I think something that should be done to balance the game play would be too have the AI do more damage to the predator it doesn’t make much sense when fighting 10 or 15 guys that the predator can just walk in and kill the fireteam with out even having to worry about the 10 or 15 guys shooting him the fireteam gets ripped apart when overwhelmed which happens often and then the predator just walks in with no worries I know this because I’ve done it or maybe make the fireteam alittle bit more powerful against the AI the perk barely makes a difference and starting with less ammo isn’t helping I have personally set the alarm off as the predator and just stood there and watched the fireteam get beat up real bad I really do think the best possible solution would be to have the predator take more damage from the AI it would keep it fair and still fun what are your thoughts
AI is way to unbalanced
They actually do alot of damage but only when you’re not cloaked. As long as your cloaked they’ll primarily go for fireteam and shoot you a little bit. But if you uncloak the ai ignores the fireteams and literally will melt you and they’re really accurate shooting the pred in trees or wherever lol
The Fireteam is OP enough as it is, leave the Predator alone. Also, one guy can deal with the A.I while the other 3 handle the Predator. The A.I are stationary target practice already, if anything they should get a buff against the FT.
No. I disagree.
I play as both sides alot not every match is the same but sometimes the AI is overwhelming but you wouldn’t know this as the predator because he takes next to no damage from the AI which makes no sense I’ve been killed as the fireteam by the AI and I will never and I mean never be killed by the AI as the predator even with 10 or more guys all firing at me at the same time I just walk right past them and rip the fireteams heads I can get 4 long claims before iam even worried about my health and I only really played as the hunter it just doesn’t make sense to me
Common trash A.I should be able to kill the Predator? Not only is that thematically wrong but from a gameplay perspective, the A.I is there for the FT as a distraction and an anti-turtling mechanic, that’s it. Anything more will take away from the intended gameplay of 1 vs 4.
But it’s not 4 vs 1 the predator has an army backing him up as far as I see it iam not saying it should kill or rip him apart but maybe he shouldn’t be able to kill the whole fire team and make 4 long claims and then just stand there and not worry about a thing while taking fire from a rather large squad I have done this and found it to be unfair to the fire team unless it’s a scout but even then all you have to do is walk away with a bit of health missing but mostly I just stand there I get that predator can and should use this to his advantage it’s cool but it should still be a concern and have some sort of consequences if hes not smart I find it makes it to easy but that might just be me who knows
Eh, the only damage to the Predator should come from the Fireteam because the game, in it’s current state, is so unbalanced in the FT’s favour. The A.I was only put in the game as a way to occupy the FT and chip at their health, otherwise they would always be looking out for the Predator that they’re not even supposed to know exists until they see it for the first time.
I don’t mind the Predator tanking bullets from the A.I as they make their claims because the people who punish the Predator for doing that have already lost. That would be such a cheap and lame way to lose as a Predator and not in line with an asymmetrical shooter experience.
hunter is not immortal and ai doing low dmg if 8-10 or more ai around means x8-10 or more dmg
so make sense there is nothing wrong with it…
I am not trying to say the predator should lose that way I dont think he should get ripped apart by the AI… I for one dont agree with the game being unbalanced in favor of the fireteam that’s so inaccurate maybe the berserker is op but he can be killed if the fireteam works together but that’s what they should be doing the fire team is based on coop and working together so it makes sense that when they work together they can win it’s up to the predator to separate them isolate them pick them apart which is not to hard to do if you know the game and how to work with each class… traps, net gun, etc, etc, I find if you play the game the way it was meant to be play it’s fair on both sides I will admit the scout is kinda weak but hes good for certain playstyles and still can win if you know how to work the team over which again is the way it should be, hes for people who like a challenge I’ve faced really good fireteams and won with every pred class and faced really bad fireteams and lost only because I made a bad choice are did something stupid trying to melee your way to victory is one of the worst choices you can make never rush the fireteam if you haven’t softened the fireteam up you have to be patient and tactical no matter what class you pic forget what you’ve seen in the movie’s a game based on the movies would be ridiculous and never work illfonic has made good choices for the game and playstyles needed, the way people complain about the predators is a joke they just need to realize it’s a game based on predator not a game based on the movies if you think the predators are too weak I hate to break it to you it’s you not the game if you are struggling with the predators after the new patch then I am afraid your always going to struggle stop complaining about it and go play a different game this game is not for you I dont get why everyone expects illfonic to simply hand them easy victories with the predator it’s not that hard as is I will admit that playing with randoms as the fireteam can be hard not always being on the same page people walk off to do god knows what or kids that don’t know what’s going on but that’s all I play with all randoms no mic and I still dont have any problems as the I would love to actually have my buddies in this game that might be too easy as the fireteam maybe that’s what some people are running into but that’s part of the game it’s not always gonna be a bunch of randoms which again is why you shouldn’t just rush in I feel that this game is plagued by gamers who want to do as little as possible for the win which illfonic should be careful about
sure, i hope they up the damage from the AI as well…against everything, especially the fireteam
At the very least keep it even they keep adding to the predator and taking away from the fireteam it’s just gonna end up a mess the first patch was good enough now with the second patch its get I think a little too one side I dont think the predators should be weak enough too be killed one on one but the fireteam should be able to kill it together easily when working as a team it shouldn’t take 2 or 3 clips from each member while predators can down each guy in 2 or 3 hits
I’m saying it’s unbalanced in favour of the Fireteam, as in, the Fireteam is ridiculously OP. The Predator needs a buff still.
The AI before any damage buff are even thought about, needs a more sophisticated brain and network of nodes.
Right now it has few things.
#1 - Shoot FT, they do like 1-2 damage with some increase depending on which and what weapon. They even miss before they land a shot.
#2 - Pred is cloaked they’re fucking brain dead. You can cloak dead in front of them and they’ll stop. Brain dead.
If he’s visible they will shoot the shit out of him and if you get overtly cocky, it’ll add up enough to fuck you up or let stronger guns peice you out. Throw FT shots into the mix and Preds AI friends are only useful if he’s in trees and unseen. Melee breaks cloak often because of this kind of stuff.
If you really wanna talk about balancing AI, make them have a slew of reactions and behavior. From actually investigation, screaming for help when they see the forest move. Radios for help, scouting, patrols. Something the tells anyone like FT over hearing it that Preds nearby or somewhere else looking. Reactions to seeing something jumping in the trees and suddenly its gone.
Cover and suppression tatics, flash and cover, grenade flush outs against FT, ambushes, Snipers in the trees or more lookouts. Patrols that actually report.
The network mesh of their movements and navigation needs massive rework for any improvements.
The AI is a pest, and easily dealt with by everyone right now. Stuff gets hectic in the fray but their brainless job right now - to provided easy XP and points, gore and something to shoot at.
Why? If you still think the predator needs a buff your doing something wrong it’s you not the game no offense the predator is fine I play as the fireteam more because iam finding the predator to easy and almost boring it’s hard to lose unless your sloppy and I only play as the hunter and scout are you on pc or ps4
Berserker is Overpowered. Ft some weapons are just junk and need more dmg.
Get the hell out here…
I ran into a… peculiar instance earlier today @Bushidobrandon.
We queue into in Backwater and I pick my '87 Hunter. I match against a pretty good oriented Fireteam. We exchanged a few Engagements where I downed a couple and they got me very close to second wind. I finally get the advantage and drop in after patching up, taking two out where they get my Health down to about 40%
Then the remaining two separate. I take out the one outside by the Dish Building. As I turn around, I see the remaining Straggler’s Claim Icon inside the larger, two story Structure. Easy!!
So when I run in and try to Claim, I failed to realize that there were about 10 AI Grunts shooting. I was then melted as the Claim Animation was about half way through. Not only was I kinda surprised that this actually happened, but it was funny to see nobody survive.
The AI isn’t terribly difficult. If you play your cards right and actually coordinate, you can easily take every AI Grunt out before a single peep is made. The AI is only a problem when they gang up on you (as the Predator) or when they distract you while trying to complete an Objective (obviously as a Fireteam).
The AI only becomes a problem when you’re not focusing on everything overall. I’ve faced too many Players who make the novice mistake of rushing an Objective: the Alarm goes off, making it easier for me to use the noise and extra AI Grunts to my advantage.
I mostly play Fireteam and I melt Predators with randoms over 90% of the time- I just recently took a loss after a 26-game winning streak. Aside from my own personal experience, my friends and many Fireteam mains who frequent this forum have had similar experiences. The Predator is still a huge joke and I can’t speak to your experiences but I can confidently say you are in the minority if you’re walking through Fireteams as you claim.
I’m sorry but like in any shooter, there are meta weapons, so I recommend using those and you should experience more success.
When I hear, “Berserker is overpowered”, I know I’m talking to a player who hasn’t experienced a level of play above average at best so I respectfully and staunchly disagree with your assessment.