We didn’t but I did say “damn you got a big pussy, damn you got a big pussy” :P
Energy-Slam EXPLOIT - IllFonic please fix it ASAP
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If the predator is bad then sure, If not… NOT.
Ok fun fact. I grouped up with some people, and we went on a streak as ft. Guess what happened? The exact same thing as you guys. We were doing fine winning, got to 7 wins, and then ran into a scout who slammed spammed. He was ice skating.
The ppl in my group got annoyed, but I didnt. Cause almost every other pred before him could barely do shit.
The only way I can justify what you want would be to at least allow run and leap. You wanna lock the attack fine, as long as it’s only melee.
But no sprint, leap or attack? Nah that’s too much.
So I’ve been knowing for a while that ft has an advantage. But after the play session I just had, holy fuck is ft broken. And I HAAAAAATE seeing the term broken. I fkn use it in extreme and rare cases.
Parry is way too fkn broken. That shit needs to be harder to pull off, and cost more stamina. It’s a fkn joke how easy it is for a full team vs pred.
So to the ppl that think the game is fine, yall are out of your mind.
So ya. When that scout killed our streak I honestly wasnt pissed. We were extremely fkn annoying and there wasnt really shit he could do otherwise.
I can sit here and say this needs a nerf, this needs a buff, but honestly after that shit, plus the private matches I did, this game just needs a complete fucking overhaul.
First and foremost bugs need to get fixed.
Second, they need to ma make the maps bigger, and missions need to be way harder than they are now for ft. And longer.
Third, this game needs more of a focus on stealth for both sides. I believe pred should be tankier, cause hes too fkn squishy, but if we keep current damage values then pred needs more opportunities to strike.
As for the leap skate. At this point just keep the fkn root, but idk, make it harder?
Itl be fkn useless without ice skating, so if they wanna change it just keep the root, pred will just have a useless move. Which is whatever tbh.
I dont even Care about the leap anymore.
What I’m more concerned with, and focused on now, is the fact that pred takes way too much damage.
And yeah yeah I get it play smart blah blah blah, trust me I’ve said it before too, but get a group in that knows what they’re doing and its literally impossible for pred to win.
Oh and ft needs more fall damage.
In conclusion,
I had a streak like yours, stopped by the same thing that happened you, and I have come to learn ft is broken and just overall full of bullshit.
I fkn hate the term, but ft is broken and op atm.
The only solution I can think of that’s a quick fix, is make pred be able to take more damage, or give him higher damage.
On a side note man, and try not to get pissed, cause this is just me poking fun at you not trying to be an asshole, I found it funny as hell how pissed off yall got and were basically in denial about it being a loss xD.
I’m just… so disgusted at ft now lol.
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Again thats balancing and 100% it needs to be fine tuned, I have already admitted that but if preds think that abusing an exploit is the answer then I question their morals. I have mentioned this previously but the ideal scenario is a draw and the best way to describe a draw is if the FT escapes, neither side won but neither side died. obviously varying degrees of draws e.g pred managed to get 2 claims on a very good FT.
You know what, I agree with you on all of that, I feel like the last patch was a step in the right direction, nerfs to FT and buffs to Pred just a few more things here and there and it will make a huge difference to the game and give it a bit more consistency.
I dont blame you for the last part either, now that I have had a nap and put all my toys back in the basket, I can say that I definitely felt salty over it but what you going to do? Its a game and if theres ways to cheese certain things that people are going to find it and use it so shrug :P
Hah ya cause you were pissed man. I really wish I could have gotten pissed at that pred, but i felt no ill will, towards the 1 who stopped our streak. Maybe it’s because I’ve had too many good experiences in this game with ppl.
Like everytime I’m in game chat it’s pretty much always gg and what not. Hell I even lost as a pred and I was just like, ey, gg lol.
Btw our goal was 10 wins xD. What was yours? Lol
Even the slam in normal circumstances needs a nerf in damage. Its absurd how much it does. The damage trough roofs is comepletly broken.
If you find predators who abuse leap is a nightmare to play against it. All they do is leap, leap, leap, leap. You can’t do shit about it.
Dont get me wrong a lot of these games we come out of especially in premades I try to give the pred some pointers (in a nice constructive way) of how he could have beat us if they were decent, I cant help people who think rushing a FT is the best strat…
So we had 6 wins up until that game (we had played a few more before that but it was only then did we think to add a counter but we won/ captured the preds body all our games before that just not sure how many it was) and then we won 7 after it so a good take in all :)
In all fairness after @Draedark testing the splash on the plasma caster and seeing that the splash can transfer walls then I can come to accept it being used. Don’t get me wrong, it would make me question the preds sportsmanship but if the PC can do it then it seems legitimately in the game so I can’t argue.
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If it was solely used on campers then by all means do it but if I am sitting on an objective and all thats happening is the roof is getting pounded then I would have something to say…
The hand held plasma caster also penetrates walls. I just finished testing that this morning.
No, it just needs that 2 weaons need fixing. If you have 2 exploits, 1 does not cancel the other.
As I said before, find a predator that knows how to play and abuses smash and its a nightmare to play against.
Make that 3 then.
Oh I feel you xan but I never try to stay in buildings too long, especially if one or more of my FT members are there, it paints a big neon sign on the building to get smashed, I try to use physical line of sight cover to take on a pred and only go into buildings to drop med kit, heal up or grab ammo and like I said I make sure I am the only person in the building at the time to make it less of a target.
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If you bunker down in a building you will lose the game because you’re not doing the mission. I don’t do that but you can go inside for different reasons (or just pass trough them) and the predator can choose and time his attack.
I think this makes cooling syncs viable to my build. Off to science!
The games an mess from this to roof top slams to isolation lol dreadful devs need sacking.
Lol did we finally find a use for the handheld plasma caster? AOE? Nice
I am playing public matches with it now, with mixed results. I am starting to see some up sides to it but more science is needed.
Okay so the plasma hand gun is a lot of fun of fun. The damage is still too low to use it for anything but harassment though. I think there was one occasion when I caught a FT reviving a team mate and I stood there and unloaded 4-5 shots into the reviver. This did not really seem to phase him in the least, and the revive was a success.
Also, in melee range the AoE also seems to damage the Predator so point blank Hadokens are not always ideal.
When attempting to “snap shot” if you are too quick on the trigger, the shot will just seem to burst right out of the gun. Like a paint ball that bursts before it leaves the barrel, if you will.
My favorite aspects of this weapon though are:
There is no “tell” like with the plasma cannon. No big red light for a sniper to see and shoot the source of (i.e. your face).
The fast rate of fire and AoE allows you to at least usually catch a piece of a juking FT. I had some very fun “shoot outs” where we were both juking back and fourth, in and out of cover.
It seems to play nicely with the automatic weapon switching system, at least when paired with the net gun. I think I only had it equipped one or two times by accident when I thought I had net gun instead.
The weapon does not automatically un-equip itself, like the shoulder cannon does when you are out of energy/overcharged. It reloads instead. This is great because you do not have to deal with that awkward weapon wheel to get back to it.
The weapon does not take any of your normal energy reserves, so this leaves perk slots open for other things than energy related items.
All I need now is an emote to hold the thing sideways/gangster style and have the Predator to say “BLAT BLAT!!” Or maybe a cowboy hat looking mask, but I am not really a huge fan of cowboys.
I think I am going to keep using it for now, and alternate with the bow depending on my mood.
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Somebody needs to fix this ASAP! Also anyone wanna go against a badass FT…hit me up!
They should just seperate the smash cooldown from the energy overload and it would already be a lot better. Right now the slam is a low risk, very high rewards move (especially roof slam).
It can stay as it is but with a much longer cooldow. Maybe 30 sec could be reasonable ?
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