A dying forum?

#42

Dude, as i said before - if it’s normal to you then okay. Dead by deadlight was playable without updates because there were a lot of content at the beginning and it was funny. As i remember there were few maps and after few month they added 1 or 2 hunters. In other words - it was playable product, not beta like PHG

And what do we see here? I have played beta and I can say that almost nothing changed from that time. PHG still buggy, low playable, low content game. It feels like beta, you know. People are asking them for a new map or at least some content almost 5 month and what do we get? Zero(skins for predators). And all balance fixes, some guns, skins - this is just small piece of pie. Maybe you’r right and it’s normal for such games, but statistics says another - people are leaving this game and this forum. And i don’t think that after update something will change because even if they add some map or gamemode, they still will be illfonic…

#43

Then fuck off, I don’t know what you expect but I follow the games in this genre and PHG is in no worse condition than Dbd at launch.

So Dbd adding killers = good
PHG adding Pred’s = bad

Most of these games fail in the first year, it depends on a lot of factors.
IllFonic hasn’t made us wait months between patches and are giving shaders to tide us over, getting your panties in a bunch won’t change their plans man.

#44

I mean… I agree with you both but i just wanna say. Theres a huuuuuggge difference between killers in dbd and preds here. Here everything is cosmetic and retains a slightly different playstyle because of stats. (Except city hunter because that mofo is straight up p2w if you like the hunter playstyle) where as dbd characters are totally different in playstyles.

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#45

What you aren’t considering though is the number of different weapon selections Predators have, plus gear and two bonus weapons. The Pred’s gear allows more flexibility than each killer only having one power.

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#46

True to some extent. However we havent gotten new gear. The only gear we have gotten is just blatantly a new weapon on city hunter. Not much playstyle involved in that imo.

Gear supports playstyles for pred. But aside from the bear traps, it doesnt make them.

#47

Well I figure it mostly balances. They had three killer, so three powers and Predator can have PC, wrist blades and two other weapons. Each Predator is actually better equipped than the Dbd killers.

Hopeful we will get more gear, but even taking the bear traps and CH’s launcher as power effects, we’re still on schedule in this loose comparison.

On top of that you get leap, climb, thermal, cloak.

So I agree huge difference but I think Pred’s are better off. They can just do so much more individually. They only lose out on gimmicks.

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#48

I agree with you here.

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#49

I feel familiarity has made people lose sight of how cool everything is. I get it but man there’s going to be so much goodness in two years.

PHG is better in my opinion than it’s given credit for, yes it’s got rough parts (bugs) but unlike the other games I’ve followed it doesn’t seem like it’s going to implode. I listed a bunch earlier and other than the two upcoming indies, almost everything on the list is gone or actually dying, not the fake dying people are always on about.

#50

How did the others implode?

#51

Mostly running out of funds…

Hide or Die, reworked but both versions lacked a satisfying loop or grind.

Last Year, launched on discord floundered, launched on steam had some success (creator got cancer) couldn’t find a publisher to help get it to console where it would have flourished.

Dead Dozen, Ran out of money, had a very cool infection model.

The Blackout Club, had a very cool idea about interacting with devs as characters in the game during matches but was to expensive.

Death Garden, failed to gain a player base even being the sister game to Dbd and having money for development. Launched twice, failed.

Hunt: Showdown, still running but not as successful as Dbd and Friday. Is “balanced” around pre-made’s and is very punishing to new players. If you’re very good a FPS’s you’ll enjoy it. PvPvE, boss fights.

Friday the 13th, still chugging along with bug fixes. Had resent trouble with hackers shutting down their servers.

Dead by Daylight, the raining king of asymmetrical multiplayer… hooks and generators… hooks and generators… you get the idea.

There’s more that I don’t remember off the top of my head. One with two infected who change and kill the others by drinking blood bags, one based on Chinese ghosts/demons, there was also one were the killer is hurt by the light, Evolved, and a couple still in the pipe.

Charley the Legend, which is a Child’s Play tribute.

Death Grounds, Jurassic Park PvE by the programmers who did Alien Isolation.

#52

It’s called Deceit, the one with the blood bags. It’s actually still going pretty good, I play it regularly.

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#53

Ah that’s good to hear, my friend was really into it but I’ve never played.

#54

You should give it a try, the whole game is a lot of fun, especially with voice chat and trying to lie and prevent your cover from being blown. Overall, game is also balanced great. I really enjoy the kidnap and forced into a Saw-like game scenario as well.

#55

Unfortunately it still hasn’t had a console release, I don’t think it’s likely at this point but if it does I’ll pick it up.

#56

The easy explanation is because the playerbase is tanking. The people that stuck around feel ignored. Patches don’t adres the core flaws in this game. Communication from the developers is bare-bone and never adressing what is actually going on.

For a lively forum you need lively members. It was very crowded here at first, people knew each other, played with each other. There were individuals that made name by being incredibly good players. Those same players came here trying to adres the many flaws this game has, but felt like only a third of those flaws were actually fixed. Worse! These patches generally broke new things, which just moved the issues elsewhere.

Too many people kept defending Illfonic saying “things will get better”. They never did. They had the nerve to push paid DLC towards us in a game that lacks content.

Remember Evolve? That game got shit on for many reasons. This game literally has a quarter of the content that game has. Evolve also was close to reaching a balance that was ‘fair’ for professional league matches. Can you imagine? Predator Hunting grounds tournaments? With the bugs this game has? No chance.

Asymetric games are my favorite genre, but it is VERY rare to play one that is legitimately fun and has an audience that backs it. The reason the forum is dying, is because the game is dying and the devs are not listening.

Cause and reason.

If you don’t fix your broken dam, don’t be surprised if everyone living there moves away and you will never get the budget you need to fix it. If you fix it too late, there won’t be anyone there to enjoy it. The smart man will question if the patch will hold, because with this team… “you never know”.

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#57

is not dying, is taking a “break” there is not much more to talk about…we all know already what are the bugs, what are the problems etc etc…
to talk again and again about same topics is just killing time.
we all i guess have something else to do and not only talking about a game u know :))

#58

They will, manage you own expectations cause things will get better.

#59

COD MW is a much better game anyways.

#60

I come back sparingly in the week to check updates hoping for a new map. Like 100% thats all it would take to bring me back for a week or two for decent game time.

Rainbow 6, while the same grindhouse, has way more variety to play with so I always fall back.

Modern warfare 2 story mode was the free game this month and Fallguys (which is just dumb fun with friends)

Most of the people I played with have a backlog of games or games with more content that needs to be played.

Most if not all, die hard predator fans. We wanted this game, we played through the beta, stuck through the launch pains, patch pains but at certain points we just gotta give it up.

You can only run the same 5 roles, 20 weapons, 5 OBJs on 3 maps so many times before you’re repeating the same motions bored outta your mind.

But all we can do is wait, hope devs are actually trying.

There’s way better games to play with more fulfilling content out right now.

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#61

Say no more fam, thats all I need to know to check out