delete the ability to parry the predator

#84

HAHA! XD

#85

Illfonic moderators must going to themselves, “This is some weirld twilight zone shit!”

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#86

U say watch predator 2. Danny glovers character only is able to parry using the predators weapon (smart disc). Using human weapons(knife) would never stand up to the predators metals (alien materials). This should never happen unless fire team was able to pick up lost weapons left by predators. Thusly a fucking JOKE!!!

#87

My opinion is: yeah parry is bullshit only if you are playing as pred… But when you play as FT its essential… If u dont play both sides you dont know shit

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#88

When I want to play Call of Duty I play Call of Duty.

And I don’t play Call of Duty.

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#89

Ok, the next person who makes this argument. I’m gonna skin in public and hang from a tree. Predators do not have magic goddamn metal.

If you make a material super hard, it also becomes more fragile and prone to cracking. Think diamonds, hardest material naturally found on earth. Do you know why even though we can grow diamonds into literally any shape we want, we don’t make knives out of it? Cause it shatters. You can get diamond edged knives but that’s actually a trick done with carbon.

The Pred’s do have higher levels of technology but that doesn’t mean their weapons are vorpal and can cut through anything… the smart disc comes close but without suitable momentum it gets stuck in things it can easily cut through at speed. This is likely because it isn’t cutting with an edge but via some vibration or field. As long as it has sufficient momentum it has a monofilament edge.

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Separately, most of the knives have skins that appear to be made out of refined Vert. So even if it was the case that Predator “metal” was somehow better than the materials we can make ourselves, we can clearly use theirs to make weapons.

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#90

I tend to agree with Slasher_Clone about that the metals.

What I think would happen is the Predator superior mass and strength would batter aside human parry attempts. The metals would just ricochet.

Same result, though, no parry stunning a pred.

#91

Parrying in real life is about interrupting a swing before it gains momentum, here’s a simple analogy. I’m swinging a baseball bat, if you can grab it before it passes my shoulder, it has no momentum and hence very little power. However if you wait for it to be 45% past my shoulder it would be near impossible to catch without serious injury.

Same goes here, the FT member is stepping into the blow before it has a chance to gain power.

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#92

Is your idea of what is happening in game is the soldiers are intercepting the pred’s blow early in his swing and the pred has to shake off the pain of a knife in the arm? more or less…

Its OK, I’m not arguing about it. Arguments about the chaos of actual combat are often a confused mess of ideas.

#93

No I’m saying the reason it is believable that a human can parry a Predator, is because a Pred still needs to swing the weapon to impart momentum.

When you parry, you put yourself in harms way to avoid harm. This is shocking to the Predator. You’re not behaving like prey should. You are behaving like a warrior. To catch a bat, you have to risk being hit with it, same goes for Parrying the Pred.

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Separately, you can redirect force. So again imagine a baseball bat in swing… what happens if you pushed down on it, would it change direction?

It will because you’re not trying to stop it, your not fighting it’s force, you’re redirecting it. So now instead of going straight, it’s going straight and down.

In a game, it’s a simple animation but it represents larger concepts.

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I’m not really mad man, no worries… I’m not really going to hang anyone from a tree, just sick of that particular silliness.

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#94

My ‘angry-trans-sense’ is tingling again.

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#95

Dated a lot of trans girls, 😉

#96

You’re braindead. Predator can be buffed in other ways, but parry is essential in this game. It keeps the fireteam alive, a predator would instantly be able to wipe out the whole team with melee if they had no parry. I’m not saying predator isn’t in a weird spot right now with balance, some things could definitely be improved, but this is literally just a case of you needing to get good. Soften them up with plasma and ranged first, THEN you go in for the kill.

Also, FT members will normally split up when at objectives if there are multiple points of interest. Wait for one to go open a safe/take a sample/disable a valve/etc, then make your move. Down them, then jump out and wait for others to come and revive. While they’re distracted, begin firing with your plasma caster and apply pressure. Even if they get the guy up because you fuck up the trap, you’re one step closer to a stealth kill down. Divide and conquer.

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#97

Not unless they’d had incredibly good surgery and not told me!

Nah, you can always spot these guys who think growing their hair, painting their nails, and having twitter accounts with Furry avatars somehow magically entitles them to call themselves women.

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#98

I can appreciate that interpretation.

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#99

Hehehe mine too

#100

They don’t need any of those things to call themselves women… they have freedom of speech and expression. I imagine you wouldn’t let someone tell you want you are, same goes for them.

It isn’t a good way to insult someone, it’s punching down and often not even in the direction of your actual target.

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#101

A few thoughts:

  1. Yeah, in real life it would likely be impossible to parry an attack from predator… but this isn’t real life, it’s a video game. If you want reality, go live life and avoid video games.

  2. There is no rule in chess which says a queen can’t be taken by a pawn. I’m not sure why you insist on using that analogy.

  3. If you’re playing as a scout you shouldn’t be engaging FT members in melee combat; they are intended to use ranged weapons.

  4. The bow does not suck, I use it with great effect all the time. Your inability to use it effectively says nothing about its effectiveness as a weapon.

  5. Being parried can be quite annoying, that’s why I change my tactics when they aren’t effective. This isn’t a difficult concept, I promise you.

  6. Instead of whining, step your game up or play something else.

#102

If you tell me that men are women, then all of your opinions are suspect.

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#103

I’m not reading through 98 comments but I will acknowledge that I feel your pain. However, parrying needs to stay. It needs a serious rework though, it shouldn’t stun the Predator. It shouldn’t drain the amount of stamina it does to the Predator either. And knife damage is what’s truly the issue here. I’ve parried two Predators to second wind tonight already, it’s too easy.

It’s purpose is to stop Predators from melee rushing FT. Now, if you rush a FT and they parry you that’s your sign to back the fuck off before you get melted. Continuing to melee is suicide from there on… Learn to hit once, twice, back out and strike again to break their parry rhythm.

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