took words right out of my mouth, I agree with all of what you said btw
How to fix the game
I swear this and Hunt Showdown with a controller are the worst, laziest ported controls ever, but atleast your target is at head level in Hunt. Most people still ditched console Hunt at launch asked them to fix controls and idk if they ever did, but of course there were still a hundred die hards playing on meme controls or a mouse telling potatoes to git gud I guess that means its fine and accessible lol.
But atleast Hunt doesn’t increase all the weapon damage 100% because console players can’t hit spider. I don’t even think they acknowledge the console port exists anymore though.
No clue honestly, but in reality it’s to be expected from an indie company with a rough history in the gaming industry. They never talked or updated anyone in F13 idk why people expected things to be different this time around.
In truth F13 was a disaster, but controls weren’t terrible and optimization was better, so what went wrong is what I wonder
Eh it was one of the mods here. Back when I was active around the time that dutch 87 came out a dev PM’d me about the rework guide. Said that things like my post were exactly what we need.
That wasnt something he had to do, wasnt part of his job. He just did it, and that was the moment I realized he cares, and im sure most of the devs do, but publisher bs and deadlines and contracts and all that other crap leave little room for them to actually pour that care in.
I can’t believe I have to say this but its not the same type of game? Its completely different from top to bottom. Its like I am telling you the sky is blue and you’re telling me nah, the car is red.
@Finessology the reason PS4 players disable cross play as predators is because they want easy games! Its far more easy to kill the FT with melee then kill the predator with bullets with a controller. They can do it, of course but its not because they want it fair, they actually want it as much in their favor as possible.
Its not only about shooting the predator man, you keep focusing only on this. Just play more and see the dumbass decisions people make and you will see that hitting the predator is not even close to the top of the issue. On PS you have far more casuals that don’t even know they have specializations, don’t know mechanics, don’t know what weapons to use and so on.
If some people can play well with a controller and actually land shots, I think its not really the controller so much at fault as people’s skill. Now I am not saying MK does not have an advantage, it does but its not the issue why so many PS players are that bad. Just go look at the PS tournament and see them land shots.
I regret walking into this thread
oh so like how in League there are people who don’t know what CS is, don’t know every single champions ability and what the counter pick is, or when to make the decision to gank a lane, go for dragon, or baron or what champion they should’ve banned, yeah the game is alot of decision making that doens’t come to just landing skill shots(shooting the bad guy)
when your using a skill based argument you can boil things down to decision making and game knowledge which applies to literally games of all competitive genres especially when your arguement doesn’t just apply to the basic core mechanic of the game in this case shooting the predator as your saying there is a fundamental issue with the players that isn’t just they can’t point and shoot which makes my claim work that games are complexe decision making against an opponent like chess
You can still balance a game equally around people with 80IQ and people with 120IQ
as it has been done by other games you just aren’t willing to say Illfonic doesn’t have the talent to do it
Double the map count asap
Add new missions to existing maps
Add weapon variants for Pred and new armor designs - not colors
Add different heads for Predators
Add night variants to all maps
Add more weapons and customization for FT
Add more outfits for FT
Add new weapons for Predator
No.
Seriously not trying to just shut you down, but for pred, we need more ways to fight.
More tech.
Like new weapons that work completely different than what we have now.
New abilities.
We also need way more options during matches.
I dont really want to see new maps.
I want the pred gameplay to evolve.
That’s what we need right now.
Pred needs to be better, ft is good as it is, just needs a few nerfs.
No more cosmetic options, not until bugs are fixed and preds in a better spot.
I have made these suggestions before
Yautja sniper rifle
Gauss cannon
Snare traps
Double wrist blades
I’ve even suggested adding a combat stance to open up melee combat
A way for the pred to actually parry?
When he’s in a fighting stance of course
I can’t believe I have to say this but its not the same type of game?
This is the last topic I’ll talk about but let’s say that some how your right the fact that they’re separate games matter (which I disagree with)
You also have no proof that it’s impossible to balance the game for both pro’s and noobs your just assuming based on nothing since no game similar to PHG has tried to balance the game around both pro’s and cons.
Not to mention the basics of balancing around both is to change aspects of something based on who it affects.
It also ignores the fact that SBMM will fix people together based on performance to fix that problem. So even if it was Pred sided in average ranks it’d just stack that Pred against better FT.
after a long time of not beeing present in this forum…il be glad to give u a like so i can go back to my chores cuz this game is still in beta for me as i can see…
He’s already been told several times by other people that balancing has been done around pros and noobs in a lot of other games and it is possible, but Illfonic doesn’t have the capabilities of pulling it off. No point in leading a horse to water that refuses to drink.
Ya but I also said his claim is just an assumption so that should work.
Seen someone say this morning that Illfonic wouldn’t of gotten the IP for the game if they weren’t capable of doing the balancing and so on. Had a great laugh, because if they were capable we wouldn’t have super poor optimization, poor balancing, lack of content, and as many bugs as we do. It’s a simple thing of they got the IP because they knew someone and they offered the right amount to make it and use the IP. Nothing more. Plenty of indie companies have gotten IP’s they weren’t capable of handling. This isn’t the first and won’t be the last.
Remove perk system in favor of skill tree system
@ KameofWar Dude, in this game you can’t change your build in game. Having a premade means you can set up your entire team before the game starts giving you a big advantage over people you meet randomly in the game and who will play in a certain way with certain talents and not even have external coms so the predator can’t hear you speak. Yes, that is right, I can’t even tell my team what to do and the predator not hearing me out.
Then you moved on and mixed together 2 arguments with nothing in common from what I said. One was about why you can’t balance preamdes and randoms and the other why aim asist is not enough, you need a proper matchmaking for skill. Then its the fact of the low population we have in this game and predator que is already long, put in a proper matchmaking and good predators would be sitting 1h in que.
And yes, you can’t really balance for both sides. If someone can’t parry, he is going to get destroyed in melee, if someone can parry, the predator is going to have serious issues getting a kill in melee. So how do you blance when one can’t defend at all against melee and the other makes melee pretty much irrelevant? If a premade of skilled players has to defend from a predator that jumps on them in melee is going to explode that predator, if a bunch of potatoes get attacked by the predator in melee, the get floored, all 4. So how would you balance this?
Read above. Yes, I don’t have proof, do you have proof on how it can be done? I have yet to see a good idea from anyone of how you balance for both sides. All I see are people telling me “it can be done”. Explain to me how and then take into account also the skill of the devs. Go right ahead.
Also, the matchmaking argument is the only that would work BUT NOT IN THIS GAME! It will kill the predator que. You do not have the population for it.
Explain to me how and then take into account also the skill of the devs. Go right ahead
Make the cloak very powerful but only for short duration (15 sec~)
Good preds with good aim will be able to take advantage of this but mediocre preds will have trouble doing much.