Current meta questions.

#21

A good predator is going to 1 shoot you if you offer him a good scenario. This happened even in the PS Tournament by a guy who normally shoots at the legs for obvious reasons. There are multiple scenarios where you’re offering a good enough target to go for the head. Using mud, different objective in the area, using ammo bags and medkids (both those that spawn or dropped) he is waiting for you ahead and you’re running in his direction offering a perfect head shot (what happened in the tournament), there are walls behind you and so the combistick is not going to get far etc.

I’ve been playing mostly support the entire time. There is no mobility issue in close quarters, the only real issue is chasing him down. There is a reason why I am the last guy to die in like 90%+ of my games that we do lose, if I was an easy target that would not happen. When I go into a game I go with the mentality that I am the only one I can count on (randoms), the possibility of head shot is there.

#22

Don’t use the mercenary, for close combat use plasma gun or AK. Don’t use shotguns (those are shit compared to SMGs). Don’t use STIM when the med kit is right next to you. With STIM you don’t even get your entire health back. If the predator is outside just around the corner with a combistick, go out with the knife out into a heavy attack.

You stood so much into that house, if that guy would have shoot plasma blasts in there… It was a small room with 2 big openings, then he decides to shoot the plasma blast in by walking up slowly (because of that charge up) and I was like facepalm, you do know that has range… Bad pred…

Before activating those pumps make sure you mud up, more so with the predator lurking about.

(God I hope they do something about the reinforcements SPAM, its so fucking annoying!)

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#23

He was determined to rush us unfortunately…

#24

And he was lucky you where not running the PDW-Z or he would have exploded the first time he went in there.

#25

I’m running like a support type role I like the shotgun I’m having success with it

There was one guy who went out of the house and he ended up dead

#26

Well if you have success with it, good for you put the SMGs in this game are clearly superior. SHG need something else to make them competitive, at one point I suggested a stagger if you shoot the pred as he tries to melee you.

#27

I literally made a post asking the same thing today but just later, I’m gonna hijack this thread I’m sure there’s a lot of good builds.

#28

No offence intended but I have to agree wth Xan84. And I know I write a lot but I do so to be thorough and to hopefully communicate why I think my suggested tactic or weapons work.

You guys where camping which is something Pred mains(I play both equally) often complain about. It used to be easier to counter with roof slam before the nerf.

Also your camping spot was in a bad location because the Pred has access to most angles of the building. Which if the Pred was experienced(in my opinion the one you faced was not) he would have shoulder castered the house to whittle down you health with splash damage or roof slammed to do the same thing or alternately depending on his load out could have been patient enough to position himself to snipe with handheld plasma, combi stick or bow. Or if he had the Disc possibly down you all in there. If the Pred used a motion detector it would have made his sniping easier as well since he’d know your positions in the house so he could shoulder plasma cast where you are for that splash damage.

Your weapon choice again I agree with Xan84 and Lazy. Your weapons sould be chosen to compliment one another. Because of the choices available I often choose my Primary to be balanced between long range and melee rang so I often choose the GOS and my secondary is for making quick work of AI or the Pred at close range so I often choose the 2XL or PDW since it’s buff. The 2XL is more because it’s versatile as a pocket sniper and it’s ability to 1 tap most AI. But when I choose it I tend to use a AK for my Primary because you need quick DPS that the 2XL can’t give a Pred upclose. The 2XL and AK combo tends to be my favorite because I can usually net the most AI kills and either do the most or second most damage to the Pred. My loadouts are also dependent on the Map and the specific mission I’m given as a FT as some Maps and missions make it so sniping is a good alternative style to engage the Pred.

It’s why playing both sides usually makes for a better Pred and FT player. You not only learn the location of everything but you learn the different strength each side has depending on the mission at hand and the map. For instance as a Pred there are certain missions you know certain objectives require the FT to spend time in the open unable to move while completing the objective. And if you spawn in and run across such an objective you can set up shop. Find the optimal position to camp on the ground usually in the shadow or something so they can’t see your shadow when cloaked. Then throw a bear trap when they start the objective so they can’t get away and blast away. In that instance I use the handheld plasma because it’s harder to track because it doesn’t leave a trail and is a quick moving projectile. You’re already there and since you’re close to them it makes tracking by sound harder and they generally assume you’ve got the high ground so that’s where they tend to look, at the trees. Meanwhile you’re right next to them. Does it work all the time, no but when it does it’s satisfying.

There’s a lot more to it of course such as perks and gear but I ran off at the mouth enough I think. lol

TL:DR The best advice I can give is play both sides as I said because you learn the strengths and weaknesses of both sides depending on Map and Mission type. And always have varied loadouts to counter said Maps and Missions and to compliment your team if you’re PUG’ing. Check their loadouts to make sure you aren’t filling too similar a role and realize when a loadout might indicate a players level of experience. These are my opinions I am not stating anything other then this is what has worked best for me.

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#29

I know I’ve mentioned it in passing before, but Hunter with Down Range, Energy Cell, and Modified Reserve has really been working out for me. Alternating between blasting whole teams apart with Plasma Caster and using the rest of your extended energy to sneak some Bow Shots in has never been so fun. Granted, if you get caught, you can get blasted, but when has that not been the case?

If you really want to, I suppose shift Modified Reserve for Medic if that’s still 2 Points, but that Energy Recharge gonna be hella slow.

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#30

It’s a good build but don’t you find you can tear through most FT’s too quick that way? Que times aren’t too bad on Pred side right now but still I get disappointed if I feel the match went too fast.

Medic and Large Pouch is pretty cool now. You get more heals and those heals are hella quick and if you aren’t second winded are now roarless. Makes being a little reckless or going Melee a little more viable. And you more likely to be able to turn things around on a FT who’s chasing.

#31

No offense taken, appreciate the feedback

I disagree and agree

Your suggestions as well as xans are valid and technically more effective

But I win my fair share of matches using my preferred load out and I feel I compliment any squad I join

—Side notes—

We were doing the objective.

Our spot wasn’t bad it led to the dead Predator

My weapons complement one other imo

Mercenary is medium/close

Shotgun is close range

I am a Pred main who just started playing as FT
This week

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#32

I know bro, I like that you’re experiencing both sides. I read way more then I write here so I’ve seen you around. And yeah, the most important part which I left out is to have fun. But yeah man, if it works for you definitely do you bro.I’m just trying to help by pointing out what works for me and why. It’s totally cool if you’re happy running as you are.

I know the spot led to the Pred death but as I said he didn’t seem experienced as if he where he could have punished you for camping there.

The Mercenary has almost the exact stats to the Hammerhead except it has slightly less range then the Hammerhead and between that the lack of scope and extended clip it is in my opinion inferior to the Hammerhead.

The Shotgun is good for extreme close range but because of the spread it is less effective at dealing damage to AI. The Pred however during melee can be wrecked by the shotty. It’s just too situational and therefore not as versatile as say the 2XL and PDW for me.

Again this is just my opinion and reasoning and I’m happy as long as everyone plays however they like. I only offer my opinion in the hopes of helping people learn what I did along the way. Hope to see you out there man.

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#33

Oh, quite the contrary. This strategy is only as effective much as it can be if the conditions are right. Open areas, FT are standing still for Arrows, or near Barrels/Grouped up for Plasma, and there is a lot of room for them to use Syringes and drop Health in between recharges or while repositioning. Not to mention, Blowing off the Mask pretty much kills the Plasma Caster; so by then, you have a pretty large Energy Bar to sneak around with using Bow.

The good thing is that you can still destory FT bags with Caster. I don’t necessarily have a mandatory second weapon pick, but I ideally choose Combi-Stick due to benefiting from Down Range and that it can prove to be a death sentence for grouped up squads that were softened up by Plasma Bolts. It’s extremely fun on say Overgrowth or even Derailed in most posts, but not exactly recommended on Backwater.

#34

Yes, predators. Spill all your secrets to me :) I will hunt you down :D

#35

Seems really good. I’m still trying to figure out what playstyle is the strongest for preds. It seems like there are some good perk and gear combos but I would appreciate some advanced strategies for predators I’ve been looking on youtube.

#36

Lurk the forums, way more effective. I’m not going to name anyone cause I don’t want people to feel like I don’t appreciate their contributions as well. You will quickly figure out who knows their shit.

Sorry about just dropping a link, I was to tired to write out builds.
My build for FT isn’t useful to most people as you need to accept certain risks to play it well. Your job is to flank the Predator while they focus on your team, you need to learn the compounds and angles. When the Pred focuses you, your job is to fall in a place they can punish your claim.

Scout - Hammerhead, 1011-12 (1911 or second pistol) Silenced.
Double Time, Dexterous, Weapons Training
Serette’s + any other gear you like cause it’s all mostly useless.

Notes - The 2XL or any SMG is better for actually fighting the Predator, I run the 1011-12 to clear camps and poke the Pred when I want them to move from a branch. (Don’t like an empty holster)
The Hammerhead is still one of the best guns in the game, Weapons Training only needs to be on the build if this is your primary Pred fighting weapon. The GOS-L is fine without Weapons Training but you lose impact grenades. You can’t run the new gun and flank it gives you away to much.
Bursts are more effective at ranged than spraying and adjusting on a controller, if you’re on a mouse I don’t know if this applies.
Dexterous is the most useful perk in the build, it cuts the time of all interactions, allowing your class skill to have at least some utility, looting faster and even mudding up.

Haven’t played Pred yet in the new build but will next week, deleted my save so can’t tell you what I was running before.

#37

I use shoulder plasma as a long range weapon most of the time. Even with it’s slow projectile speed I can snipe from far away and uncloaked for quite a bit before the FT locate the direction I’m shooting from. Then I cloak reposition and start again. The splash damage is good enough that even without direct hits I can whittle down FT health fairly fast. That’s why I stopped running it, I found I felt like I was spamming and the matches went by too quick. Then again maybe I get lucky and mostly run into potatoes?

Bow though does take some skill to use if the FT is observant. The trail makes tracking back to even a cloaked Pred possible and you have to predict a FT movement since it’s not hitscan. But I do agree, just like I said with FT I choose how I run my Pred by the Map and by the FT classes and trying to guess what they’ll run based on the Map.So I do agree I would use the build under certain conditions.

And yeah, I hate when it’s done to me as FT though right after getting mad I laugh when the bag or kit I’m using is sniped and I take that little bit of splash damage that downs me. lol I also know where most medkits spawn since I also play as FT though there a few that are random but a thermal glance will let me know if one is close most times so I destroy it. And with more people running Arnold 87 or Recon there are less medical kits coming into matches which makes for dwindling their resources a more effective strategy then it was.

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#38

You monster 😁

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#39

Link the videoclip and the time of the one-shots please.

Like i said earlier, a dream scenario. So not when you fight against good players, they wouldn’t give you that scenario.
When a Fireteam player muds up then the hitbox is not correct to the actual model of the character during the animation, so it’s a bit off to hope for a headshot there, and who muds up close to a Predator? As for the ammo bags and medkits, it’s a question if the FT players are playing on the same level as the Predator, again, i would never start using either of the items in the open field if a Predator is close. But sure, if the FT player is dumb, then yes, there will be a good scenario for a head shot.
But you’re talking about scenarios that COULD happen, just like i could say that you can kill a Predator with one magazine with a submachine gun BUT every bullet would have to hit right between the Predator’s eyes, and how often does that happen? But it COULD happen.

#40

Its no dream scenario man. Its a good probably with any good predator. He has a number of ways to set up a headshot on you. You get traps, you get distracted by NPCs, you get neeted, you get hit when you use mud even if its more difficult. the posibility is there, you run trough the forest, you get HIT. The NPC can drain 25% or so of you’re HP making other type of hits instant down. Hell, diactivating the alarms and can ensure a hit in.
We had a guy posting a vid of a compilation of him 1 shooting people. Don’t ask me to search for that one, don’t remember who or where was posted it.
As for the tournament:


Just start the game and watch it. Its no far into it. Now don’t tell me this was not a good team…
This is another one getting 1 shoot but its probably a bug: