Things that are Broken for FT

#281

Wtf is this argument? Parry is balanced if you don’t melee because parry breaks melee fundamentally? Yeah we all know field medic is balanced if you dont try to kill downed players

Melee itself is already crap DPS-wise vs ranged play, the only reason to use it is if you literally can’t aim.
Parry is the icing on the cake because it gives FT CC and a window to outright kill you while you’re stuck in an animation infront of their face.

Anything besides netgun as @DisturbedLlama said earlier they can just spin around and parry you and subject you to the ONLY STUN IN THE GAME for some single target damage in long animation strings at point blank range of the FT.

We’re really still acting like its a mystery as to why people just spam caster rather than risk someone spinning around and stunning them & shooting their mask off lmao.
Woop de doo melee works on bad players so does the wrist launcher, what a joke. If something needs someone else to play poorly to be good then no its obviously not viable vs people that know what they’re doing.

Melee is fundamentally bad both on paper and ingame you and this guy are being intentionally dense.

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#282

Preach brother hahah I tried my best to explain these things

#283

Its pointless though because the same people calling combistick melee OP at launch are the one’s complaining about everyone using caster now.

There’s 0 reason to melee or be forced into taking netgun to pull off long stupid combos when you can sit on a water tower peaking dealing double the damage without getting stunned right next to the FT. Melee is and always will be fundamentally garbage unless they rework it.

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#284

Alive is one of them.
Lol.

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#285

I’m not convinced its the only one , but I will trust you
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#286

You hit the nail on the head bro

#287

What the fuck happened in this thread

#288

War were declared.

#289

People tried telling me in an elitist who doesn’t know what he’s talking about. I did not like that hahahaah

#290

Please tell that to all the Close-Combat Preds with Fearless and the Hammer/Axe that kill FT members with one hit of the secondary.
You can literally pull off one-hit-kills in close combat as Pred if you know how.
How is that garbage?
Sure it’s not viable in most situations, but still possible.
The tracking is only bad if you can’t aim.

#291

Going to have to respectfully disagree regarding the tracking. I have lost count of the number of melee strikes that have literally gone through the FT and not registered as hits. It goes beyond not being able to aim. Melee is fundamentally broken in terms of basic functionality.

And I’ve never used the hammer, but can speak regarding the axe. It’s almost impossible to land a hit on a player who knows how to move and abuse circling in this game.

#292

No you can’t lol. If you are one shotting it’s cause they are low health and not healing enough. Ft weapon damage SPIKES from melee range so inherently getting that close to them is just a bad idea. Like literally the damage they do from 10 feet away is significantly less than the damage from point blank melee range. It’s almost like the devs don’t want melee to be good lol. Also, FT has significantly more Dps. Melee is indeed awful

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#293

The devs have essentially said as much

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#294

I’ve witnessed this , practically one hit from the hammer and you are dropped, it happened to two members of a random team and I wasn’t sure if it was a bug

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#295

Damn who’s right now…

Try Zerker with fearless and you will see it IS possible.
Just like its possible to one-hit people with Combistick throws.

#296

Its not a case of being right , but i would imagine its a variant , it could have been a scout or recon with no thick skin etc , it coukd have been two hits ? One was out of my view , I heard the melee sound and the next thing they were down . The second was in front of me but I have no idea what their health was like , I dont think the pred used anything but melee but the member might not have been full health from AI . I even said to Llama in a game that the hammer seemed packed with power . Randoms tend to split away from you aswell so there is no cover fire , if I play with randoms and they split off? I go with the bigger group 😄 im usually pissed they split up , but its a safety in numbers kind of game , then they watch you get downed and dont shoot the predator once while he claims you and stops for a break , fills out his tax forms and then retreats to the jungle laughing

#297

Why do people always ignore what’s true?
Just because a good player pulls something off doesn’t mean it’s good.

This is the problem.
People are always trying to balance off shitty players, or good players. Never the game itself.

The tracking is god awful.
Melee sucks and Is way too risky for the reward.
Unless you know how to pull it off.
But even if you do, it’s not good.

This is just common sense.
If you cant see that, then you’re blind.

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#298

Against pre-mades? Its a different story, less room for error , we have done it many times. They rush in and rush back out a green blob

#299

I’m not talking about if its good to do or not.
I’m just saying its possible. Nothing more.
Everything else is interpretation.

Against Premades? oof.
If you think I would suggest people to fight a premade with a Fearless Zerker running the Axe/Hammer then you are wrong. xD
I’m training a lot at the moment to become good enough to beat my own team as Pred (Scarface, Mojo, Psychobabas, etc.) and those guys are possibly the best active fireteam right now.
And guess what weapon is the only one that makes me survive them while being able to down a few guys.
The fucking katana that nobody uses anymore.

#300

The katana is ok , the bleed effect is a pain in the ass , I would maybe think it was better if I used it more but I barely get pred games