Instead of parry

#1

Evade, duck, call it whatever you like, but please remove the parry for another mechanic.
The most lethal hunter in the galaxy, stronger than an alpha male gorilla and with technology that humans can only have wet dreams about comes to earth and is parried by a human soldier?! Eeh… WHAT??!
Please try to at least make it a somewhat believable Predator game.

Please do not bring up Predator 2 and the fight in the space ship as an argument for parry.
That scene basically means that you need to pick up the Predator’s own technology to be able to parry it.
The disc is not comparable to a combat knife carried by a FT Soldier because:

  1. Material (the knife would break)
  2. How it is handled: when the handler moves the disc its momentum is strengthened by the gravitation technology. Even with that he was barely able to parry being pushed around the space ship. He was able to gut the alien because it got cocky and left itself open to an attack after having beat him down.

A human soldier should not, no matter how well trained, be able to enter in a melee fight with a Predator. The knife can be used on NPCs.
Evade/duck and shoot, yes, but do not try and sell me a positive outcome for soldier with a knife against a Predator - it is ridiculous.

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#2

Or dont attack head on? FT cant parry from the sides and rear. Play smart.

Ive said this before, play less Conan the barbarian and more assassin.

Without the parry mechanic preds will just play rush in hack n slash. Not fun and doesnt make sense.

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#3

Eehh… No! You are missing the point entirely.
Why have non believable game play mechanics and make a Predator game if you are not going to go for a defence mechanic that fits the fictional universe on which the game is based - makes zero sense.
Again… Duck or evade and shoot, yes, that would work. The FT should have a defence mechanic.
If the mechanics are not going to fit the fictional universe anyway then we are just left with a poor mix of CoD and Doom - “guns and monsters yehaaa! Who cares about how?!” 🙄

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#4

Dodge mechanic in fps. Yes, lets give FT more mobility, because thats what it will be used for.

You can only be parried when you attack obviously head on. Three other sides to attack wich they cant parry, use element of surprise.

Only bad preds complain about parry lol

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#5

So you are one those who use the argument “only bad players argue about…>insert topic<”…
“Impressive” argumentation. Here is an idea: try and leave your judgemental perspective behind just for a while and try to think out of the box just a minute when reading other people’s suggestions.
FYI: I play both factions, I have more than my fair share of winning with both, but that does not mean that I cannot wish for a better game play experience. Currently I would just as well like an animation with a coffee in my hand and when the Predator attacks I take a sip and tank the damage. At least that would be amusing if credibility of the game play mechanic is gong to be at a low level anyway.
Just like it is possible to make a non fitting game mechanic that does not fit the fictional universe it should be possible to make a dodge/duck/evade (call it whatever you like) mechanic without making it overpowered in terms of mobility. Then again, you would have to think outside the box and challenge your predefined perspective. I am sure that a game developer should be up to the challenge having a creative mind.

#6

If you dont understand why the parry is a core mechanic and also dont see how easy it is to play around it then you are stubbornly ignorant.

#7

Wow, again you amaze me with your argumentation. And you call me stubbornly ignorant - I must laugh. Good luck inside your box.
I tell you what… Why don’t you copy your reply and post it on every thread in here wishing for a more credible defence mechanic
Thank you for your “impressive” comments and have a nice weekend.

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#8

B4MBO0ZL3 dummass

#9

Also, in case you did not know, the tactic that still allows you to attack head on makes your idea even more redundant.

We call it the cha-cha-cha. Equip plasma caster, handheld works too. Do one or two melees then shoot, mix it up. Cant parry or dodge. Also dead angling work or simply surprise attack from behind. Ranged combat is still supreme tho.

Fery gud ingrish bru

#10

Make it so you can parry with two handed weapons and dodge with one handed

#11

na parry is a fine mechanic it doesnt neet to make physical sense its a game mechanic. as a pred main im fine with it. the first attack cant even be parried (afaik) its just the combos that can. so if ur not just button mashing like a braindead mongoloid then you can easily beat it.

Iv never lost to parry ever (so far)

its a non issue in my opinion.

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#12

use. the. fucking. net. gun.

why don’t people understand how easy it is to get around the ft parrying the pred? if you’re stupid enough to run head-first into a ft that’s expecting you; YOU DESERVE TO DIE. if you find yourself constantly getting outplayed by the parry, then that’s your lack of skill and common sense playing as the pred. it’s up to you, as a player, to find a new strat in order to win. things shouldn’t be nerfed because you’re too lazy or don’t want to bother thinking.

i said this in another thread on here about the exact same topic: just because you’re the pred doesn’t mean you should get an easy win 1v1. if the other player is more skilled than you are, then you don’t deserve to win “just because”.

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#13

Thank you for the feedback on how to deal with the parry. It is not what I find to be the issue though and to which I try to make a point.
My point is whether it would be a physical possibility or not taken the Predator universe into consideration. I am not addressing this as balanace thing in regard to FT vs. Predator, but I am addressing how you package the defence mechanic of the FT soldier in a melee encounter. I would like to see it made credible. Noone would find it believable if I painted a image of me hunting polar bears or gorillas shooting peas with a straw I bought for my kids’ birthday party.

#14

Repetition of other reply…
Thank you for the feedback on how to deal with the parry. It is not what I find to be the issue though and to which I try to make a point.
My point is whether it would be a physical possibility or not taken the Predator universe into consideration. I am not addressing this as balanace thing in regard to FT vs. Predator, but I am addressing how you package the defence mechanic of the FT soldier in a melee encounter. I would like to see it made credible. Noone would find it believable if I painted a image of me hunting polar bears or gorillas shooting peas with a straw I bought for my kids’ birthday party.

#15

It is exactly if it is physically possible or not that is my point. I do not care about the tactic. I have. that covered. Fair enough that you do not find it to be an issue, but I find that if the game is not aiming to make it credible towards the fictional universe then I find the theme of a Predator game less appealing.

#16

You also didint mention that fight at the end of P2 took place against a wounded predator with 1 arm lol

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#17

This, is a lie. Parry effects every predator in the game.

#18

You can parry the first attack just fine. But me and you have discussed parrying like a dozen times so

#19

I mean, it’s quite possible that the FT’s knives could be made out of Veritanium, thus making them much stronger. Plus, the FT members could very well have been through more extensive military training due to the risk of Predators on missions, giving them enough strength to deflect a blow with a Veritanium knife.

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#20

The predator isn’t superman, barely stronger than an average human with slight increases to strength and stamina through armor tech. Parrying the predator is cannon and will always be cannon, happens in the comics all the time

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