Just wondering if a team of supports with
Owlf training could be a thing
Do support passives stack?
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Nope, they do not. The only real useful thing with 2 FT members with the Support passive damage reduction is that it covers a larger area if your fireteam is a little separated.
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2 supports can share the passive with each other, but the reduction will always be 20%.
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20 is to much
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It is what it is. 🤷♂️
At least it doesn’t apply to themselves or stack effectiveness.
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20 percent is huge sorry to say. basically the patch counters itself, FT more dmg plus more defense
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I don’t disagree. 10% would have been more appropriate.
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so two supports stack ?
Dante and Dutch 87 offer the most damage resistance. Throw in a support and they are even stronger. 4 supports isn’t optimal.
Dante = 160 + 25 (thickskin) + OWLF (10%) + Sprint (10%) + Support aid (10%) = 246 effective health points against pred
Dutch 87 = 155 + 25 (thickskin) + OWLF (10%) + Mud resist (10%) + Support aid (10%) = 240 effective health points against pred
Support will only go 200 with thick skin, 220 if there’s another support. But you are slow as fuck and will be a projectile magnet.
People complain about support when in reality the broken classes are Dante and Dutch 87
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Unless this was patched/nerfed, it is 20% reduced damage.
Yes. Dante is a little OP.
JFC, that’s bad
i knew i wasnt the only one who thought dante and 87 were out the gate
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so dante gives a buff to teammates too ?
no. he has sprint damage resist like scout. paired with owlf and thick skin is basically 222 health while sprinting. If you add the 20% of a support in the team well… you then have 266, which is fucking insane
Now I realize why every time I encountered that dante/support duo dante felt so much stronger than the support
Here’s a table I shared a while ago. This is without the support passive
Class Base Health Thick Skin OWLF Training Passive Effective Health against the Predator Condition*
Dante 160 25 10.00% 10.00% 222 While Sprinting
Dutch 1987 155 25 10.00% 10.00% 216 While Mudded up
Dutch 2025 160 25 10.00% 0.00% 203.5
Support 175 25 0.00% 0.00% 200
Assault 150 25 10.00% 0.00% 192.5
OWLF 135 25 10.00% 10.00% 192
Scout 125 25 10.00% 10.00% 180 While Sprinting
Recon 125 25 10.00% 0.00% 165
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I’m so sorry, i hate to nit pick, but OWLF Trained is 8%. Don’t ask me why. I’m not sure why exactly, but it may have to do with damage thresholds.
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we tested all this, not sure if something changed in the last patch, but prior to last patch it was 10%
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Interesting.
IIRC, Dante has the ability to get the highest possible Effective Health for Fireteam in the game. If you throw on Thick Skin + OWLF Training, add on Stims to your Gear and then sprint whilst popping one for the heal he has around 320 HP effectively.
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The poor scrub 4 medic teams all swear up and down that the support passive stacks! Lol!!! I try to tell them everytime I run into them in pubs and they just proceeded to yell and scream that I’m wrong and trash cause I used my caster against 4 medics lol!!
Dante takes less plasma dmg too. Bow dmg he drops like anyone else. This is why you don’t carry a plasma pistol