Its wonky at first, learn that it fires 2 shots then pauses for a second to chamber.
Once you learn the trick to literal double tapping, you’ll never look back lol
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I disagree sir. Scout with Double time is a gertdamn Hero
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Considering the Pred can really never win witb a experienced FT, OK.
Not disagreeing with you whatsoever. 4 FT members playing to win is entirely in the FT’s favor no contest. Predator can’t keep up with the DPS and that’s just looking at numbers.
If he is face tanking all 4, then no. If he plays smart then he does.
lol no. Talking about a serious team here that doesn’t break line of sight. If the fireteam is playing smart and the pred is playing smart, FT wins no contest as pred can be killed solo. Multiply times four.
Trying to melee? Dead.
Slam? Better have hit and blinded all four people at once because you’re rooted in place therefor dead.
Caster? Thanks for giving away your position. Dead.
Cornercheck? Parried while I am syringing. You are now stunned for two seconds therefor dead.
Quick claim ever? Dead.
Actually managed to down one guy and trying to quickfire him? Lol im going to bodyblock an arrow with my hilarious amount of hp, syringe, and me or one of my associates will now mow you down with an lmg.
That’s being generous and noting that you second wind and get away, so you get 2 tries at the options above basically.
Let’s see, a very protected roof slam and bow would be your sole option if you could headshot a support, except you can’t. So no surprise downs, dead. and your poke is cute but you’re not going to outtrade hitscan weapons with a bow sry. Helps that lmg dropoff is nonexistent. No amount of “playing smart” steals you a win when each fireteam member can kill you in 4-6 second INDIVIDUALLY not even including headshots and still have ammo in the magazine to spare. Maybe if you afk farm AI and show up at the chopper to kill the last guy to the rope and consider that a win.
Just numbers. PS4 might have a harder time but i’m confident they can pull it off too with controllers. Hammerhead improved their DPS from what i’m seeing.
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There is no attack of the Predator that one shots Scouts. Damn near yes but those same attacks will still drop even a Support down to about a quarter of their health as well. Scout is also faster than Support. I don’t see much reason to use a scout myself though but I figure if I am gonna be more squishy then I’ll just go recon for stealth.
LMG… eh. It’s alright. Good for close quarters but the recoil is a bit of a bitch for down range fire. Can’t use a silencer or anything either on it. I would say probably good against rushes but only ok against anything else. More a deterrent to me.
Running four supports… eh. I don’t know. That seems ill advised to me. Sure you could have a good stock of ammo and health but you’ll have a hard time running down a Predator wounded. You’ll be tanky for sure and it could be strong but your options are gonna be far more limited IMO. Honestly as a Predator I am typically more concerned about Scouts and Recon myself because they are much quicker and can be a gnarly bitch to hit sometimes. Support is like a lumbering rhino. Maybe that’s just me though.
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You forgot the minigun. It can down predator who loves to just rush in with ease.
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Bow headshots are relevant. Insta-downs scout and recon. A support being dropped to a quarter hp just means they pop a syringe and it’s immediately negated.
Survivability > “speed” at the highest level of play. Even pubs because just run with your knife out if they try to leave you with their epic double time scout build.
Silencers not relevant.
Speed is not relevant.
At the highest level of play pred shouldn’t be struggling to land hits to begin with. Landing hits isn’t the issue, its that he literally can’t trade with a fireteam that can aim, track the arrow and laser him down to force a reposition after every shot & any damage he takes while he’s being super obvious repositioning. Pred is very predictable and that “im standing still they cant see me!” shit doesnt work after the thousandth game.
You don’t “run down a wounded predator” at the highest level of play because you control the game, the predator has to come to you and eventually get melted or lose regardless.
Even as a dummyproof strategy 4 supports allows a hilarious amount of room for mistakes and i’m convinced anyone could pull off a nice meta winrate with it against the vast majority of preds who still think they’re allowed to melee anyone ever. Being able to take an extra 1-2 hits across the board is huge.
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I don’t know about that for the headshots. I don’t know for sure it isn’t true but I have never seen it happen but I will see about that. And ok, so they use a syringe. Unless they are running gear head now they only have one and nobody runs gear head, nobody. I mean they could find an ammo thing but those seem fairly hard to find. More likely they will throw down a med kit to save the syringes for when they are engaged in close quarters which isn’t altogether a bad idea. And if you hit them with another charged shot right as they finished it, since they can’t sprint while sticking themselves, the syringe doesn’t matter even if if they get some health back.
I think speed and silencers are pretty relevant. A good Predator will likely find you quickly but there’s no benefit in making it that much easier on him. Just that little bit can make some manner of difference. Speed isn’t the end all be all but it certainly helps. Support stamina can drain pretty fast and that can actually fuck you over regardless of the bonus health you have.
I am not totally dismissing your idea, it is totally viable of course. But I myself think a more versatile Fireteam would be better served. One support to provide all the resupplies, two assaults maybe with some back up supplies on one and whatever on the other and then a stealth based recon with the first sniper rifle so they can lay down sustained fire while concealed. I play a lot of Support or Recon when I play Fireteam and it had served me pretty well at points. Give ya enough tricks up your sleeve to give a Pred pause for thought before he just rushes into the midst of ya.
At the end of the day I think it depends more on how you personally play than anything. I myself like to be tactical and unpredictable as best I can.
Yes if you shoot them in the head thats one syringe. Per person. 8 syringes between all of them.
You’re trading pred hp into a single syringe while you get lit up. That’s the problem.
Whereas if you shoot recon or scout in the head it’s a down that actually matters because you can potentially secure repeateded downs off of that.
Gearhead is amazing value wym? Not that everyone even needs 3 syringes and extra medkit but hey if you want to assume more healing is bad idk what to say.
Silencers are still a no because a decent pred is going to find you the first two minutes of the game and stay on you until he gets lasered and has to back off. Should still know where you are by the time hes done.
The maps don’t allow for “unpredictability” you hear clicking = you spam spot until you get a hit because the pred is either on the ground peeking around a corner so he can shoot a single arrow or a rooftop so he can get lit up from all angles.
Really not a contest to say the pred is at a disadvantage.
Stuff is meta not because its versatile but because its easy and the vast majority can pull it off successfully. Combizerks werent versatile but still got nerfed into the ground, case and point.
Firstly I am not saying Gearhead is bad lol. I just literally never see anyone run it when I play Fireteam. Meanwhile I see a shit load of Yautja Bane and OWLF and shit. But that is typical ransoms lol. I love it myself.
As far the trading HP for a headshot, if you are trading more than taking a couple stray rounds for it then yeah it is a waste. But if you can pop a charged shot with or without head shot a couple bullets? I’m happy taking that trade. And you don’t even necessarily need to take even that for it if you are clever and are able to keep them guessing.
I still disagree on the silencer bit. In the scenario you described if you do laser a Predator and he has to withdraw and track again that can buy you more time and time is not kind to the Predator. If the missions were longer and the entire game was basically the same I might agree a bit more but even just one minute can be hugely detrimental to the Predator. Not only that but it helps you, at first at least, maintain control of AI and if the Predator does find you fairly quickly you can have more control having picked off the AI one by one and not having alarms trigger and now you got waves coming at ya, with fairly inconsistent compositions of AI types in my experience, which can drop your health even as a Support pretty quick, albeit once more with the caveat of being massively inconsistent, plus a Predator running through with drive by’s or sniping you. The less shit you have to deal with to focus on him the better it will always be for you.
The spotting can be spotty sometimes though too. Like sometimes it just won’t work to spot him or spots literally every tiny leaf instead of him. I myself don’t find spam spotting much of an issue but maybe that is just me. But that is more speaking in terms of the Predator being more ‘predictable’ than the Fireteam’s ability to catch him off guard. The Predator needs to be a lot more engaged and such that isn’t in dispute.
I don’t know if the combizerker got really nerfed into the ground but then again I mostly play Scout and scarcely use the combistick on that so I’ll take your word on that. But that is a decent point you make there although I think that mostly applies to low and mid tier gameplay. And to be fair that is kind of what is being addressed in this post as well but meta does change and Predators with more experience are gonna be able to handle those kinds of strategies a lot easier and can render them largely ineffective even. I am still not saying this wouldn’t have any efficacy but I wouldn’t throw all my eggs into that basket if ya know what I am saying lol
With my saws with 6x scope.
I quick-no scope predators in mid leap.
On ps4.
I actually want predators to leap in leap out.
I had a lot of practice and just today realized how effective it was in my teams survivability.
When my sniping is hitting for 100 to 120 dps per shot, in mid leap.
That preddy is not having a fun time and have a very low probability of Surving.
Its Counter-Strike Source all over again with the scout rifle lol
I love it so much