Calm the fuck down. Answer the question otherwise we’ll get nowhere.
Axe Rebalancing Discussion
His cloak dumbass uses energy too duh or have you not even played this game
It’s a yes or no question.
Dont need a whole explanation just yet.
You mean a specific class or in general?
I been calm this whole time. Sew People wanna make up lies to overlook my actual suggestions. Stull havent even addressed one of the changes and aparently it somehow be unfair cause it will take predator of easy mode and require actual skill in Their playtgroughs the only thing predator has to do is know when to pull away from the fireteam. The rest is easy.
In general of course for predator. If it was one or two classes then i would put that. The changes i suggested have nothing to do with the seperate classes anyways
Look man I just need a simple yes or no.
I’m not trolling you or trying to.
Because what you wanna do, determines how we go from here.
Again if your not actually gonna address the changes suggested and create actual counter arguments and not insults like a child. ill need to seek elsewhere for a intelligent adult conversation on the topic to better the game. It was a simple answer i have repeated numerous times. Its really not that hard to understand but i guess my suggestions hurt predator only players feelings, so wont find it here aparently
You’re the one being immature. And honestly just a bit rude for no reason right now.
I’m asking you, nicely, for a simple yes or no.
No tricks, no troll.
Because if you care this much. Then you can jump Into a psn party, or if your a pc player, then a discord call, and we can actually discuss it.
Because that will be way faster than me or you typing a bunch of shit on here.
The only reason I’m suggesting this to you is because you keep bringing it up.
It’s up to you.
But if you’re not willing to actually sit down and have a discussion about this with me, then it shows you dont actually care.
You wanna talk about this?
Fine man. Then let’s do it.
Please decide quickly tho, because if you dont want to, then theres something I wanna do.
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Oh so you will type out paragraphs on this responding to me. but you wont even type out comments that actually address my changes. Wow so now you say you will only address the actual changes i suggested if and only if i get on discord which i neither have or want hahaha. Wow aparently its too hard for your counter arguements to be typed on here where you seem to have no issues responding on. You dont want the conversation or aparently have counter arguements to my suggestion. Otherwise you would of just typed them. Immature? I have been sticking to the facts. You and the rest of the predator only fans only got complaining and insults. No one has actually addressed my suggestions, only that aparently the meer thought of balancing the game and giving both sides the same options the other side has triggers you all. Hahahahaha yah real mature dude
I’m going to attempt this one last time.
Do you want to actually discuss this?
If so, are you on psn, or pc?
I’m willing to sit down and have this discussion with you. But you gotta meet me halfway here.
We can talk here. Go ahead ill wait for the counter arguements Or is it still to much to address them with actual counter arguements on here?
I dont even know your suggestions.
I was willing to listen to them, but you dont want to actually have a discussion.
You accuse me of being immature, yet here you are, throwing a tantrum to have it your way, and rudely refusing my offer to do what you keep crying that you want to do.
So not only are you immature, you’re also antisocial.
Stop acting like you’re more important than everyone.
All I told you, the only thing, was that pred healing wont carry him through a good team.
Then you took offense to that and came at me.
Anyway. If you actually care, and want to discuss things with people, be willing to actually sit down and do so.
Otherwise you just look like you dont actually care and only want to yell at people.
See exactly you won’t even have the conversation because you apparently can talk all day long on this but you won’t even address any of the ones that I made above I’m not gonna fucking say him again because I’ve already had to repeat myself like 20 times with you. If you want to go see My suggestions then look above all these comments there’s some of the 1st comments I make on this article. But I can see you don’t wanna have the conversation because apparently you’re able to talk all day on this But you will only address the counter arguments if I go to some very specific place to have The conversation. How about we haven’t on here so everyone can see the conversation you apparently want to go somewhere else because you don’t want to get your shit rocked Is it actually a real argument. Cause again you still haven’t addressed any of them and now you’re complaining about shiabout shit that you haven’t even apparently read. This clearly shows how triggered you are You’re just an immature little child who doesn’t know how to actually discuss anything like a rational adult. I mean seriously I make like 6 different suggestions of game change And you can’t even make one single counter argument to either 1 of them or about why that wouldn’t work you literally are just whining now that you can’t actually create a counter argument unless you go to a very specific place Which is Suspiciously away from this article where we’re literally discussing discussing it so that people can’t see what we talked about. How about your quit Dancing around the Subject and actually address the changes I Suggested like an adult. I’m going to have a conversation here so that everyone can see it. I have never said I was more important than everyone else Nor have I yelled at anyone. I’ve just stated facts this whole time So quit lying
This is a location for discussing. I’m not going to get on discord where no one can see our conversation. But seriously I’m not stopping you go ahead and make those counter arguments right here where everyone can see that way everyone can join in on it. I’m not stopping you It’s really not that hard To type in your counter arguments as been proven both by me and by your constant responding. So I know you have the capability of having the discussion here. What is stopping you?
I said the “Best” Team, not just a team that knows what they are doing.
I don’t feel a need to justify anything because you clearly aren’t as experienced or knowledgeable as you make out to be. I can almost guarantee that you only play public matches against potato Fireteam players who cant aim and so it doesn’t matter what class they are using they are still going to die. Hence why you think Dante isn’t overpowered. If you played against an Elite Fireteam in a Private Match I doubt you’d last 3 or 4 minutes. You’d definitely change your perspective then.
Look, I’m not even that good as Fireteam and I can do this crap:
There is also not a single bad Fireteam class in the game. Meanwhile there are at least 3 or 4, maybe even 5 Predators who are just complete suicide to play against some of the best Fireteams in the game.
DLCs yes, buffs, definitely not.
Of the 4 Fireteam DLCs, 2 of them are considered Overpowered (Dutch 87 and Dante) and they haven’t been nerfed once. Ever. No matter how many times we blatantly show you how brain dead easy they are to use. Meanwhile whenever the Predators have had DLCs come out that we’re considered OP, the Fireteam mains whine and cry about it and straight away Illfonic nerfed the City Hunter, straight away they nerfed the Valkyrie. And in the game’s current state, they wouldn’t even be overpowered right now.
Anyway, what’s your ingame name and do you play on PS4/5, Steam, or PC?
So you say that the predator can only be killed killed if he faces the best team out there not a good team literally you’re saying that the predator can only lose if hes facing the best team that’s more of a argument for my side than yours buddy. Dante isnt overpowered cause his class abilities and specializations suck in comparison to other classes. If he had better passive abilities and specializations then maybe youd have arguement but he doesnt. Like if he had the deadly then he would just be a OP assault class but he doesnt. He is like mid between suppport and assault in stats he aint even the strongest class. You must not play fireteam a lot. Id say 2/3 and im being generous are potatoe fireteams. Im 98 percent of the time doing all the missions and still doing the highest damage to the predator. Most dont even mud up they just run around and dont help their team at all they are more worried about picking up all the purple money then playing the game. Both dante and dutch been nerfed several times. Now I’ll extend an Olive branch and definitely agree with you that they were OP when they 1st came out. But yeah it wasn’t too long before illphonic out out nerfs for the classes.
You’re the one that keeps demanding, not asking, that I respond to your suggestions, even tho I barely do that for anyone now a days.
Frankly from what I’ve seen, your suggestions might not even be good.
I dont know because I havent seen them.
You call me immature.
You keep saying this and that.
Tell me, how is it fair to me, that you keep DEMANDING I respond to what you want, and when I finally agree, because you seem to care do much, you refuse because it’s not in the way YOU want it?
I’m showing you some courtesy by even agreeing to this because it’s something I dont even do anymore.
And you want others to see what we talk about?
Steam the conversation!
I honestly don’t care if you do!
I’m not trying to hide it, I just wanna do it faster.
And pay attention to this last part cause it’s very important.
THE REASON MOST OF US DONT TALK ABOUT IDEAS AND FEEDBACK ANYMORE IS BECAUSE NO MATTER HOW HARD WE TRIED, HOW RESPECTFUL WE WERE, ILLFONIC IGNORED US. IT FEELS SHITTY THAT EVEN THO MANY IF US GREATLY CARED ABOUT THIS GAME AND WANTED IT TO SUCCEED WE HAD TO DEAL WITH ILLFONIC IGNORING US AND DRAGGING THIS GAME TO RUIN
do you understand that?
I WAS ONE OF THE PEOPLE THAT DID THE MOST THAT I COULD AS A PLAYER TO TRY AND MAKE SURE THIS GAME REACHED ITS POTENTIAL.
I WANTED IT TO SUCCEED.
That’s why I dont like talking about this shit anymore.
Because it was a pretty huge blow that despite all my effort, and all the other good people who tried to save this game, ilfonic just shit all over that.
But DESPITE that, I was still willing to sit down with you and discuss your ideas.
Anyway, that’s what stops me from doing it here.
If I respond to moralez anyone else about ideas or anything its because it’s a special case.
We’ve spoken at length before.
You on the other hand?
I dont remember seeing you there joining the conversations.
Anyway. Now you know.
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I havent demanded anything all my suggestions have been just that. The only thing I have demanded from you is that you act like an adult and actually create counter arguments to my suggestions not insults and whining. You already confirmed that you haven’t even read what you’re whining about. You just jumped on the cry baby bandwagon because your soul and probably somebody else’s comment that this guy is trying to create suggestions for East questions for game balancing And giving both sides the same options. You still haven’t even kept addressed Any of the arguments I have made. Instead you’re trying to get me to go away from this discussion platform to go to discord so that way you can hide getting your ass handed to you in this argument. Cause you still have not created any accountant arguments. You have simply behaved like a child. Yes you are very immature Because you can’t act like an adult that’s the definition of a Immature child. You’ve been demanding that I go to discord so that you can have the discussion because you want to hide But we talk about. Again I’m not stopping you go ahead do the counter arguments right here on this discussion so everyone can see. I’m waiting… Any day now. Literally nothing is stopping you for actually creating some sort of explanation for why the suggestions that I have said above above can’t be changed. Or wide more options shouldn’t be given To the fire team. You haven’t cause you don’t have an argument. People can see the conversation just fine on here we don’t need to go to steam or discord. And have it right here just like we’re having right now so what is stopping you? And yes I will agree ill phonic should have listened to their customer base a lot more this game could have been really amazing. Frankly my biggest issue with it is that it didn’t come with a single player. I would have loved to have seen a single player devote devoted entirely around Dutch 2025. Voice by Arnold and everything maybe get some really great story is the great story and cut scenes with it. But that’s not what we’re talking about here.
No, I’m saying that 90% of the games player base that you say you beat so easily are players who cant even shoot the Predator with hitscan or reinforce their team.
Also I am making the connection with the Best Fireteam in the game because I have managed to beat them and you haven’t. So hence you’re living in a dream world because you are so used to killing 6 year olds who just bought the game 10 minutes ago on their Dad’s PlayStation because one time they saw their dad watching Predator.
Just one good player in a team with 3 randoms is enough to give the average Predator a problem. Let alone 4.
He literally has Field Medic and Fanatic which is bugged so that you don’t even have to be on low health to get the speed and damage boost. He can literally have an effective health of around 600-800 from health, damage reductions, perks, and syrettes and don’t compare that to Predator healing because the Predator has to run half a mile away to heal for an eternity while the Fireteam just have to tap a button and pretty much instantly get 100 health back, and they can do it on the run whilst jumping over a staircase and no-scoping the Predator.
And no, Dutch 87 and Dante have never been nerfed once.
I play Fireteam a fair bit and I’ve had the pleasure of playing against some of the best Predators in the game, with the best Fireteams in the game, and also in publics against some of the most braindead players you have ever seen. I am not even that good and I can solo a Predator and put up 6000 damage in normal matches.
Allow me to demonstrate:
I prefer to play Predator because I am better as Predator and Fireteam is very boring unless playing in private matches against a good Predator, and most of the public match Predators don’t even find you until you activate the exfil, and when they do, you can put them in second wind before they even hit you once with their wrist blades.