the first 5 shots are from the movie, i picked the part where poncho gets hit by the tree because you can clearly hear the thunder sample echoing after the plasma shot (although you can hear the tree break at the end). they use this same sample for most plasma caster shots in the movie you can hear it in multiple shots in your vid.

the next 4 shots are the game. you can hear the sample underneath the additional layer of laserish sound design. it is mixed low like i said and at the impact of the shot they added a sound obscuring the original. you can also hear the thunder trailing aftwerwords, it is filtered however and i think slowed down a touch. i shot into the sky not to hear any impact explosion.

the next 6 are movie and game shots alternating. they clearly mixed the actual movie sample in and added big bass and electricity discharge sound design over it. if you shoot the plasma repeatedly it compresses or barely plays the movie whip sample so you will hear it less and less with repeated shots.

The movie samples are a little dated to put straight into a game. That is why they mixed them under a more modern sound, to make it full sounding but keep some movie accuracy we all know and love. I am a sound designer by trade.

#10

It’s two different sounds, dude. It may be some samples from the original in there, but it still sounds totally different. Best sound from the movie is when Dillon gets his arm shot off. There you can clearly hear the whip lash sound, and that’s the sound that would be awesome to have on the Jungle Hunter '87. It’s a very iconic sound, and loved by many long time Predator fans.

#11

its not just one sound for either the game or the movie. all of those sounds are different sounds combined and layered and edited.

the movie sample with the thunder trail sound was pulled from one of those hits. It wasn’t the Dylan sample because the impact happens right away and there are lots of elements (screaming, music etc) not to mention they might have had access to actual movie stock sounds (predator clicks etc <- interestingly was made by Peter Cullen who voices Optimus Prime he did all the predator sounds) if they didnt they would have a picked a clean plasma shot with no music etc.

then they added additional sound design elements over it to filll out the frequency spectrum and stereo field to make it sound like something from 2020 and not 1987.

the points i mentioned above can be clearly heard. maybe not as much as you would like but it is there.

they basically added an explosion sound and an electricity discharge sound over the original filtered sample.

#12

It may be there (I honestly don’t hear it), and if it is, it’s way too low. The whip sound should be A LOT higher.

#13

also their game engine will dynamically modify how the sound is mixed based on if you are charging it or shooting light hits repeatedly so you dont hear the original sound at all some times i will agree.

#14

ya the most audible part is the sort of wind up of the whip as they added an explosion and electricity over the crack of the whip

I can appreciate that it could be brought up in the mix and designed differently for the 87 class. All of the Predators share most sounds unfortunately so I don’t know how they have it set up. I really want them to add additional roars. That is just the 1 sample used over and over.

Here is hoping if they add Predators like the super predator etc they have a very obviously different roar and plasma caster sound. I hope they stay accurate to stuff like that as they add it in.

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#16

very cool!

#17

I listened to your sample vid. This time with headphones, and you’re right. The whip sound is there, but it’s extremely low and muffled by the other sound samples. But I think if they could increase the volume a lot on the whip sound, and make it stand out more over the other sound samples, it would sound a lot better, and more authentic to the original sound. Although, I would prefer the movie accurate sound, but maybe it’s too difficult to do. Either way, really hope they do this for the Jungle Hunter. Omg, it would be so dope!

And about the roars. Yeah, totally agree that they should have more different roars than just one. More endings for the Predator would also be dope as hell. And when you do a long claim on the last FT member, you should also see the cutscene the FT player sees.

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#18

yes and another thing which is a little tricky to design and program is the winding up of the whip as you can see in your video happens before the plasma is shot. it like spools the plasma and then the crack of the whip is when the cannon fires.

this means if they included the full spooling whip sound before the plasma is shot in game to make it movie accurate your shot would be delayed even more after clicking the mouse. They had to compromise here by making it a little whippey but also be responsive enough when you click to fire.
this would work best when you hold the plasma shot and let it fire automatically after it is fully charged. they could have done it then easily.