Ellen Page is a dude?

For the longest it was defined as a mental illness by both psychologists as well as the federal government. Mostly due to running tests there are actual chemical imbalances in the brain. Once, they removed it from being a mental illness to be more inclusive with a movement gaining headway a lot of people think it changes the fact that it is one because a paper doesn’t say it is anymore.

Do I believe there is anything wrong with being gay, trans, bi, lesbian, nonbinary, etc.? No, there isn’t and a lot are decent people, better than most people I’ve met defined as ‘normal’, but I won’t deny what it is either. And a majority of them don’t either. But, a lot also don’t go around saying I am a woman or man. They say trans woman or trans man because their is a difference and they acknowledge that.

Ricky really fucked this one up

And again, I’ve done my fair share of research, have several trans friends, work with a few, and have met many of them and actually had deep meaningful conversations on the subject. Hence, statements of fact rather than emotional responses on this subject matter.

The power of lobbying. Declassifying aspergers was the same way and it was largely an insurance scheme but everyone memory-holed that and immediately began glamorizing autism.

Have you only read things published in the last century @TentacleDadi.

You do realize you keep speaking for Trans people and making claims that aren’t true right?

Actually no, In the past year. As for speaking for trans people no, not wrong. They do not believe its a choice. And no they do not believe they are biologically male or female. and Pronouns are not as big a deal for them until fully transitioned. And, lastly, a lot of them don’t agree with the extremists because it makes them look like a joke to the public and they do state trans man or trans woman and want to be treated like normal people. Again, work with, have friends that are, and talked with a bunch of them between past relationships, tik tok, and just making friends and understanding their thoughts and views on the subject. And, I use to be one so was big into the community and following and getting what people actually thought about it all. Not what someone thinks from the outside looking in. I stopped due to medical reasons and have accepted that, so I do know what I am talking about and am not wrong as you so blanketly stated. @Slasher_Clone you seem like a decent guy, but this is one subject you lack the every day person who is trans knowledge from actually having conversations with them and actually being around them to understand.

And yeah, Asperger syndrome is now simply called ‘high functioning autistic’ Many scientific geniuses had it. I actually am High functioning autistic. But, not a big fan of the labels and name changes constantly. Hence struggling with emotional connections, higher intelligence, but lack of social skills, etc. etc. You get the point. And again still a mental illness, mild, but the brain works and is developed highly differently than that of a normal brain. Whether it be from head trauma, past emotional trauma from childhood experiences, or even at birth from whatever the mother put in her body while pregnant. Any number of things, all anyways that caused some form of a birth defect visible or not.

As much as I find this an important and fascinating subject, I don’t think I can be bothered to discuss this much further (especially on a goddam game forum), but in regard to this particular case I do wonder if it now means (according to the new gender and identity adherents) that Elliott is now ‘straight’?

I believe Elliot is married to someone who identifies as a woman, so if we follow their requests to identify them as they’d like, this is a relationship between a man and a woman.

This is another area that gets muddled by the contradictory ideas behind the new gender utopia - what does it mean to be gay? Now the definition I’d use would be ‘same sex attraction’ but there is a whole new subset of Transwomen who declare themselves Lesbians and can be found regularly on Twitter calling any gay women who says they wouldn’t be attracted to them to ‘suck on my lady dick TERF!’

Does the new Trans ideology effectively make any distinction between gay/straight relationships redundant?

One more thought: Why do we segregate sport into men’s and women’s categories ? Obviously I know why we do this - it’s to do with the very real differences between male and female bodies, but what is the point of doing that now if (as is happening more and more often) people born male and living as male most of their life (thus developing the kind of physical advantages in strength/muscle development this delivers) decide to identify as female and go on to dominate in women’s sports? To me this is quite simply cheating.

It’s simple man, you lack all credibility with this claim.

Sure you were, not a suspect claim at all. 😂😂😉

Nice assumption, to bad it’s wrong.
You keep trying to establish that you’re an authority on the subject but clearly you aren’t.

Feel free to rebut me by making more claims.

A lot of grey and a lot still needs to be worked out with time. Still a relatively new concept. As for those on twitter, some are extremists or just starting transitioning and believe lesbians are supposed to be with them. Childish yes, because you can’t force someone to be attracted to you. Our species primarily bases our attraction to mate based on looks more so than other attributes. Sports being segregated is very grey because even a trans woman is stronger than a biological woman. But, you have those like Kim Petras that started transitioning before puberty so in essence developed as a woman with no testosterone. Problem is if she chose to do sports it would be even ground, but if you denied another they could sue for being prejudice and winning in a legal battle. So, can’t be done case by case basis. Then, can’t tell them no. Leads back to a lawsuit. It’s a scenario of damned if you do, damned if you don’t. Definitely something that needs to be worked on and find a balance between.

This seems like its specifically a fetish (whatever its called where you try to sexually convert lesbians) rather than actual LARPing. Distinctions probably need to be made between all these religious sects if they all want to co-exist in peace. “Bi and not pan” also seems to be a culture war.

Thats because a guy in female sports is cheating. On the other hand a woman in most men’s sports is a playing the game on nightmare difficulty.
Pumping either with hormones doesn’t alter bone density, muscle mass etc enough to make anything fair for anyone taking it seriously. Its more like a spectacle where you get to watch women try to chase a broad shouldered guy sprinting all over the basketball court. Or a girl get tossed around in men’s football.

The only way I can see them getting around this is trans-specific sports and even those would have to discriminate between mtf/ftm.

I like how you completely skipped the part where I said I was trans and why I stopped to prove your point and ignore the rest. And if I am wrong where is your proof. And you think being gay or trans is a choice? Then, actually go talk to one and see how they feel on that one. Are you actually gay or trans? Do you actually talk to gay or trans people on a daily? Where is your proof other than saying I am wrong. You don’t know me at all and outright call a person who use to be trans in the past year for over a year a liar and I honestly think you are trying to troll at this point. By even doing that you discredit any attempts at actually trying to support trans people.

I am done with this after that bs @Slasher_Clone. Troll him all you want @Finessology

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This is the claim, you can prove it false with a google search. Being gay or trans is normal for part of the population. It isn’t a mental illness and the world now reflects that.

As for the rest, yeah I don’t believe you but the onus isn’t on me to prove your claim false, it’s on you to prove it true.