They talk about how we can’t have 2v8 because its unbalanced then give FT soul-swapping reinforces lol
Can we have 2v8 now?
How fast a full Bot team can melt a Predator at point blank
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TBF it is to make up for the loss of a player that you wouldn’t normally have
That’s what the bot itself is for. Soul-swapping the bot 100% skews the balance however
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How is that unbalanced? Its one predator for each 4 members of Fireteam. What was their reasoning?
But give bots that do DPS then any player can with 100% accurate aiming, cuz thats balance.
They’re worried about the preds focus firing one person
Instead of just providing mechanics, say trophy ratings or damage reductions or debuffs to decentivize doing so if they’re that worried about it.
But these are the same guys that the first thing that came to mind when thinking of a mode was King of the Hill of all things.
That’s universally the least-played mode in every shooter because its just brainlessly spamming nades at a point and respawning.
As if one Predator doesn’t focus fire on one Fireteam anyway? Not to mention if 4 are capable of holding off one Predator, then an additional four can do the same against a second Predator. Yeah, I don’t see their logic behind this. Not to mention, like you mentioned, they can provide new mechanics, damage reductions, or debuffs to decentivize doing what they said.
How?
1 player 3 bots
Player dies 1 player 2 bots
It’s just like killing player
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because of how fast you could swap into a bots place or worse you can change loadouts
so if your first loadout was a bad match change to a better one sounds familiar doesn’t it?
Why
Again it’s still the same resources it’s just mitigated from players leaving which is already a downside
But aren’t the loadouts tied to the bots?
So if your meta abusing your getting a downgrade in loadouts
And another thing the bots already have said loadouts so again it’s still the same amount of resources as a base team
and how fast you can swap means you could spawn in again before teh predator runs away or worse while the predator’s is fighting the AI you spawn into and kill him cause his health is low and you have a full magazine
no loadouts are not tied to the bots you select your loadout and get it fresh when you spawn in place of the bot they said on their stream this is how it works you get YOUR loadout
so you could die as a Recon spotter select the support comms to replace and spawn in as assault deadly you spawn at whatever hp they had but if your class has a greater max hp difference you gain that so if they didn’t have thick skin you gain 25 hp
do you see the problem?
you literally get to counter pick the predator and he doesn’t have the choice to do this and possibly might not even be able to react to you spawning in
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Its fine because they are dumb as bricks. Just don’t get into the middle of 4 of them. Try shooting the arrow from stealth at them and see how many you can take out before you get even 1 point of damage.
Just like how a human FT can follow in your callout and punish the same way?
Either way you still have 4 loudouts
And no swapping your loadouts is not an advantage since meta builds fit most situations anyways
At most you have weapon ranges but FT DPS is still high
Counter pick what exactly?
You have GOSLR and snipers for long range and the AK for short
That’s it
Rather than having a long range weapon FT and a short range FT you have a short/long range FT and an RNG bot loadout
because you woudn’t run scout duelist against an elder stalker if you had a choice
now you can die and respawn as a OWLF sniper
for a better match up
weird that you didn’t make this arguement last time
makes me think you only care about fireteam gameplay
in the situation i jus explained you would have 5 loadouts appear in a single game
i’m sorry when can i melee someone and they instantly gain a full mag of a different gun and gain a random +25 hp heal and different class/perk properties?
There’s better classes than that
It’s good but it’s off meta
Last time what?
Considering they could of had that since the beginning yes.
All that’s happening is the FT is getting their good loadouts from having worse loadouts
Their best is still better then with bots.
oh you don’t remember here let me remind you the last time being able to swap loadouts based on information you have
you claimed it couldn’t be done because people would just constanly counter pick each other with meta loadouts
but now you say it doesn’t matter anyway
did you change your opinion since? because now only ft can do it?
the bots have auto aim from >30m which prevents melee play entirely always attempt to aim for the mask and there speed can exponentially increase which is practically teleporting to reach the human ft if they get to far away this can be as short as 50m but ok
when the avg player only lands >25% of their shots i suppose they aren’t better
A.
I actually had hope for this game and the future of it
B.
Was the point that it would make certain classes look better than they were because people would counter pick based on skill skewing the charts of bad classes
All the current idea would do is make good classes better which would only cement that they need a nerf
C.
The point was your idea was straight up dumb
Especially since it didn’t even solve one of its own issues
It was self defeating
I.E your idea was and still is bad because it solves nothing
No your just bad at designing games
But nice try
Talking resources
This entire conversation started with soul swapping
Yes the aim bots are broken
still sounds like it’s worth trying since now it’s in game hat you can counter pick thet predator but he can’t counter pick you
but your the one defending it saying it’s ok
and i also probably have more amateur game design experience than you
as i’ve been doing DnD homebrew for over 7 years now