Damn good match. Damn good work
Post your videos here
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My first stealth kill. 10 beers down
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Nice, the valkyrie is a beast.
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Nicely done. Several things stood out to me.
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FT damage output is still broke AF. You lost your health several times in literally one second.
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Melee tracking and hit detection is still horrible. Your sword actually went through them several times with no hits.
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Guy at the end went full retard.
I think youāre too hard on yourself regarding the beginning. You had to test them. Then poof, half your health gone with one gernade š
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This post makes no sense. Predators wins, kills almost the entire team 2 times over, FT still BROKEN AFā¦ Really?! At least find a game where the predator does not win this hard. Yes, it was not easy, yes he had to use some skill. Is that not a good thing? For the love of me I donāt understand why people want to see the predators just rush in and melee everything to death. Imagine if the damage was not broken āAFā what this guy wouldāve done to that team.
Did you notice how fast people go down to melee that entire video? What do you think it would happen if FT does not have burst just as well? Rush in, kill one and leave as the others shoot at you.
He won because of his skill level and the teams inability to stay together. This is in no way related to the damage output or tracking I mentioned. To quote @Fire you canāt balance around skill in any reliable sense. You must balance based on the abilities of the characters.
I would agree with where youāre coming from though. I understand not wanted either side to just mow down the other. Itās not fun for anyone. I agree with you that it should be a challenge for both sides.
What Iām trying to say is it should be a challenge for both sides based on skill. Not based on the game simply not working properly or silly one sided mechanics.
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Yes but people like you or Fire donāt want to understand that the predator is not a tank, his skill set is aimed at avoiding the damage. You seem to not want to use its skillset and instead demand he also has tank like abilities.
Right now we have players like Sharpy that win over deathsquads or whatever you want to call them by avoiding the damage. The predator is not meant to be played by absorbing the damage. When he rushed in the middle of all of them at the start, his health should evaporate or the only thing predators would do is rush the team, kill one and leave even if he has to push second wind (like berserker rushes used to be at the start of the game). Then with 3 people the burst would just not be enough to do anything.
Oh and staying together and keeping line of sight at all times is not as easy. More so when we have a game when randoms are a thing. More so I want to point out that you canāt have āI donāt care about casualsā but also have topics like this:
https://forum.predator.illfonic.com/t/free-version-of-the-game/19133/11
PS. The devs said the balance is in a very good spot right now.
Iām not entirely sure I understand the source of your hostile and accusatory attitude. I think itās perfectly fine for reasonable, well-intentioned people to disagree.
What you described is my exact play style. I donāt melee much. I have a love affair with ranged play and trick shots.
Iām also not sure where youāre getting the idea I want the predator to be a tank. Again, thatās not fun for either side. And not at all what I said.
I think before the specializations, balance was very good. Neither side was unreasonable. FT could shred, so could predator. But the specializations really tipped the scales.
And youāre right, I 100% agree that sometimes itās hard to keep line of sight on team mates. Thatās where the whole skill discussion comes in. If it were easy, everyone would be āskilled.ā š
Also, the devs opinion regarding balance means nothing. Have you seen them play?
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How am I hostile? That I donāt agree that FT damage is broken? Accusatoryā¦ Are you not also accusing the FT of OP status? I am saying the balance is in a pretty good place right now.
Well if the predator can tank bullets from 4 people as he is using melee off the bat, what is he?
Specializations where introduced after the cloak change. The state of the game its more up to the devs to decide since they have logs. They said that before the latestet changes, a buff to pred and a nerf to FT that the balance was slightly in favor of the FT. Oh and btw you donāt need to be an expert at the game to decide balance, logs do that just fine.
Yes, its about skill to keep line of sight when 15 AI are on you and the predator rains plasma blasts on you, just like its about skill to avoid the damage, something that Iāve seen predators do, including the game above. At least once he stopped trying to melee all 4 of them to death at once.
OK man, we just have a marginal difference of opinion on balance tweaks.
I would even say maybe I would agree with you 100% on current balance with some more playing time. Since the last patch I havenāt had much time to test everything.
When you say "People like you and Fire donāt want to understand " it comes off as hostile. If that wasnāt your intention, cool and Iām sorry for the misunderstanding.
Regardless, I donāt think thereās much else to say besides enjoy your day āļø
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Believe me it was his intention. This dude has issues.
I seriously donāt see how that line is hostile. I seriously donāt. What exactly is hostile about ārefusing to understandā? I seriously donāt get. Iāve not attacked your skill, character or anything, just the fact that youāre fixated on how much damage resistance predators have instead of ways to avoid it.
I seriously donāt see how the damage is broken in a game where the individual not only could avoid the damage once he started actually trying to avoid it but he also killed the entire team almost twice and won the game. That can be replicated (avoiding damage) against skilled team by skilled predators.
This would be hostile if you ask me:
OK man. No worries. Enjoy your weekend.
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You too man, I seriously meant no disrespect.
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This is an actual grown up. I didnāt care about killing them all I made it my mission to spam them as much as possible as soon as he opened his mouth š
I actually played this exact dude yesterday too and he did the same thing. SO glad I recorded this time.
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Pred movements are not fluid or smooth at all.
Pretty much all melee leaves you locked in place.
So when you move as stiff as someone with arthritis, how do you reliably avoid damage?
Not only that, also the tracking being absolute shit and non existent.
The damage isnt a problem for a 1v1 set up.
Its when you start to multiply it that it becomes a huge problem.
One grenade took like 45% hp.
How do you not see that as broken?
Iāve said it before predator movement needs to start being a lot better and smoother.
With how loud pred is, stealth goes out the window too.
Thatās not an option.
Btw the pred @Mith did not have an overwhelming victory like you said.
He barely won.
They got sloppy at the end.
He should of ended it inside the house with pc blast, but idk why he didnāt.
But this is why you Dont go off of skill, or any one match.
Too many variables.
Pred needs a rework for movement and combat.
Possibly some I-frames if ft isnt going to get a damage nerf.
You should take out lens and put fearless or something.
Kinda no point with your playstyle tbh, to have lens in there.
Pred movement ability is LEAGUES ahead of FT. So whatever you say about the predator, keep in mind FT has it worse, far worse.
Melee is damn strong, check the video right above from where this argument started. How did he get the kills? Right!
Damage seems to be fine to avoid in so many videos Iāve seen I donāt even know why we still have this arugment.
Grenades can be leap out of, it takes a careless predator and quite some skill to hit with them. Now if you have issues with massive damage and AOE letās do something about the PC.
Claiming the team 2 times over is an overwhelming win to me.
Yeah, their damage output was insane, especially from their grenades. I have no idea why the guy at the end started doing the tea bag of peace lol.