I’m starting to see the meta here, and it’s quite sad, it seems the fireteam win almost every time unless the predator is a berserker with a combi stick. I saw someone suggest only allowing the scout to have a combi stick, which I think is a little harsh, I’d suggest just not allowing the berserker to have one, as he or she can just completely obliterate a full fireteam in a matter of seconds, whereas a scout or a hunter (usually) has to mix it up with traps and ranged weapons first before going in for the melee attacks, which I’ve noticed can be deflected by fireteam players with a knife, which is excellent, and I’ve had a couple of truly excellent games as both the fireteam and the predator where I and other players have managed to deflect the combi stick whilst other players shoot the predator, however this is futile when faced with a berserker who has a combi stick (most of the time). Overall I’m definitely enjoying the game and my only real requests are that at least some trees get given an extra level so as to give predators somewhere to hide against experienced fireteam players, predator’s cloak to get a serious buff, the framerate for the fireteam to be improved, and the berserker to be unable to use the combi stick. Also adding the predators from the film “predators” as well as their armour/helmets as skins would be a nice touch in my opinion, maybe they could even get their own class/weapons with drones and dogs.
Berserker+Combi stick = win (mostly) - likes, gripes and a suggestion or two
I feel cheated when a Combistick Berserker goes Kamikaze (lamest tactic ever). I also feel cheated as the predator in every way possible
is the berserker really that bad? or have players just not found a way to deal with it yet? I only play the predator but haven’t tried the Beserker yet. I do pretty well with just the hunter.
I think it is mainly the players knowledge on the fire team that can win it or loose it for the predator and it is a little to early to tell what is overpowered. Now are some things more obvious than others atm lol yes. I will have to try the beserker out and see for myself.
I do however like the idea of classes having unique equipment or abilities to help add more character to them. Or maybe even special armor just for that class other than the base models.
At the moment the only way to survive as a predator is either hunter + bow camping or berserker + combistick rush. Filled out JubPred’s form moments ago, think he covered alot of problems in his post.
As for knifeparry… If not even Dutch can fistfight a Predator hunter you can’t block their insanely armor piercing weapons with a butterknife. Its a silly addition to the already overpowered Fireteam loadout.
But you did touch on something I agree with and would put in another way: Why have classes if everyone can have access to everything?
(( As long as illfonic don’t give the Scout Predator the speargun from Alien vs Predator 2 ))
It’s not the Beserk class bro it’s the combi-nation of the combi stick and beserk, as the beserk ganks all the bullets and the combistick takes Tanky classes in like four hits and weaker classes in less. When you play look out for combi users, you will probably lose unless your whole team manages to kill him which I doubt they will. Also added note the Beserk class doesn’t seem slow at all :) if it was a 1 like it says I’m sure it would be fine but he still catches up to you and moves very quickly!
Think you should try out the Pred classes and compare, because thats what its compared too, other pred classes. Predators are not supposed to be slow. Compared to Scout and Hunter, Berserker is slow.
Beserker should be even slower and drain more stamina while swing spamming
Just parry his attacks.
It’s not difficult at all and doesn’t require a nerf.
I respect your response man but it takes a while to find predator games as I’m sure you already know. I’m also sure it’s not just me who has over 10 minute queue times for the predator, so the testing part is difficult. I’m talking about how quickly the Beserk can cover a small distance In such a small amount of time, sure he can’t run as fast but paired with the combi stick he’s broken. It’s another option on how to nerf the combo anyway! You can still be tough to verse if the class was slower you’d just have to be more tactical which is what the games about!
You can always host a private game yourself and try shit out, its easy but there are alot of things that needs tweaking, doesnt help that I suspect that the majority of players queue for Predators so it takes a hell of alot longer for us to find games that way, since there is only 1 slot for every match.
I’ve played alot more fireteam then Predator myself and so far even with combistick my experience doesnt tell me it needs nerfing, things just need to balance out, we gank Berserkers with combistick like there is no tomorrow when me and my mate plays even when we go 2 vs pred, so perhaps you just had a unlucky streak, happens to me too. But its a shame your experience of the game is bad, stuff like this drives people away, big shame.
Yeah you’re probably right, I’ve had games too where I’ve 2 teamed a predator, I read somewhere that maybe we haven’t found a way to counter it yet, I’ll keep playing and doing some testing. Might just be a losing streak like you said.
Doubt I’ll stop playing, rewatched and finished watching all the movies with my brother and he enjoys it a lot too so it’s a great way to bond. Loving the game a lot through all its bugs.
Good hunting mate, hope the streak ends, those wins are tough to get but really feel great. Here’s to hoping they balance the game more so we don’t get stuck with meta builds, gets so boring so fast.
I actually found the Berserk + combi the only way to play him. You cant play him ranged cause of his size he moves to slow and is just way to big to not notice. But on my zerker i even run combi/ net gun with Impenetrable,fearless, and hanging on. So i have even more tankyness then normal and even that was hard to heal with parring fire teams. Had 2 of them just running around with there knife out when they seen how I’m melee build. i would pull the stick out and they would run to me with knifes out. while the others would light me up. Even if i managed to kill 1 or 2 and quick claim they would be right back in a min cause the reinforcement call in. To which i would lose cause they would just finish the objective and evac out. So when playing with evenly matched players who know how to play the predator also I lose. So i dont see a meta at call. I actually have more wins as my scout+bow+ SC build with down range, lightbender, and energy cell. All i do is jump from tree to tree getting different angles and kill them. Find the sniper if there is one and take him out fast and the rest is easy. I wont even claim them some times just finish them off. So beserker is fine imo.
Get rid of the knife and give the fire team primary secondary and a sidearm. We’ve been discussing the issue on another thread. Lots of salt. Not saying I have answers, just think that there needs to be a better class system, with the classes actually getting a perk or two just for them. Example, scout is quieter and more deadly with bow e.g. one hit downs or headshot kills. Hunter gets tree rope traps to hang fire team upside down, berserker gets rage or something along those lines.
It’s only been 4 days. We all have great hopes for the game. Fingers crossed the devs are reading all this and know we’re thanking them for a good platform to start with.
Fire teams should be limited on weapons per class so it’s not just a mini gun/grenade launcher fest with 20 health packs total.
Thoughts?
Agreed, I feel completely empty playing as a berserker with a combi stick, no sense of achievement what so ever.
I believe the berserker really is that bad, yes.
I’d have to disagree, I’ve been having great success as a hunter with a bow and a combi stick combination, with traps he’s especially lethal. The parrying makes the fireteam able to at least fend off the insanely powerful combi stick, which is definitely needed, trust me as a predator all you need to do is wait for one to get caught off guard, if you have a combi stick it won’t matter if you’re a hunter or a berserker, you’ll get them unless they’re a wizard at parrying.
It’s difficult when your PS4 is barely managing 6 frames per second, regardless it doesn’t matter how good they are at parrying, without help they’re done for.
Not really. I’ve 1v1’d preds by parrying lmao.
Zerk and combi combo is busted anyone telling you they stomp him by parrying is liein threw there teeth and full of shit sorry but I’ve done this it doesn’t work the knife rarely parries the combie only about 20% of the time , a zero can jump down on all 4 fire team members off RIP uncloaked with air also shooting him and still down all 4 within seconds and yall asking for a pred damage buff? Wack