Whatdo you all think is up with Americas interest in China's intelligence initiatives?

Nobody’s worse than Trump. He was actively really fucking stupid (imma bring up that time he actually told people to drink bleach. Like genuinely), he had no excuse whatsoever lol
At least for Biden, it’s understandable - he’s 3 times my age, and god knows I’m losing it already.

No, but literally everyone else does, and that’s what keeps them all in line - nobody wants to be on the receiving end of a nuclear warhead, and that’s inevitable if anyone fucks with a country that a superpower has interest in.

Yeh but it’s not the bases tho
It’s nuclear ICBMs
Nobody does shit because if they do, they’re gonna get nuked either by the country they’re attacking, an ally, or another superpower with an interest in said country. That includes the US, and is prolly why they haven’t made any moves to steal oil fields lately - just too fucking dangerous.

Who’s that

Thought Trump did that to his daughter? Not on live tv, but he definitely said he wants to fuck her.

So why has Russia invaded Ukraine?
Ever hear of this little thing called proxy wars? People get fucked with all the time.

If you don’t personally have nukes and aren’t part of a pact then you can be invaded,

That’s why North Korea has gone out of their way to acquire Nukes and the only reason that regime is still in power. Why do you think Iran desperately wants nukes.

Ukraine destroyed their nukes with the promise that Russia will protect them if anyone infringed on their sovereignty. Didn’t work out too well, right?

China wants Taiwan and the only thing stopping it from all out invasion is they fear the US and it’s allies

Stick to make believe psychology stories. You don’t know Shit about geopolitics.

Not denying that, and before i go on don’t get it twisted im not rep or dem thier all full of shit and both partiea are the problem. Now by what you said i hope your not defending Biden because although trump SAID…biden DID. Big difference

Seriously!? Cmon bro you telling me this child molester who was showering with his daughter well into her teens is better? I can care less about either but having to choose trump was better but if i can say wut I’d rather have would be to eliminate both parties and make it so anybody with some sense and other things that would qualify someone to be able to be president not some career bag of shit career politicians or ppl who have goals of financial gain during or after or belong to a certain bloodline. Bloodline because its no coincidence that all presidents are related in some form whether by blood, marriage, etc.

Because Putin’s off his fucking rocker. Most of the actual people in Russia didn’t want that war, and because their leader’s so absolutely batshit crazy that most of the west actually believe he would start a nuclear war over one tiny country, nobody’s doing shit apart from supplying the poor fuckers.

You’re arguing for my point, everyone wants nukes and that’s what keeps people in check. People don’t even have to be part of a defensive pact, someone else just needs to have an interest in the country and whoever invades it will have another pissed-off superpower to deal with.

As I said, Putin’s off his rocker. Bit stupid of them to believe him to begin with.

YES
THAT’S WHAT I’M SAYING
FUCK ME
But it’s not the military bases they’re afraid of, it’s ICBMs.

He didn’t do anything tho
Like the only difference between him and Trump is the reason for their ineptitude. Both of them have just stood around with their thumbs up their asses, and Trump towards the end of his regime was bordering on fascist levels of authoritarianism - remember the whole ‘capitol invasion’ thing? Frankly, I’d rather have a president who gets lost trying to leave a stage, rather than one who literally suggested nuking the fucking wind. And I ain’t defending Biden; as you said, he’s a hopeless vegetable. But a hopeless vegetable who isn’t actively telling people to do stupid shit (or at least, noone listens to) is far less dangerous than one who is.

Fr I didn’t know he’d done that lol
Is there a news article or something you could give me?

I completely agree. Really, the entire political system in both our countries needs a rework.

China has a no Nuke first policy and so does the US.
So no…

The US has the means, the experience, and the military doctrine to fight a conventional war.
They don’t need Nukes to fuck you up.

Russia we are finding out is a poorly trained, poorly equipped, group of rag tags, with poor military doctrine incapable of combined arms warfare.

The only countries you should worry about a nuke from would be a little shit hole nation like North Korea or a radical Muslim nation were to get one ala Irán or Syria etc. Thats why their shit gets blown up every time they try.

“Everyone is kept in line”
But what about Russia?

Oh yeah Putin’s crazy.
I forgot about him and an actual war that’s going on right now. Silly me. I’m just a psychologist.

Again all the bases are logistical points with key strategic value.

It’s no different than the Necklace of Diamonds the Indians have going in the Indian Ocean or the String of Pearls the Chinese have in the Indian Ocean.

Oh man why do so many countries have bases all over the world?
According to your logic, they don’t need bases just nukes…

PLEASE SHUT THE FUCK UP

Again, you clearly don’t know shit about geopolitics.

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The evil that is science dictate we should all venture to have something we don’t have that is dangerous enough to destroy us. We should have never tampered with the atom. but we did. We got what we got which is intellegience but at what cost? Every nation with their trigger finger on an ICBM armed with a nuke? We should do more better than this.

The point of having them at this point is to deter the use of them with mutual assured destruction.

There’s only 8 countries currently with nukes…

And North Korea may not even have intercontinental ballistic missiles. They’re still in testing phase. And they may not even have second strike capability.

good. but i’m sure they have access to much much more. I’m mean they are the shadiest most disputed and shadowy of any govermnet known to man. I mean satillite imagery doesn’t even show they exist. and you can’t even see people on the streets unless there is a uniformed military showcase.

Like?
Keep in mind this country has been sanctioned to shit and is one of the poorest in the world with a majority of their resources going to their nuclear program.

So elaborate

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i cant say because i don’t know every secret that a secretive nation keeps a secret. see i can’t elaborate, but given that they are like the way they are one can’t even assess anything.

What type of wonder weapons do you think they have with their primitive tech?

i don’t know but they certain make their way on the news alot. and clearly they are a threat…of sorts. maybe of clown sorts. Dennis Rodman was there i think. Diabeetus? 1

Interesting discussion, maybe the only thing going on in North Korea is mail fraud.

A threat maybe to South Korea not to us.
Their capitol is in range of artillery strikes

I wouldn’t say North Korea is a threat.
North Korea is the Cozzar of the forums.
The little guy trying to boast and make himself appear deadlier than what he is.

you still going on that nk actually exists? i kind of illuded that it doesn’t.

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Ok 👌
Have a good day sir.

There’s a reason why we only talk about racism on the forum.
When it comes to serious topics the page is terribly uniformed and uneducated.

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