Ok then why did both harrigan and Dutch kill one single handed
FT Spots PRED from anywhere and any distance. This is no hunt.
You have not watched the movies, didn’t you?
Ok, listen – Dutch did not defeat a Yautja single handed, in fact he did not defeat it in hand to hand combat at all. Anytime wanted to extend the fun a bit, so he unmasked himself and disarmed his PC to have some extra fun, rather than killing Dutch (which he completely overpowered at that point of the movie). After few seconds of friendly arguments exchange we can see Dutch almost fucking dead, crawling away, when Anytime is not even scratched – please stop saying that he was defeated single handed by Dutch ,that is utter shit. Dutch did not beat him up – he outsmarted him.
Harrigan managed to paree Ghost’s melee attacks (with his own, indestructible weapon, not a fucking kitchen knife – worth mentioning) and kill him also by outsmarting him – he was playing defeated and then stabbed him when Ghost foolishly revelled his chest to him. Also, please note – minutes earlier Ghost took 7 shotgun rounds in to his chest and lost an arm – a fucking arm man!. Still beat the shit out off Harrigan and got him on his knees. He was outsmarted, not beaten to death.
Watch those movies man, they are absolutely insane!
I agree with you Noktrum, but only when you get one skilled pred against 4 skilled ft players. (balanced skill level from both sides)
Them you’ve got a impossible mission for pred (mission = killing all ft players).
I play this game for almost 2 months and I of course got some experience with the pred.
I win the majority of matches i play cuz i believe 50% of Ft players I face are average to good and 20% are newcomers.
But sometimes I get matchmaked with the 30% that are skilled / experienced ft players, these matches I rarely win, and actually get killed in some.
So I said all of this to show that the predator in this game is “ok” most of the time.
But when we get to play against the same level of play on the other side, them we notice he’s actualy very weak.
I dont want him to be op. I just want him to be able to deal with 4 skilled ft players on the other side.
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I’m sorry but that is a definition of being OP
I can see your point, you are right, but he needs to be OP in order to stay faithful to movie originals and also in order to be able to deal with 4 armed men on comms, that for some insane reason are actively hunting you like its fucking Evolve or something XDDD
I think, a good way of achieving that is by removing marking from game entirely(just ability to mark, not spotting) and give Pred less HP and better stealth – you are not meant to get in there and happily slash every one to death, you are suppose to be a stalker, a hunter. Just my opinion
No, Dutch defeated the predator in 1 on 1 fight with no weapons. Its irrelevant who did what. If the predator decided to disarm himself that’s his problem. Underestimating your opponent is part of a fight.
You really missed the last scene of the movie did you? Let me spoil it for you then…
Anytime beat the shit out off Dutch, got him almost killed in hand to hand combat then got hit by a 2 ton log in the face and got his spine broken in process of this delightful experience – not exactly a hand to hand combat defeat my friend. If there was no trap set in advanced, Arnie would be dead meat quz its impossible for a human to beat up a Yautja, simply because they are so OP ;-). Period
In a fight, the only relevant thing is the outcome. Who ended up ALIVE and who dead? That is the winner and the loser. I missed nothing.
Oh and Superpredator:
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100% True. When I playing FT i don’t get any fun cuz it’s too easy to win. Sometimes I killed pred by myself being alone. When I playing Pred I don’t get fun too, cuz I want to win, but can’t do this since 70 lvl. And when somebody leave with the chopper my mood spoils. So now I’m playing only 1-2 matches per week in this game.
Yes you have, you’ve cut In to conversation me and knuckingfuts were having on whether Predators should be OP in game quz they allegedly can be defeated in hand to hand combat – my point was they cannot be defeated in hand to hand combat, so yes, they are Op – and you are throwing in some philosophical bullshit about who should be considered a winner – not the point! Please read the full conversation before further commenting! We are talking about the physical aspect of boxing with a goddamned Predator! I’m not disputing the fact he was defeated – I’ve pointed that out for sweet baby Jesus Christ sakes, just saying he was not defeated in hand to hand combat, as implied by knuckingfuts. In the name of screaming shit…
Second movie the predator was defeated in hand to hand combat but was missing an arm. The movie above showed a predator getting killed by a yakuza. Try again. Both had melee weapons. I hope you don’t think that the human should be unarmed and the predator bring a plasma gun right?
Now. Dutch used the environment to defeat the predator. A VALID TACTIC. If Dutch has no weapons, the predator disarming himself only broth him to the level of the human. That is fair!(for the argument here) Then, when both where disarmed, Dutch won a fair fight using the environment. If this is a caged fight… Yeah, a human can’t win that but that is completely irrelevant. Also, Duch had his fists alone, the pred also had his wrist blades.
Dude what the fuck is wrong with you? Why are you fighting a non existing argument? Conversation was not about that.
Again, what the fuck is wrong with you? Seriously, I’m not trying to insult you, just want to know whyare you saying my arguments are valid and then procced to say:
Its like The Predator all over again… dialog that dose not make any sense.
I don’t see any arguments in your post, just “I don’t understand”. Perhaps next post you can find something worthwhile to say?
I’m not trying to insult you but you act like an idiot, ignoring every post I made and only referring to what I said 2 seconds ago as a whole of my argument. At this point I’m convinced you are only looking for a fight. Don’t have time for that mate, if you are really interested in what the conversation was about then I suggest read all posts above. Have a good weekend mate.
When you have no arguments start throwing insults(slow clap). Now I will quote you since its obvious you can’t remember what you said:
“my point was they cannot be defeated in hand to hand combat, so yes, they are Op”
Then I provided 3 instances where the predators have been defeated in hand to hand combat. So where’s your argument?
Ok… lets dance bitch
Dutch did not defeat Antytime in hand to hand combat – he lost that combat (like a bitch) and outsmarted the hunter by luring him in to the trap.
Harrigan did not defeat Ghost in hand to hand combat – he lost, was on his knees (hilarious, Yautja was heavily wounded and missing its arm, OP I guess… ah you little bitch) and outsmarted him by faking defeat. He would never have managed to overpower a Yautja for Christ sakes kid.
Predators?!? WTF??? That movie claims first movie took place in Guatemala and second never happened – it the same as The Predator so non canon, do not bring this up again.
End off- you are wrong (I guess, still not sure why you’ve joint this conversation and what exactly were you trying to prove) and I’m right. Stop watching non canon bushtit like AVP and others that followed, go back to originals from 84 and 90 – you will understand that Yautja are OP by design. I really don’t want to be insulting to you, I find no fun in insult but your participation in this discussion simply dose not make sense to me – I say you cannot defeat a predator in hand to hand combat, give legit argumentation(see top of this comment) and you say yes you can! And completely ignore my arguments… WTF?
Again with the insults. Outsmarting the opponent in a fight is part of the battle. He did not lose anything. He won the fight.
Harrigan won the fight as he was the one at the end alive and the predator dead. Again with the outsmarting as that is an excuse, outsmarting your opponent is part of the fight.
Don’t care what you think about Predators (i don’t like it just as well). Its still a melee fight with a predator.
“You are wrong, I am right” a bold claim and quite funny, I remember when people used to make fun of others by saying this, you attack this line to yourself willingly. Someone who does not know that outsmarting your opponent is a big part of hand to hand combat. Go ask around some martial artists about this one because its facepalm level. The predators are stronger then humans, sure they are. Still lost in h2h battle because people outsmarted them.
Jesus Christ!!! Kid that is what I’m saying! We are on the same page!!! STOP!!!
I’m just saying that he did not defeat him in hand to hand combat, you can see that in the movie!
Jesus… I know that, I pointed that out already, not the point of the argument!!!
No no, hold on there buddy! I never said I don’t like it. In fact, I do, it had some good action and points. Just saying its not canon, and we are discusing canon Yautja not being defeatable in hand to hand combat with a human.
I do martial arts kid, started when I was 10… just stop already, ok?
FUCK ME!!! WHY ARE YOU ARGUING WITH ME IF WE ARE SAYING EXACTLY THE SAME THING!!! I don’t understand whats happening… fuck…;-(
Oh, btw
Bitch is not an insult bitch! That is what I call my hamster, and he loves it to bits!!!
“I’m just saying that he did not defeat him in hand to hand combat, you can see that in the movie!”
No, he did defeat him in h2h combat, he did not defeat him at chess. It was a h2h combat that ended with a disk in the predators belly (using the second movie as example).
If you really did MA you should know brute strength is not everything that it is in a hand to hand fight.
I agree my friend.
just for the people here to know, earlier this morning I was playing and I got two or three consecutive victories agaisnt some ft squads.
Then I ran into a squad of 4 ft players
2 of them were lousy children, and the other 2 asked me to kill them hahaha
it was hilarious since they let me kill the two without shooting a single bullet at me right in front of them.
Then we (me and the 2 remainig ft players) started the real game and in the end after so much pressure, speedy attemps, and many pigs consumed to recover my heath during the fight the time expired and the 2 remained alive despite being very wounded.
We all congratuated each other in the after action screen and the guys were so nice to me.
So, if you paid attention to all of this you noticed that I couldnt kill only “two” ft squad members! yeah, it wasnt 4, it was only 2!
cuz these guys were experienced ft players and they would spott me and shoot me wherever I was.
I even got to almost kill one of them thanks to my speedy hit and run attemps but in the end, I lost the game since they were alive.
The guys were nice to me cuz they know they can’t be touched when they work together since the predator is powerless.
The “spot” mechanic helped them a lot either. I could see the message all the time as soon as I got in the area.
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Hokej… got a minute to cool down. I actually read through the conversation quz at this stage I’m convinced one of us is insane. What I found – you have probably misunderstood the topic me and the other dud were having. It was about whether predators are OP towards humans or is it the other way around. Other dude said Predator is not OP according to movies quz humans defeated them in h2h combat – what impales beating them to death bear hands. My argument was they did not defeat them with strength but by outsmarting them, so no, humans are not Op. That was the core of the argument. You have jumped in without reading it and said I’m incorrect, throwing my own arguments against me quz you incorrectly thought I’m saying humans never defeated predators. I’m not neglecting the fact humans defeated predators. They have, I’m saying they are not OP and will not stand a chance with a health Yautja in bear hand h2h combat. Anytime was slightly injured, no weapons and he almost killed Dutch in that fight! Shocking? No, it’s a 2.5m tall reptilian alien for Christ sakes!