How to make this game Legendary !

Okay so I’ve been playing this game for quite a bit today and I’ve come to a few conclusions that I would like to share here. The game when it works actually feels really fun albeit with a few shortcomings that I will describe here. I would like to say the work that’s been done is really good and the Predator feels mostly fun to play and being a part of the fire team is cool. The matchmaking is completely borked and we got to have dedicated servers OR something needs to be done about these que times BUT I do have an answer for this below.

All right now getting on to my knit picks so I think everyone can kinda agree that the Predator is a little under powered right now it seems like the devs wanted the Predator to play a more stealthy kind of sneaky and pick people off kind of approach....well it doesn't work like that any person who has half of a brain will be sticking with their fire team. 

There’s no opportunity to honestly play this play the style that the devs want you to play. It kind of always ends up with you just dive-bombing into the middle of The Fray and trying to hack away and do as much damage as you can and get away.

I think what needs to happen is there needs to be a couple tweaks and needs to be a couple more tools added and maybe a few more objectives that can be implemented to kind of make it so that there are opportunities for some various game play interactions. Now I'm not saying buff the freaking Predator so he does a million damage 1 hits everybody and I'm not saying nerf the fire team so they use bubble guns . All I'm saying is there's some tweaks that need to be made to kind of bring the Predator up to the level of the fire team if not more. Because here's the thing the Predator supposed to be his omnipresent scary terrifying creature that we don't know where it is but it's always watching. 

Right now the Predator honestly feels like a huge joke I'm talking people actually end up hunting the predator they're not scared they are not particularly worried about it at all honestly I've played a couple matches myself this stuff is just dumb. I think that's just a reflection of how they actually built this character , so I feel with a couple tweaks we can get to a point where the Predator feels fun to play and thrilling to fight against but still rewarding for both. 

So I don't know what it is they have to do on their end but what I think is maybe for melee, buff the damage up just just to hair bit since they can already parry your strikes. Make it so it maybe it takes one or two less hits with certain  weapons to down or maybe make it so that if you hit someone from stealth and they're not aware of you you do more damage like a back stab or something like that then maybe it would have you would start to see a dynamic start to change between the predator and the fire team.

 Now one of my biggest gripes with this game is the fact that there is no solo mode at all everyone can s*** on evolve all they want but if you hop on evolve right now you can completely play as a monster or a hunter completely solo by yourself against the AI. I'm not sure if it would be possible with this game seeing how the AI in this game is actually pretty trash that's a well-known thing, it's not something surprising ,everybody knows the AI is garbage. However I have 2 things, 2 features that if added to the game I feel like could make this game absolutely legendary. 
  1. What you can do is basically make matchmaking an option it’s not something you have to actually do here’s what I mean . Make a solo mode( program a solo tab with features) to play as the predator and the fire team. I know some people want offline but I feel in order to keep the XP gain the same as matchmaking it needs to be online no way around it.

    Now playing the predator in this solo mode you will not be playing against an AI fire team but it against the AI on the hunting grounds maps . The Predator will have objectives he has to complete other than killing people. like either blow up or retrieve stolen technology from a downed ship or his ship that the cartel wants to sell on the black market. Or helping a wounded blood brother in the hunt.

OR he has to Target these cartel warlords and because they are these high value targets they will be really beefed up and heavily protected. Like they’re going to have like perks and armor and they’re going to do a lot of damage and so on so forth. That would be the objectives for the predator in the solo mode so it would make a still challenging and fun. And if spotted the AI would be on the look out constantly for the predator and it would make for some intense awesome solo game play.
ALSO there will also not gimping XP ! the XP should remain the same between matchmaking and in Solo

  1. Now with the fire team I feel like you should be able to play as a member in a fire team solo by yourself or co-op with others with no player controlling the Predator basically. I don’t know how they can do this but the Predator will be controlled by AI and it’s load out will be completely random so whatever kind of Predator you’re fighting in Solo you don’t know until you actually fight it. That would be a way to make it challenging in a Solo mode and also still fun and rewarding. The objectives would be the same for the fire team as in matchmaking, complete your objectives and get the heck out of the jungle before you get skinned alive.

  2. Now regarding matchmaking itself the only difference between matchmaking and solo is that you are playing globally with other players. Whenever you lose OR win you earn these Rank points. These rank points can be used to buy exclusive cosmetics that unlike the credits in game can ONLY be earned in matchmaking. Obviously winning nets you more rank points and the amount varies depending on the victory or loss. So if you are playing the predator and you managed to kill some of the team but some escaped you get ta certain amount of points. So lets put it like this , just an example.

Total victory: 85 ( all of the fire team hunted )

Partial victory: 70 ( some of the team escaped , at least 3 of the team were killed , it does not matter if its the same person and you did not go into second chance mode)

Self destruct and at least a kill: 65 (taking into account how lucky you have to be to get a kill in self destruct mode. If you got kills prior to self destruct it doesn’t not change this amount. Just like the enemy reinforcement is something that should sting, having to self destruct should too)

Survive: 60 ( only 2 kills but you lived to hunt another day and did not go into second chance mode)

Self destruct and no kills : 30 (self destruction is a result of sloppy game play and is worse than surviving there is no honor in death )

Death : 25 ( does not matter if you got kills or not)

The same goes for the Fire team. So as the fire team completing all objectives with no losses and killing the predator gives the max amount to earn. Losing just one person instantly brings it down to the second teir of reward and making it out alive. We should not be rewarding re spawns it should sting every single time the team has to make a reinforcement. Here are some examples

Total Victory: 85( objectives complete and extraction, predator is killed and lost no team mates in the match)

Partial Victory: 70 ( the predator was forced into second chance state at least once , but is alive and completed all objectives , extracted and lost no one)

Lowered reward: 65 ( objectives completed and extracted but suffered a loss )

Lowered reward: 60 ( objectives completed and extracted but lost only 2 members)

Lowered reward: 30 ( objectives completed and extracted but loss 3 members with one living to tell the tale)
Lowered reward:25 ( no one made it out of the jungle)
this would mean the game cannot launch with a teammate missing, noting the more serious aspect of matchmaking VS solo or private games.

  Now I really feel like this would make this game from a good game to be in excellent game. I have a little bit of something for everyone. 

I firmly believe that this is something that is doable however it’s totally up to the devs on whether they would like to pursue this. It is quite a bit of work but with a team of 30 dedicated people I think this can be done.

This could easily turn form being a generic isometric experience into a definitive Predator experience. If anyone has any feedback they would like to give please by all means reply and we can share and talk and discuss this. If anyone with even more or any other ideas please share. 

I hope the devs read this and know about the massive potential this game has. Thank you all for reading this and I hope you have a swell Day/Night/Evening mates.

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Or maybe try actually putting effort in before the release. Just a thought

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no your right, IDK what the devs want to do but I really hope they take my advice. I will be taking a long break from this game until i can see some improvement on their end. I cannot stand the matchmaking right now and would really love a solo experience at this time

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personally, i have a few things to say. we agree on the same issues but we might disagree on the overall solution. the point system you came up with, while interesting, i feel just overcomplicates the already pretty simple and rewarding score system the game already has. (also, when you throw in ranking and k/d’s and all that, you get crybabies that leave mid match because they didn’t get revived in 0.5 seconds) but that’s just me, i also feel like single player should be more of like a practice grounds, like you generally practice as both sides with all the equipment. While missions are a fun idea, you know you’ll also get those people who level grind in solo for a few hours and then stomp into multiplayer with all the gear.

i feel like if a single player mode were to be added, it shouldn’t give you xp. What it should do is give you access to all of the weapons and gear and what not for you to practice with or just dick around and then go and earn it in multiplayer (think of cod black ops 2 for example) but yeah.

i think that you have some good points, but your solutions wouldn’t make the same game that i would want out of a predator experience. but i do agree that there needs to be more change, because it’s not fun to be hunted as the predator, and then teabagged while they get extra xp. it should be scary as shit, not “oh hey look! more xp!” and yeah, don’t quite know how to finish this comment so i’ll just say goodbye now

I agree with what your saying ( It took me at least 3 hours to analyze and write my comment) but you can do the same thing with the fire team…so if your worried about the predator coming into matchmaking with everything( honestly skill is a huge factor here still) you can come into matchmaking with a full load out as fire team as well but you wont have progressed towards the sweet rewards exclusive to matchmaking…and there is no ranking system , no keeping track of kills with a rank…the points i randomly named can be called anything they are just an extra currency that can only be earned in public play…this makes matchmaking something of a more hardcore and a chance to actually use your knowledge against other people ( IF you wanted to) and there would be a penalty that escalates every time you quit that could end up with someone being banned for at least a whole day. You learn from failure and failure is learning as my instructor used to say. Solo would be a place for those who just hate other people but still want to experience what the game has to offer…there are no negatives just positives for everyone involved…everyone can pick and choose as they want and the game would boom even more with players. More money for devs and more future content for us WIN-WIN

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everything you said just covered the spot just right

also a nice post with problems and likely fixes and ideas

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Thanks mate :) It took me awhile to think this out i played for like 18 hours straight and then wrote this lol

Single player would be great. And in regards to whether or not you should earn xp…it’s a moot point. By the time the devs ever rolled single player out, you’d have all the gear unlocked anyway…

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you got a point but I wanted to try and cover everything and everyone even people who haven’t bought it yet

I agree with you there should be like a single/ co-op mode for the pred too

What I was thinking,

I don’t know if IllFonic knows but, predators have ranks in their society.
To become blooded a yautja has to kill a xenomorph.
The next rank is elite. They should kill a xenomorph queen to rise to this rank.
Next we have clan leaders. They have to hunt down a whole Xenomorph hive and hold at least 3 queen skulls before attempting to become clan leader. A yautja can attempt this with up to 2 comrades. Any surviving yautja becomes clan leader.
There are many more ranks like: elder, ancient, prophet, etc but I won’t go into that right now.

Maybe IllFonic could introduce some sort of (co-op) single player where we hunt down the Xono’s

So you start with the rank un-blooded. And then you can enter co-op with up to 2 friends or alone whatever you prefer and hunt down a xenomorph.
After killing the xeno you then have to get out of the have and the game mode ends

You then have the rank “blooded”

Then of you are blooded you could try to kill the queen and become an elite.

After killing 3 queens you could then try to become clan leader with up to 2 friends. (Who also are elites)

Rising to higher ranks could maybe Improve blaster strength or melee damage like permanently?

This would also fix the problem many people encounter where they feel too weak as the pred.

Maybe you could get some cool rank bound cosmetics too?
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IllFonic could maybe use the ranks certain players hold to in match making? This would give a much more balanced match because right now the matchmaking is based on lvl but lvl doesn’t mean skill it just means hours of grinding for some people.

But i’m just thinking you are welcome to give suggestions just trying to help the devs make a legendary game
I like the game a lot just needs a few tweaks

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this is actually really freaking cool

Have you had any luck finding games ? I tried to get in a few times and wait times are almost 15 minutes

No luck for me either.
I have been waiting 20 minutes to get in a game. And then the game I found had no players in it ended up waiting about one hour to get in a game.
The game wasn’t even fun because the FT ended up camping in a building armed with miniguns and infinite ammo bags…

OMG…this crap literally just happened to me…I was like where the fuq are they then i saw them literally camping in a spot and i got closer they all had old painless…i just ran into them to end the game…im done lol

Yeah they really have to make Sure this can’t happen
I could use some xp so I just hopped on top of their lil’ camp spot so I received the xp for being close to my target and took a shower.
I mean if they want to abuse the pre order perks and game mechanics so should I right?

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