Changes to Impenetrable

#1

So, I’ve been playing a few games recently, both with close friends of mine and against randos. From it, there’s a laundry list of things that may help out, but above all else, I feel like we should see a tweak or, worst case, an all around rework of Impenetrable.

The reason for this is, with all games, people see the “meta” and find a way around it. In this case, 70% of the FT players I’ve gone against have all spammed explosives: grenades, grenade launchers, and rocket launchers, Pair this with the Unleased Specialization and Yautja’s Bane and a single rocket can reduce one’s health down to a 6th. And, unfortunately, there isn’t really a counter to this; get sighted once, they’re turning the area into a Michael Bay movie. They run out of munitions, friends bring Ammo Bags. Thus, they’ve largely left Impenetrable useless.

There’s also those who spam Melee but…a quick Netgun stops that. Sure, they may rage, but it’s their fault for trying to rush with a knife.

Back on track, I feel the perk should be tweaked to, at the very least, include the same, 10% damage reduction to explosives as well, therefore reducing their effectiveness and giving Pred players a better shot against teams who all run explosives. Or, at the very least, add another perk that reduces damage from explosives.

This way, everyone wins: Pred mains don’t have to constantly be bombarded with explosives and be chased down much of the matches, and FT mains can still use explosives, with the risk of it not being as effective. Is this a perfect idea? No, but it’s one that could help things out, especially if they want to release the Gauntlet mode, as what stops the FT from all going explosive and game ruining?

Also, my bad if my tone sounds hostile here; today’s been a bad day and the few matches I played’ve done little to improve that.

Thanks for reading.

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#2

Explosives are intended as a counter to impenetrable as impenetrable is the counter to assault-deadly. If you want to take less overall damage, there is height advantage for that, or choosing the heavier predators such as samurai, berserker, and Viking.

#3

True, but with how the perks work on some of them, and the fact I don’t have Viking due to finances, sticking with them could make things even more problematic as it’d be harder to get somewhere and recover if they Second Wind.

Plus I’m still here and there on Zerker. Last time I did that to try something different, they camped in that larger building on Derailed where I couldn’t force them out. So, soured experience there.

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#4

Solution: Dithered Lense, Plasma spam. Cheap, but so is explosive spamming

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#5

I’ll give that a shot later. Does suck to be forced to fight cheap with cheap but…well I’ve learned, with all games, some people aren’t around to have fun. They’re just there to ruin someone’s day. I’ll set a build for that and see where it goes.

#6

Oh yeah dude, we know. Some fuckin’ people are just hot garbage. I’ve got a build just for countering dickheads. I can send it to ya if you like

#7

Might be nice. I’m trying to enjoy playing the game on my own again. So far, hasn’t really happened.

#8

Bet you’d love to know about my 48+ rocket build that allows me to kill most Predators in 3-4 shots and have done it.

Class:
Assault Unleashed

Weapons:
Rocket Launcher
secondary doesn’t matter

Gear: (Think that was all my gear)
Ammo bags
Syringes

Perks:
Prepper
Gearhead
Quick Release

Enjoy lmao

P.S.: In order achieve max rockets no one else touches your ammo bags and don’t pull from an ammo bag until you are completely out which replenishes back to 6. to get more than 48 Rockets ammo crates on map and support ammo bags as needed

#9

Doesn’t this just prove the point I was making?

#10

Maybe, but just saying what you can do as one player now imagine 4 players doing this mwhahahahahahahahahahahaha

P.S.S.: Fire is a degenerate

P.S.S.S.: I am a Predator main when I do play, but if I have to honestly play as FT then I’ll do the dumbest shit to torment Predator’s or if I am bored my team because fuck FT

#11

So now you know how PS FT players feel with the plasma caster? Its like that rocket launcher. That said I find the rocket launcher useless if you find a decent + predator, landing those rockets is insanely hard when they constantly leap around. Bullets are far better. Rocket launcher is nothing to a good player that can aim with the AR or a sniper rifle.

Also the netgun is crap against a good team, its a detriment to you, don’t even have it on you. The time it takes for you to aim it, they will get a ton of damage on you.

Are you on PS? Just curious because it sounds like a problem when constantly facing people that can’t aim so they can’t hit the predator, then they get something like the plasma caster when they don’t need to aim and they can FINALLY actually hit the predator.

#12

I think the issue with impenetrable is simply the overwhelming FT damage output. It’s just stupid.

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#13

I’d been using Impenetrable as standard pretty much since the game launched, but I’ve recently switched it out to Medic perk instead - wish I’d done it sooner!

The difference in ‘melt speed’ is negligible, yet the ability to heal at a much quicker rate is proving very useful for my particular play style.

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#14

I enjoy the new impenetrable with large pouch and medic on my elder. So much health.

#15

A very good point I forgot to consider, yeah. Granted, four FT members mag dumping a Pred should cause damage, I’ve seen and had games where it’s only been 1-2 FT members and they’ve still done severe damage. So, at this point, the perk is just a moot point; it just barely delays things.

So, fuck it, maybe 15-20% damage reduction? It’d certainly justify the perk cost.

#16

Minimum 25 considering assault with deadly bane and passive assault rifle damage boost plus another 10% if pred is spotted by the right guy, scout duelists, etc. 40% damage buffs are fucking ridiculous.

#17

Oh yeah, Large Pouch is a must in combination with the Medic. Only difference I have to your setup is Adrenal Gland instead of Impenetrable. I need that Stamina buff on my Elder.

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#18

Sooooo first off image

Then why are you leaving yourself open for this. There are giveaways either they have there arm back ready to throw a nade so you know it’s coming or you see the launcher and say nope not going in there.

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Dont be Rodger.

#19

“Git gud” typically works when there’s a good means around a strat. Here, there really isn’t aside from trying to snipe them across the area with the Plasma caster. If the FT decides to cosplay a Michael Bay movie, there aren’t many strats that don’t involve being cheap right back, which then makes things less fun and more of seeing who can ruin someone’s day first.

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#20

First off don’t take the lords name in vain.
Secondly if they get cheap, get cheap back. It sucks but if the match is gonna devolve into a monkey shit fight between explosive and plasma, plasma usually wins. I guarantee predators are more accurate and focused with plasma than FT is with boom booms in this game.
Also…just off the top of my head, use it against them. Get’em by barrels and let them blow themselves up with over eager shots.