So my argument is this…
Yes a macro cannot exceed the limits of the game. So you can’t fire faster than the game allows or tap out of a net faster. However, you are removing the human element. I can click a mouse as fast as anyone but I can’t do it consistently 100% of the time. I don’t care if the fastest mouse clicker can consistently hit that rate. Not everyone playing can and they can’t do it every time. That’s why you use it so, by removing the human element, you’re removing errors that could occur as a result and thus now have an unfair advantage over someone else. I apply this logic equally to turbo controllers as well and it’s just my opinion on the matter.
About macros
No, you’re removing inconsistency.
Which…is the human element? Humans are inconsistent hence why we use machines to be more consistent?
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Well, it can be argued because a human is the one playing the game, not a robot.
Alright but the point is you’re still removing inconsistencies otherwise normally present which provides you an advantage.
Net break for example too. If I can one touch command a macro to break the net, my focus isn’t on smashing out of the net my focus is now fully on the pred and being ready to engage
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People here seem to have an issue with the most “innocent” turbo macro in the game which deals no damage, does not protect you from getting killed because still takes two full seconds with trapper to get out, and it’s only used once in a blue moon because hardly anyone uses the net. But most here are ok with all these “bugged” loadouts, super damage exploits, and preds doing all their fuckery with macros.
I am absolutely not okay with any of that. Bugged loadouts are an exploit. Assault Dualist or Hunter Stalker should absolutely not be a thing and I don’t condone it. I’ve said before just because you can break the game doesn’t mean it’s okay to do so.
In the end if you have a macro and you’re using it to circumvent game mechanics designed to challenge, I don’t think that’s right. Your net macro is a good example. The net is not seen often so it may not be a big deal but, playing on Keyboard and mouse it is absolutely a huge advantage as it’s a lot easier to one touch your macro then start moving to avoid damage, or like I said now you have nothing dividing your attention and can completely focus on the pred. Meanwhile, me without macros over here trying to wasd my ass to safety while tapping interact, am a lot less focused on the pred and having a harder time getting free
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Mine? You mean I’m the only one who has the balls to admit to using it, while there are many others who clearly use it, but deny it and are suddenly the world’s fastest clickers.
I’ve never used a bugged loadout, nor do I use exploits. I think it’s hypocritical for people to come here and complain about something so stupid as the net macro while they are out there swapping weapons in crates for extra damage or going out of the map to heal. I think it’s safe to assume that nobody in this forum has the right to complain about a stupid net macro because I think most are guilty of using exploits to gain some sort of advantage.
But if you want to smash your keyboard to death, that’s your prerogative.
Don’t take it personal…you brought up the example so that’s the context of “your” in that case. Wasn’t meant to say you’re the only one or that you even invented the thing.
Agree the scavenger is a bug/exploit…out of map heal absolutely an exploit (I’ve done by accident because I’m usually just frantically looking for a safe space). You’re probably right that a lot of players abuse bugs and exploits and I don’t agree with any of it personally. We’re not discussing them because the thread is literally titled “About Macros”.
End of the day, it’s not like I can do anything about it. I’m just sharing my opinion on why I feel they’re wrong. Take it for what it’s worth which isn’t much to begin with but this is where I stand on the subject and why. I don’t make the rules, I don’t enforce them, so it really doesn’t mean much what I think about it does it?
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but the thing is only one gun can benefit from the “inconsistency”… literally only one.
I am able to tap ONE THUMB BUTTON and get out of the net almost as fast as the macro, without any practice. If I bind THE TWO KEYBINDS THE GAME ALLOWS ME TO USE (interact, jump/interact) I can get just as fast, without any effort or practice.
For any other weapon than the grimtech, anyone, and I mean anyone, can click faster than the fire rate of any of the semi-auto weapons. No effort. The 1011 shoots about 8 bullets per second. If you can’t click 8 times per second consistently… well… you clearly started playing on PC just a while ago. Those are easy numbers.
So you see, I am using macros (really, I only use it for the netgun and the weapon switch, for the bug fix we already discussed) just to save the button life on my mouse. Nobody is gonna buy me a new one if I break it. So fuck it.
You’re right, but the way I see it is people here are hypocritical af so fuck them!
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Can’t argue that
Bro this is how much I don’t want to use bugged loadouts, I have the files, all I have to do is copy and paste, but I just don’t want to. I have no problem with people who are experimenting with them or having fun with them, because maybe that’s what the game needs, more variety. But me personally, I’m not playing this game as much anymore to even bother with bugs or exploits. I still rely on my basic skills, nothing more.
So if someone sees me escape the net in two seconds or less, they can eat my ass.
So, I’ve already pretty much made my opinion and stance on all of that clear and I’m not retyping it because I’ve put a lot out already lol.
It’s not the macro itself that’s bad, it’s the intent and design I disagree with. A macro is a tool like any other however.
That pretty much sums it all up there. Like I said nothing anyone can do about it anyway
Edit: Well…bitch and moan but that’s gonna happen anyway and isn’t very productive
and about exploits… we have a discord dedicated to find all the bugs on the game. The amount of exploits is ridiculous. You know how many times I’ve seen preds slam in place, purposely?
I honestly don’t give a fuck. Everyone, PC or console, will use everything they can at their disposal to make their game easier to win, whether they admit it or not. And I am not that good, so I will too, until I get bored of winning with ease
Yeah, and that’s like telling a construction worker they have to use a shovel to dig a hole and not a digger, because that’s “cheating”
illfonic nerfed it already, before you could literally escape instantly, now it takes two or more seconds with trapper to get out.
I disagree with that analogy. More like handing one guy a shovel and the other guy a backhoe and then paying them the same and telling then go home when they’re done. Someone is getting more for less work
As someone who works in a field that requires a lot of physical work… I would bludgeon someone who came up to me and say I shouldn’t be using power tools or excavators.
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