Im waiting in the Illfonic defense force to log in. Only a matter of time. Or even worse the derailment of this convo
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Actually the predator city hunter is more pay to win then Dutch. Everyone and their mother plays City Hunter, not THAT many go Dutch. I am still rolling my support for gear supporting the team.
Dutch has low gear, not city hunter. He has hunter stats + some more. They clearly started with predators, now that they did something similar to FT is it really an issue? If we consider the city hunter me thinks it balances itself out.
Hip fire? Close range you should still aim down the sights in like the majority of cases. Its far more accurate. Only in melee range its ok not do but at that point you should be using your knife to not get killed! At least, this is my opinion.
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That gif the two sitting are Sony and epic lol
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I mean this convo is very on topic still. Pay 2 win is a slice of the pizza. Besides weve been civil. So we will be alright
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Lol. I think you miss read that. We are being civil. There will always be that one person who will come in and throw the wrench lol. Also I think the Illfonic defense force are still sleeping lol
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I still prefer base hunter over city. That wrist launcher is wack
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You are correct. When dutch 2025 came out I remember commenting on it and saying basically, that this one isnt pay to win. But the fact that it isnt just a skin opens the door down the line for shady shit. And sure as shit city hunter filled that role quick.
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Worst part was the rabid fans bitching at me that it wouldnt become pay to win. Lol i enjoy being right sometimes.
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Yeah he did. To take his pay to win status away would require two easy fixes. Reduce his gear amount, and reduce his stats
Just give him elder stats with better stamina he will be non pay to win at that point
The increase is not that major. I think its not that problematic, more so considering most people both it out. The only issue I see with City Hunter is that it does something that Dutch 87 does not, it makes the other hunters obsolete even if not by a huge margin. Imagine giving a support that has a bit more speed (just a bit) more then current support. It would not be OMG the sky is falling type of thing BUT the current support becomes obsolete.
I agree. Its not significant enough to be an issue. But its pretty bad in the fact that it doesnt even try to hide it lmao
You could just tag me, no need to keep throwing shade you know I’m going to read eventually.
Nice echo camber you guys got going on here. I’ll leave you to it.
I didnt even realize he was throwing shade at you? I dont pay that much attention tbh
I’m the defence force based on his other comments, I’m the learning disabled guy he was referring too.
We haven’t even seen the new map or mode and while I would love some hints. Expecting them to tease things even further down the line is silly.
As for bugs, they take time. Making assumptions and allowing your feelings to cloud how you see the devs is also a bit silly. It isn’t like people just suddenly opened their eyes, what really happened is their emotional over reaction to their own expectations is clouding some judgement.
But then again saying all that just hurts people’s feelings more. It’s a pointless argument.
PS. Had to edit, it’s a general thing not directed at you.
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I have an interrupt bug from the when I started playing the game months ago, probably in from the start. How much time do you think they would need to fix it?
22k returning players
Thats sad but expected
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Not a programmer no idea. In Friday rubber banding took 2+ years.
I am not a programmer just as well but I can tell you its MONTHS to late.
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I mean Dead By Daylight finally has its servers in good postion and that took 4 years.
This is not pay to win, nor even pay to be competitive. Try War Dragons if you want to see what it takes to be top tier, and how much money is needed. Of course if someone spends $5 on downloadable content, it has to be worth our while, and a benefit, but like once a month it happens. That is a cup of coffee at Starbucks.
I’m new to the game, and hated to see the nerfs to Predator practically when I started playing. I hope it changes back.
But regarding the original topic, this isn’t CLOSE to pay to win.
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The fact that other games are more pay to win does not make this one just as well. When you provide a class that is better then the rest its flat out pay to win, just like providing a new gun that is better then all the rest. The City Hunter is clearly providing a gameplay advantage, you are buying power, power that people can’t even earn by playing! Its not MAJOR but its there.
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