I just dont understand some people.

#1

I dont understand these mid tier players, who love to act all rowdy and try to fight you thinking their going to easily kill you, ignoring a.i. and putting themselves in stupid situations.

And then, you put a bit of pressure on them, kill one or two, and then they leave.
And the last guy or last two leave as well.

It’s like fucks sake.
I’m not even going all out.

Ppl get too cocky cause they kill shitty preds left and right.

Like unless you’re absolutely sure you’re on that level, stop tryna be billy bad ass.
Idk if anyone else gets annoyed by this.

I think its ridiculous.
At the very least, stay and dont leave 2 minutes into the game.
Pred might let you reinforce.
I typically do.

Idk, thoughts anyone?

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#2

That’s 90% of ft members who win there games

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#3

Like without exaggeration, do you think that’s accurate?
I mean I can see that but fuck bro.

I just dont get it.
Ppl get too relaxed lmao.

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#4

I’m sure this is part of the problem.

Also, I think some players can’t do well as predator, so they stick to fireteam . They think predators are weak but don’t realize they just aren’t very good at predator tactics, such as avoiding attacks from multiple directions and deciding when to go all in for a kill.

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#5

This is exactly what happens when you give a gun to utter children. They get complacent and then whine and complain when shit doesn’t go their way. Nerf. The fucking. Fireteam. Maybe that’ll bring them back down to Earth.

Even since FT specs, they’ve been prancing about, winning most of their games and getting cocky. Then when they run into a good pred, they get butthurt when they lose and whine. This quite literally could’ve been avoided had Illfonic not superfied the Fireteam.

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#6

@SkooLBoY_SkePtiK

It’s not all of them.
I know some mid tier players who will try to fight but not try to do stupid shit.

I guess my main issue is the leaving right away.
Like you put that much pressure on the predator out in the open, and then when they pull a trick or technique you dont know about or weren’t focused enough to see coming, they get upset.

@Derangedxeno_02 I would like to see ft nerfed somewhat, I’ve mostly given up on getting a better state for pred, but I think both sides need a few more mechanics so things can last a bit longer and be more fun for both sides.

To me, both sides feel like something is missing.
The issue though, is keeping a good balance.
Make sure ft ain’t too strong.

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#7

I think Field Medic has had the biggest effect on over confidence.

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#8

FT has been catered to like clockwork since release. On the one hand, yeah, they need to make up the bulk of the player base or else you won’t have matches. No one wants to queue up knowing they’re gonna lose. On the other hand…that’s why good pred players are what they are. They go in expecting the lose, win, then rinse and repeat till they learn something new.

Vicious cycle I dunno how to break

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#9

Too true.

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#10

I don’t think of myself as a good player, but I’ll be honest: if I get killed by a Pred that I consider I have absolutely no chance against, and I see the -last- guy is hiding in a corner inside a building, (reinforcements already available), I leave… I don’t even hesitate.
I kinda know a few Preds that I know for sure will get my skull if they want to. I’ll NEVER leave in the lobby, I’ll do my best to put up a fight, but if I get the scenario I mentioned, I do leave.

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#11

Agreed. I’ve been saying it since it came out, remove Field Medic and the PDLs.

Spotting needs to be toned down to one second tracking and then leave a marker for a few seconds where he was last seen. Spotter and Tracker remain and increase the duration to 3 seconds. Fuckin win buttons

Unleashed needs a massive nerf. Taking away 1/3 of a Scout’s health is fucking ridiculous. While Scout is forced to run Disciplined or Ghost to do anything against good teams.

Viking, needs a damage reduction nerf. Way too much health, especially with Impen.

Fuck, just remove damage increase and reduction perks. Health increase as well. Done with that shit. I only run YB on one fucking FT class and still out-damage some peeps on the other classes. Even on my Preds, I don’t use Fearless or Down Range and still make people sweat. I’m tired of fucking playing my ass off to get a glimpse of victory, while they’re over here dancing and giggling when I’m blasting their face with charged plasma
teehehee, it din hurt! pops a stim and regains 100 health in 3 seconds Fuck outta here

#12

Ok see that one, I can kind of understand and give bit of slack to.
Usually I tell the last guy alive if they spend 5 minutes running around and bot reinforcing, that this is an extremely selfish thing to do.

This one is a bit different from what I mean though.

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#13

I dont really want the damage and reduction perks gone.
Unless you get something really flashy and cool, I love doing crit builds in games.

Cant do it here, but straight up damage is close enough.

At this point I just really want some new ways to attack as predator.
I’d love more traps, new weapon types, some good cc effects.

Maybe holograms?
Idk just cool and flashy.

#14

They’re what’s making it hard to play. It’s artificial difficulty. Many games use this and the game suffers, and it shows

#15

I hear this arguement in different games from people, but it’s not everyone.
I feel like it’s only 40% of ppl.

Could be different from game to game tho.
But higher damage/def gear isnt a problem.
Not my itself.

Ppl complain about ppl using them, well, its because the other shit sucks.

So the issue is that the other perks need to be made better.

This conversation has been had a few times on the forum.

Combine lesser perks, make some perks natural passives for certain classes, ect.

But ilfonic doesnt listen.

As far as the games balance, I dont think it’s the perk themselves that are the problem for ft, just their base damage.

#16

Make both sides stronger.
It would be easier to balance and more fun.

I have a lot of fun in the private matches where I amp up the health of pred and ft.
Feels like a proper fight.

Wish I could tweak/add more stuff.

#17

Yeah honestly I think on both ends. Literally 0 exaggeration. 90% who win there games think they are like absolute monsters. I used to be that guy too wayyyy back when. Then I played a good team, saw what a good predator was, and had to get better. But some people never accept they need to improve

#18

Hard to improve tho, for most ppl because it’s kinda rare to fight a really good ft/pred.

That’s part of the reason I cant take this game fully seriously.
And I don’t have an easy time setting up matches vs good teams plus I don’t like asking ppl cause i dont like bothering people.

The other part is that it’s kinda pointless to take a game with no balance seriously.

I’ve been getting back into it kinda, but I just rely wish I had some more cool shit on pred.

A new weapon type that’s good and not sub par.

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#19

Yeah it’s so so random when you do catch good players on the other team. And balance in this game is so fuckin wack it’s laughable people try and talk like they are amazing at it. Like the FT literally has a free win condition that doesn’t even require they beat the other team. They just leave the game within 5 minutes and “win” lol. I’d like to see damage slightly brought up, remove all damage perks and specializations, and make more “playstyle changing” perks. Perks that will actually make one build feel different from another

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#20

Most people leave when they die because there’s a lot of Predators who don’t let fireteams reinforce.