Viking/Zerker/Cleo

Eh, true and fair enough.

why would you use this weapon on an objectivly worse class that’t can’t one shot ft?
PS players objectivly can’t use the disc at 100% effective ness
ping is what matters the most with disc

using the disc is not always from a safe position due to ACIGS and frags
the disc is easy to dodge when your not aggressively changing the dpi on a mouse
disc can be destroyed once it hits a wall and you have to risk your life getting oen back
disc can be lost entirely due to a bug

usnig discs with bear traps doesn’t work as BT’s are always destroyed before they arm by good teams

if those classes are strong enough to take out top 10% of the game reliably then they will likely be very oppressive to the new player experience, but thats life they just need to learn to adapt and not use exploits

tell this to elder stalker or the Valkyrie in general

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What bug do you speak of?

do not read the rest of this thread it gets real bad

Okay so Enraged like, gives you Extra Movememt Speed and Stam Recovery once at like 25% health tho right? The idea is that it is only active during that state. But once Enraged is proccced, it is permanent throughout the entire game. You can give Zerker, Viking, and Cleo near Hunter levels of Speed and Stam with this once you go down your first health bar far enough. Second Wind does not reset the Spec either.

The thing is, is that this is how Enraged should work regardless. And if it is to be fixed, fix Fervent and Analytic too, see how the other half likes it, getting all of these good specs fixed.

because im not trash with the disc im not great but i can get better if i try.

sure they can hit you with nades if your not thinking about where your throwing it from, you can throw it from a range ya know, about it getting stuck on a wall ever thought about that as an opportunity to hit them while they are focused on something else ? maybe also using the disc as a trap ?

enraged stays active

i’m assuming we aren’t throwing it from a tree outside of the camp yes

yeah that gives away your position to the people not shooting the disc and by assumption forcing you to move or die losing the disc anyway

im gona be straight up, liking this exploit is no better than liking the under map bullshit bros

who said you needed to throw another disc ? use whats most appropriate for the situation

and i didn’t say you throw another disc either bow and caster and melee give away your position to the people looking for you cause you threw a disc

Another problem is that you can’t really nerf Cleopatra without touching her Gear and Perk Points. But do you know what happens if you lower her Perks? She becomes Berserker.

You lower her Gear? Berserker but WORSE

It is also why in that thread I mention that ideally, Cleopatra should Not be touched. She literally Berseker but better and Berserker should get a full Rework or otherwise get some fucking new gear man.

please explain how hiding under a map which forces a timeout loss for the exploiter

is comparable to making a class perform better against the top 10% of players

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misinterpreted that as throwing another disc and being heard then people shooting at you forcing you to move from the spot you threw it from losing your disc anyway, my bad

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its an exploit/cheat i dont discriminate against cheating all cheating’s still cheating

They’re too slow when you get second winded, so their chunk becomes a liability, hence why Valkyrie is still my favourite Predator.

If there was no other class to compare them with they would seem ok. But since we have hunter type classes why would you ever use them? Yes, they have a bigger hp pool, but it doesn’t make that much of a difference.

They are slow, have worse specialisations and are a bigger target.

They are just worse than the others.