I have a question … The simple fact of adding to the FT the possibility of remaining in the session once the match is over … Wouldn’t that help the predators to find their games faster? …
So yes why illfonic has not already thought about it
Easy idea for fast PRED game.....
Actually the opposite. Making matches one life and removing reinforcements would be more healthy for the queues. Because more FT members would be coming in and out of matches more. Meaning now we no longer necessarily need 4x the players for each predator. Now we only need 2x as at least 2 will be likely cycling out of the matches more frequently, and be added into other games.
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This is a crazy argument to say you wanna get rid of reinforcements lol
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Well I dont particularly want to get rid of them. Not with the game as fast as it is now. It needs them right now.
But still the argument for the health of the game is a perspective I dont think many really have considered, and its a big one.
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When you say health are we talking like within the gameplay loop or things like finding matches in a timely manner?
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Finding matches of course.
It could arguably have an opposite affect though as the more hardcore fireteam experience may scare away players.
But way I see it, the game in its current state is gonna have alot of its players lose interest anyways. so it might be better to go for the hardcore solution, rather than the strength in numbers solution that the DLCS promot.
So I’m gonna make a topic on this later today when I have the energy to do it, but the main reason right now everyone is but hurt with the experience (I don’t say that condescendingly I know it can be a frustrating game on both sides) is there’s 0 matchmaking or ranking. Like I’m imagining if Dead By Daylight was Randomly marched like this, how many people would scream broken on both sides of the board. If people’s skill levels are all over the place, both sides are constantly gonna feel like the game is broken, which is why people are putting the game down. But as for matchmaking times, I think they should do another free weekend after another quality of life patch to try and get some new interest in the game
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That is definitely part of the issue,
but im still also of the mind that its way to easy for pc players to exploit the sound and predators extremely shitty cloak to figure out where he is 24/7. Hence why so many people freak out about spotting.
Spotting isnt the issue. The fact that anyone with headphones can figure out exactly where pred is at any time.
So while yes, the lack of Skill based matchmaking definitely does not help this, I also believe that there are still major flaws embedded into the gameplay.
It is that train of thought that fueled me to create my stupid rework guide. To not only fix the exploits (which if done alone, could shift the balance too hard), but also to counterbalance that.
Then it turned into lets just balance the game and voila
I get like 85% of people agreeing with the changes,
the other 15% are either salty pred or fireteam mains that only look at it from their sides perspective and dont do the single thing I request they do at the beginning of the post: Consider the whole picture. Not the details
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Yeah I mean I agree with sound being kinda dumb as is. Like the Predator should not start chirping or making noise until he engages the fireteam the first time that way atleast the first engagement can be stealthed if the predator is good enough. As for the cloak though I think they got that on the money. He’s not invisible and has never been invisible. It’s supposed to be camouflage not harry potters blanket. It does a good job of hiding you but it’s not perfect. But also, PC in general just makes playing predator aids. You don’t exactly get a huge advantage on mouse and Keyboard as Pred but you DEFINITELY have one on FT
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Yeah but consider that predator in the movies, could move very damn slowly. In the end of the first movie, when dutch lays the trap, predator is literally slowly climbing down the tree branch right behind him. Its the fact that the predator can move so slowly that allows the cloak to be effective in the movies.
Now obviously we cant do this in game. So the next best thing is crouch walking (which as pred you have no reason to do right now most of the time).
As for the sound, its kinda not the same if you cant hear the clicking before predator attacks. It should be audible. But that its so directional is terrible. I mean its not just that I can hear where its coming from. I can hear how far away it is.
It needs to echo a bit. It needs to sound like it could be coming from any tree really. to maintain the anxiety it should induce. Knowing you are being watched, but never knowing exactly where.
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Overall the game just doesnt feel like a predator hunting game, or a assymetrical game.
it feels like an assymetrical deathmatch. and between that and the fact that half the weapons are dirt worthlless, It just makes me not wanna play anymore. So I have just been kinda keeping an eye on the forums and thats it.
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Definitely agree but it would be kinda weird if the sound had 0 direction. Perhaps he’s just heard only when closer up. Also, if we are citing the film, mac spots the predator sitting completely still on a branch like 30 yards out. Again the point of the cloak is not invisibility it’s so if you don’t know what you are looking for you won’t see him, or at a glance you won’t notice. But we all know what we are looking for And let’s be honest no ones playing in character. We all just comb the trees as we run lol
I agree it’s more like a death match and this guy was so heated with me telling me it’s a hunting game and it’s definitely not. Again, the fact the fireteam can just Mud up and always know where to look and what they are looking for is huge. Like imagine the first film if the whole squad just instantly covered themselves in mud and were scoping the trees. Would probably kill the fucker in no time
Very true. Very true
Ironically dutches tapes support the fireteam knowing what to look for lol.
haha the first movie wouldnt be called predator. It would be called Dutch schaeffer
Which is cool I guess, that the FT knows. But also the game might benefit from a “Realism mode” where we go under the assumption no one has heard of a predator and you can’t mud up till you are the last one standing or something. Or maybe that’s super dumb I’m just spit balling
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I mean dude pretty much my rework guide is a realism mode lol.
And I dont find the mudding up being restricted until first contact to be dumb at all. I have that in my guide because it makes sense.
Yenno what annoys me? the way the AI react to FT being mudded
“They’re wearing camo!!”
Like yeah no shit its special forces fuck tard. they arent gonna walk in wearing a pink unitard
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Hahahahahah we’ll also if I saw a dude in mud I wouldn’t be like CAMO I’d be like Bruh what the fuck are you doing
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No kidding. lol!
One of my favorite things in the game though, is how the game demonstrates health by the amount of blood on the characters. Its a really simple but effective way to visually indicate damage, and for pred holy shit is it important for being selective about who im gonna blast down first.
Lol i still thinkin the next mode they gonna add is gonna be dumb
Honestly, I dont see them adding a new mode anytime soon.
New maps? sure. But a new mode? nada. They have waaayyyy too much catching up to do on fixing what they have, to be adding new shit.