Viking/Zerker/Cleo

no one use the disc ?

That’s one of my main weapons to use, the other being the caster. I love using it with a trapper berserker because it’s just satisfying to use… when it’s not bugging out.

doesnt it make up for lake of mobility and energy since it can be used from a safe position and can chase and seek out players

The disc while powerful leaves you defenseless, is prone to many bugs, can be destroyed if you’re not fast enough to reclaim them, and can be negated by someone who loves to use flash bangs. Also unless you’re a PC player with enough sensitivity that can allow you to essentially hover the damn thing on someone’s body then it can easily dodged or exploited against with invisible walls/hit boxes.

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Imagine making a different thread.

I am literally explaining to you why they (Especially fucking Berserker) needs Enraged.

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Please beat a premade Deathsquad using the zerker and post footage

I have beaten 2 PS deathsquads with samurai which is why i don’t think he is trash is is very mid tier the most average predator in the game

until then every single argument you make is invalid

because i don’t care that they can beat the 90%
who again

i care about classes that beat the 10% good players which are hunter city hunter elder valkrie and scout
in that order
if a class can’t do this they are by definition low tier and are trash

and you shouldn’t either it doesn’t matter if a class can beat players that don’t know the rules of the game when it comes to balancing a game as long as the class or character in question is not oppressively damaging the new player experience

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it’s better that he made a different thread though

i didnt want to have that place backed up with a useless debate thats not relevant to their job to read

yeah the debate didnt belong there in the first place imo

Eh, true and fair enough.

why would you use this weapon on an objectivly worse class that’t can’t one shot ft?
PS players objectivly can’t use the disc at 100% effective ness
ping is what matters the most with disc

using the disc is not always from a safe position due to ACIGS and frags
the disc is easy to dodge when your not aggressively changing the dpi on a mouse
disc can be destroyed once it hits a wall and you have to risk your life getting oen back
disc can be lost entirely due to a bug

usnig discs with bear traps doesn’t work as BT’s are always destroyed before they arm by good teams

if those classes are strong enough to take out top 10% of the game reliably then they will likely be very oppressive to the new player experience, but thats life they just need to learn to adapt and not use exploits

tell this to elder stalker or the Valkyrie in general

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What bug do you speak of?

do not read the rest of this thread it gets real bad

Okay so Enraged like, gives you Extra Movememt Speed and Stam Recovery once at like 25% health tho right? The idea is that it is only active during that state. But once Enraged is proccced, it is permanent throughout the entire game. You can give Zerker, Viking, and Cleo near Hunter levels of Speed and Stam with this once you go down your first health bar far enough. Second Wind does not reset the Spec either.

The thing is, is that this is how Enraged should work regardless. And if it is to be fixed, fix Fervent and Analytic too, see how the other half likes it, getting all of these good specs fixed.

because im not trash with the disc im not great but i can get better if i try.

sure they can hit you with nades if your not thinking about where your throwing it from, you can throw it from a range ya know, about it getting stuck on a wall ever thought about that as an opportunity to hit them while they are focused on something else ? maybe also using the disc as a trap ?

enraged stays active

i’m assuming we aren’t throwing it from a tree outside of the camp yes

yeah that gives away your position to the people not shooting the disc and by assumption forcing you to move or die losing the disc anyway