damage test?

So I was wondering if anyone on ps4 would wanna help me test damage of pred melee weapons. I wanna do this cause ppl keep complaining about combi stick but I feel all melee weps do about the same damage.

If anyone wants to do this let me know, I know this seems boring but I’d like to test it.

Or if anyone has a value sheet I’d like to know current values.

Fully charged plasma with down range perk do 125 health damage with direct hit… tested on support

Thanks for the info, but I’m more interested in the melee weps. Cause I swear melee damage is about the same all around but ppl hate on the combi stick.

That i dont know but the sword has good tracking. The combi is about range… wrist blades is pretty good… the basics… but war club is garbage… slow and weak… but dont know the damage values on them. I will test it tomorrow with my brother on private game.

If u do so, plz, let the others know current values

Hopefully I can find someone today, I think all I wanna test might take 30 minutes. I wanna see with and without Perks for pred and ft. Cause I use combi but I swear wrist blades do well enough too. It’s just combi has better range and tracking. If I dont find someone, put your test results here if you dont mind.

Great idea bro! Also, can you check range weapons without any perks for a clear experiment? Would be thankful.

I’m don’t understand why the devs didn’t provide this info at the menu

I’d love to test as much as I can sadly no one seems to want to. I get it can be kinda boring but i feel its worth it.

here is a google sheet that shows all the predator weapon dmg values

atm the sword is actually the best melee weapon
baring it’s terrible tracking Then the bow and the caster are pretty equal for ranged weapons

Thanks I appreciate it. So then this means combi stick and blades are kinda the same. So it’s just the tracking and range that makes it good. Even knowing this I bet people will still think stick is too strong. Blah.

yeah atm anyone who actually still complains about the stick has no idea how to play the game as right now the stick and the club swing at the SAME SPEED.
Then cause we know values anyone who claims the plasma pistol is good also doesn’t know how much dmg it actually does and how worthless it is.
As it stands right now the only buffs pred actually needs is pistol should do more dmg and club should either do more dmg or swing faster then of course probably pigs might need to be relooked at

The combistick was never OP for the damage it deals, though it used to be more which made it objectively better (obviously). Why the stick is used by just about every Predator and why it’s so OP is the reach and cone of threat it offers. The Predator doesn’t have to get in too close or run after fireteam members when he can swing and hit them from a pretty far distance and at odd angles. The actual hitbox of the stick is further than the animation would suggest and this can really destroy newer players as they think they have more time to react than they actually do.

For example: A Berserker is chasing down a Scout with double time, anything other than the stick will see him having to run longer to close the distance before he can take a swing and probably score only one hit. This allows the FT to regroup and your easy kill is now safe as you’re getting shot. In that same situation, a stick would provide you with enough reach to strike at least twice before having to run again and more often than not, you will get the kill.

I’m also aware that a better strategy would be to net gun or range them down if they’re damaged but that’s not the point I’m making.

well i would say it WAS op due to in tandem of doing the most dmg almost the most atk speed and having the most range of any melee weapon pre 1.06 weras now i’ts in line with the club in speed it’s dmg isn’t tippy top and it’s biggest draw is it’s range which should be the case as it gives the stick a niche for a melee weapon. In a perfect game each weapon would have some kind of schtick for what it should be doing ie sword swings the fastest has low range good dmg,
Claws do low dmg good speed can cancel into plasma shots for runners,
club should swing the slowest making it the riskiest but does the most dmg to compencate allowing for big brain plays (throwing a trap then fast hands into club) or punishing fireteam for missing the parry timing but still allowing them to do lots of dmg to pred for swinging the club.

I feel like the big problem with the other weapons is that they connect very bad to your target. Works perfect in tutorial and private match alone, but against fireteams it’s like 50% of my hits just miss because they are stuttering around.

that’s just cause most of the fireteam is just faster than the swing speed of the weapon like the club or the weapons themselves just have bad tracking when swinging them like the sword or the weapons range is dogshit like the claw or the disc this creates drawbacks for each melee weapons though tracking is something that i think should just be worked on

That’s the problem though, isn’t it? The weapons struggle to connect and so long as parrying is a thing, having slower swings with more damage is strictly worse. The stick allows you to reliably hit your targets and that is far more important than swinging faster but missing more or swinging harder and missing more. The stick still is easily the most OP Predator weapon because without it, melee would never be a viable strategy.

Also the disk throw controls are so awkward online compared to the tutorial. Laggy and slow and hard to aim.

I fucking hate people calling things over powered because they’re good. Its not overpowered. Nothing on the pred is. Good god man I’ve played ft a few matches and holy fuck ft has it so easy compared to pred.