I want to play Pred but...

Hasn’t that already happed. But it’s not because of win loss ratio, it’s because bad predators are easy to kill and competent predators are nearly impossible to even escape. There is no middle ground. Along with the gameplay and visual glitches, this game is close to dying.

Maybe they should make fireteam “free to play” otherwise, the predator queue is just going to continue to climb.

I’m sorry I disagree. In my opinion even bad Preds win against random PUG FT’s more often then not. The disparity comes when a competent or even good Pred goes against a FT that’s mildly coordinated and on Comm’s. When the FT work together they’re so powerful as a group that a Pred has to be in most cases of higher skill then all of them to win. At least that is my opinion based on my experience. If I even have one friend play with me on FT it greatly increases my odds of winning despite PUGing the other 2 FT.

As for the Pred ques again I humbly disagree. I believe the Pred que go up as FT players leave the game. Making it harder for the que to fill the lobby because you need 4 FT for every Pred. So less FT playing means longer wait times for Pred. And I believe the FT are leaving because the majority of the player base are FT’s who PUG and so they lose more often then win. And who wants to play a game where even if you’re a mildly skilled player your team can cause you to fairly consistently lose. While if what I believe I’ve seen most Preds here post, they win the majority of their games but feel inadequate when facing an organised team due to the power gap at high level gameplay. So while they are bothered and rightly so they are more likely to stay and the Pred ques would seem to support that. Because if Preds where leaving as fast as FT players the ques would stay reasonable for both. As their numbers would stay in closer relation to one another.

I do disagree on the game being close to dying as well. I think it’s still doing okay not great but okay despite the glitches and game play but if it continues I do believe the game will slowly lose the majority of it’s playerbase. As what I believe is keeping it going now is die hard fans and players looking for a new game to play. Eventually PHG will lose it’s luster as other new games come out and then only the die hard fans will be left.

Again these are just my opinions and the logic I use in coming to those opinions. I’m not asserting what I’m saying as definite.

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I play fireteam to complete the challenges, and I probably win 75 to 85% of the time, but it’s usually because the predator pushes for too long, goes for a bad claim, or is to passive and when they are winded, the bad ones never go far enough away. They just hide behind a nearby tree or building. Those imo are bad predators, and it happens a lot.

Maybe? It’s hard to know without player stats, but the guys that used to squad up with me are playing other games now, and we would go entire evenings stomping bad predators. It was so bad we would throw smoke around the body to make it harder to defend the body for the OWLF, because we would get bored. But once in a while there would be a competent predator and there just isn’t much you can do to stop them from killing everybody early in the match or just toy with the one or two people left alive.

Elder/hunter/ predators that run adrenal long leap and either big pouch or down range they use bow/pistol and combistick they always have bear traps and will throw them directly on top of you

using this set up usually you can keep up your leaping movement indefinetly making it nearly impossible to do damage to them unless you knew where they were coming from before the initial engagment they will never allow a revive and use downed FT as bait to get more kills and typically use the Combistick as if it was the bow

in our experiance the way we beat this type of predator is either having 2 snipers on the squad remain outside the camp constantly keeping up mud and zero’ing the predator to ensure he never gets the first drop
or we rush the obj as fast as we can and extract without bothering to waste resources fighting the predator as this type of predator does not melee

the 2nd type is eldersword pistol meta builds at the moment as these predators typically do not attack FT from the front with the sword for easy downs and the pistol is difficult to track as it has no visual indicator while the predator is cloaked until they reload so you have to count your shots and look around to find them
albeit unlike the previous type if you catch a predator in melee you can just kill them and use snipers if someone notices where the plasma is being flung so this predator type can actually be killed instead of rushing for extract all you really need is good eyes and making sure people are close enough to punish the melee or just noticing the hard to find plasma source though if all else fails you’d try to ignore the predator entirly stall him with parring the best you can and rush extract as remember if one guy leaves FT wins

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Very interesting. The first predator you mention has similarities to how I play. I don’t use bear trap and I like to leap in for a quick swipe of melee and leap out. I absolutely detest the high placed sniper and the ease it seems that pc teams will keep me constantly taking damage even while moving.

bump Because this is an important topic, with plenty of really good points and advice for all.