Balancing

#1

To my genuine surprise, the game is… Balanced. The only problem I have with the way the game currently stands is the overuse of plasma caster builds and Field Medic builds. Shouldn’t be able to revive peeps in 1 second. Honestly, that’s all I have a problem with.

You may disagree, but really, just because you get fucking swiss cheesed by a FT for rushing with melee doesn’t mean the game is imbalanced. You got punished for being a retard and that’s that.

As far as balancing goes, here’s my idea going forward.

Increase the amount of energy the caster takes up with charged shots. The dependency on certain builds revolving around the caster is not only annoying but takes little skill to use. It’s a fair win button, to be certain. Hide behind a wall, charge to a certain point, peak, and release. Several times. Works almost every time. It’s very difficult to avoid these massive bolts of plasma and they just keep coming, leaving FT little time to counter, unless they want a mouth full of pain.

As for Field Medic, increase the amount of time required to revive people as Field Medic. Since it takes about 3 seconds to rez with just FM, I think it should be left alone. That’s fair enough and allows the Predator to punish in that time frame. Dexterous, however, revives peeps in one second. Either increase the time required to rez by one second with Dexterous or remove the bonus Dexterous gives to rezzing entirely. Leave it able to increase interaction times for everything else.

The plethora of FM’s running around currently is… To say the least, unfair. Yes, it’s possible to take them down by focusing on them, I won’t argue with that. It’s still a problem, though. Even if you focus on the Medic, with a premade team, you’re going to have to melt them before they even see you coming. With premades, sticking together will make this very difficult, outside of the jungle. But even then, it’s not as bad as four flockin’ FM’s. That’s just ridiculous. Ain’t really a way to fix that without restricting class stacking.

That’s all I have to say for now, please gimme your thoughts so we can bang this out and give Illfonic the feedback they need to help us. Help me, help them, help us, help me, help them.

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#2

So melee shouldn’t be viable at all.
Everyone hates pred melee.

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#3

They wont listen,
And no man, the game is not balanced.

1 person with a single clip able to sw pred is not balance.

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#4

Wow its almost like these are used because they’re the best tools in the game. Because they’re not balanced.

Contrary to OP everyone using the same 3 builds is by definition unbalanced. And if you feel everyones entitled to have time to react in a stealth asyim thats a whole different issue because by that logic pred cant be rewarded for headshots either. A 4v1 balanced for 1v1s is a joke especially when there are no mechanics in place to naturally split up a group minus splash damage.

Something will always be meta and overused especially when the vast majority of preds weapons are a joke and he’s got 3 different variations of a warclub that you will never see used.

Same people that said combistick was skilless move to the next thing to complain about, the caster, the bow because now the pred is playing too passively and just poking and running away yadda yadda.
Do tell what’s “skillful” enough to match FT hovering mouse over the pred for 3 seconds with the highest DPS weapons in the game because everyone would love to hear it. How is what pred is doing any easier than what FT is doing when he has projectile weapons with travel time?
What is a skillful pred to you if you think melee is brainless and poking with ranged weapons are also skillless? A headshot with the wrist launcher?

Face it this game has no skill ceiling. You aren’t going to get the skill expression you’re looking for, it’s not CS:GO so if you can point at things a few seconds on either side you win. Every pred is basically the same now that he can’t bother getting close you don’t even see the bow and plasma pistol bunnyhoppers anymore. There’s somehow less gameplay variety than there was at launch lol.

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#5

You should have to use everything in your arsenal otherwise what’s the point of even equipping those weapons

Maybe if you only take one weapon in then it gets a buff?

#6

Youd create ppl running around with one shot pc.

#7

No one said anything about reverting back to one shot PC

I was implying that we need more control over our loadouts

#8

I agree but this falls along the lines of the game needing a rework.

Most people would do tho.
I know I would.
Only go blades and pc.
Nothing else.
Would amplify the damage.

And if it didnt one shot, then this new function would be kinda useless.

I’d love to sacrifice a weapon and gear slots for more perk points and slots tho.

Idk man, shits a mess to try to balance.
As is anyway.

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#9

I mean only one weapon btw

So plasma caster only

Wristblades only

Etc

#10

Then it would really have to one shot.

But I dont think those two should be able to be removed.

#11

People didnt think chocolate would blend with peanut butter either until…

#12

Objectively shit weapons with no niche exist because of bad game design and poor balancing. Same as powercreep.

There’s no actual point to them other than to intentionally gimp yourself but I guess OP would say its balanced if everyone just willingly gimps themselves with lower damage weapons.

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#13

I’m not saying dont let it be a thing, but it would have to add a like 150% to 200% damage increase otherwise theres no point.
At all.

Suppose it would also have to increase health a defense too.

#14

Well, Fire, if the pred is dumb enough to let them hit you with 45 rounds, that’s on them. You’re not supposed to walk around and stay idle. You gotta move. Leap frog if you have to. I main pred and know better than to sit still for more than two seconds.

#15

What if you could trade your cloak for heavy armor and bigger guns?

Etc

#16

That… Doesn’t sound like a bad idea… Although there would have to be a counter for that like everything else.

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#17

Yes everything needs a counter of some kind for balance

#18

Cool so since we’ve established stealth actually isnt a factor here then poking your head from around a corner dropping people with caster shots like its an arena shooter should be no problem then?

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#19

Yes and no.
Cause I agree to a certain extent, but right now melee is beyond pointless.

Ft does way too much damage for it to be viable.
This being the case,
Theres only one style to use.
Which is range.

If only one thing is viable, then there is no balance.
But eeeeeeeveryone seems to hate pred melee.

Which makes me sad cause now theres only one effective way to play and it’s boring.
I like mixing it up and now. It’s not an option.

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#20

Can’t have your cake and eat it. Do you think pred should be firing from full invis or playing leapfrog instead?