Lazy's Full Game Rework and Rebalance Guide (V1.2) Final

#70

hump the bump

#72

Dont bump into ppl. That’s rude young man.

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#73

Bump

#74

Bumpity dumpity here is your crumpity with a bit of lumpity in a hubbity

#75

Chapters:
1. Match Length / Rewards

  • General
    There needs to be a match length so the FT does the mission. With no reason to actually do the mission, it will just become a predator hunt.
    I’ve given a couple ways to balance the pigs. Maybe only have one living on the map, but the corpses stay. Maybe have one living or dead pig in each pig spawn area, but they only respawn when you leave the area.
  • Major Gameplay changes
    Sure, I guess.
    The reinforcements can be removed if there is a health compensation for the FT and allow dead players to leave with their rewards.
    Destroying the helicopter only works because of the lack of time limit. Plus, its dishonourable to kill the unarmed pilot.
  • Rewards
    That’s a lot of V to reward for something so easy to do.
    2. Fireteam objectives
  • General
    Another thing that can’t work because of the need for a time limit. Not a bad idea still, but the puzzle leaves you dead meat to the predator.
    Again, the tour of the map isn’t feasible with a time limit. Also doesn’t make sense to have every mission go everywhere. With the mission variety we have, its hard for a pred to figure out which one it is without a key objective. Plus, it doesn’t look good thematically.
    Sure, there should be more AI guards around. But I still think they should be tied to their nearest camp, so that one gets reinforced.
    The extra drops doesn’t work with a time limit. Nor does the extra health work with the higher damage. No need to the care package drops with the quicker deaths.
    Yeah, there should be some sort of way to split the team, but again, without a time limit, they can just stay close and explore the larger area.
    Again, not with a time limit.
    The random exfil does make the FT go farther what whatever they happen to be next to. And why?
    These objectives are because you aren’t a predator hunting team, but a general spec ops squad. You know, like the first movie.
  • Stealth
    Sure.
    Eh.
    Nah.
    3. AI
  • AI behavior
    No. They’re supposed to be able to be mowed through, like the first movie.
    Don’t they already, based on if the map has been alerted, or if the camp has been alarmed.
    Eh.
    The mud doesn’t work well when you see in visible light. And it already makes it harder to detect. And considering this is the predator’s hunting ground, they should be shooting at shadows. But again, they really don’t target the pred, even cloaked, unless they’re on camp alarm alert.
    Sure.
    There is, ish. But sure.
    Sure.
    Don’t they?
    Sure.
    Eh.
  • AI types
    Sure.
  • AI spawns
    Sure
  • Pigs
    Um, I just copied the table on contents, so I think we already did this.
    4. Fireteam
  • Stealth
    Sure.
    Not sure what you’re getting at here.
    Nah.
    Sure.
    Sure.
  • Spotting
    No. I spot preds before they turn invisible, but wait to get a few shots off then tag them. If I spot the pred, he should be spotted. And no one takes the eye spots seriously. It could mean you spotted the pred, or you missed and his a branch or foliage or many things. If I accurately spot the pred, he should get spotted.
    The extended spotting means that if the sniper has a high point, you have to go all the way to another camp to escape notice. It also means that if the predator switches branches in plain sight, the tag is gone because everyone “lost sight” And sure, make the spot from the downed person need to have LoS.
  • Classes
    Sure.
    Nah, I think it should be reversed.
    No. Make the FT have to actually think about staying together rather than it just being
    Sure.
    I’m just going to cover all the classes by stating that the reverse is better. And why bother renaming it? And low gear should be low, or are you planning on increasing everything’s weight as well.
  • Weapons
    Too much.
    Eh.
    Just to save space, sure, most of these are fine/make sense. Why bother moving the ABR over to assault. Its not like the category actually matters. Just makes it more cluttered in that category.
    The minigun will become far more powerful than it already is, and its already the best thing at close range, and you want to make it batter from farther. We’re trying to balance the game, not mess it up further, which seems to be a running theme with your changes.
    The LMG shouldn’t both have a long reload and weak bullets. Its not the minigun. Its different.
    The GL shouldn’t have impact, because we’ll just bring that meta back, but shorten the fuse some more.
    No weapons while downed. This isn’t like other FPS. Especially if the 2XL can still be used, making you still able to easily down the pred while being downed yourself. Just no.
    The SMGs are only useful with the extended mag. Leave the 4x scope, because there needs to be more range over the shotguns.
  • Gear
    Sure.
    Don’t give them so many needles. One of the big complaints is that the FT can heal so many times. And no self revive. It forces preds to claim rather than bait.
    Sure.
    No, don’t need to give out more ammo.
    Sure.
    Sure, but make not 6 smoke.
    Nah, it shouldn’t be that convincing.
    Nah, make the FT suffer for the penalty as well.
    No to claymores, no to traps of any kind. No never don’t even suggest it.
  • Other
    No.
    No.
    No.
    5. Predator
  • Stealth
    Sure, except for jumping, because I can do that all match.
    Its already very visible. Leave the stealth shooting alone.
    Sure.
    Sure.
    Sure.
    Sure.
    Sure, but its not like I know what my FT sounds like anyway.
    Nah. we’ll just have AVP all over again with hoping over players and grabbing them.
  • Thermal
    Not useful with the time limit.
    No.
    No.
    Sure?
    No.
    No, but it should also highlight the worthy AI for confusion, but still help in combat.
    Nah.
  • Classes
    Sure.
    Sure.
    No, the heavier classes have less stamina.
    No, make the travel time matter for the classes.
    sure.
    The classes have the issues stated above, but the gear is fine. Energy as well.
    Why not make the 87 its own thing, even slightly?
  • Weapons
    Yeah, make the shoulder down on a direct hit, but leave the splash damage. Its a big shot after all and it uses energy. Maybe let it be used with the melee only weapons.
    Sure.
    That doesn’t sound like a predator weapon. No.
    Keep the bow hidden.
    Sure. but make it a medium melee weapon, like the combi stick.
    Sure.
    Sure.
    Leave it a one person murder machine, not groups.
    The combistick is more blunt. Save stabbing for the glaive or something.
  • Gear
    Nah.
    Nah.
    Sure.
    Nah.
    No need for the recon drone.
    Tree net traps are just the bear trap with extra steps.
    That’s what the slam is for.
  • Other
    Sure
    No, but make a shoving attack, getting them out of the doorway.
    Leave it.
    No longer matches makes this a no, and even without that, that’s a very long recharge.
    Sure.
    Eh.
    Nah.
    6. Perks
    Nah.
    Nah.
    Nah.
    NO.
    7. Reverting Band Aid Patches
    Eh.
    Sure.
    No.
    Sure.
    Sure.
    8. Quality Of Life
    Eh.
    It does now.
    Sure.
#76

please use quotes next time. this is so horrendus to try and match up that I really am not gonna be able to read it lol.

#77

I tried reading it cause you said use quotes but I didnt. But i think I made it clear what I was talking about tho lol. I couldn’t really follow his post.

#78

Lol not you, your shit was fine.

The most recent comment is the one I meant

#79

I already gave your post more time than it was worth.

#80

Damn daniel thats harsh.

Also bump

#82

Pump

#83

do you think IllFonic take notes from this post?

#84

We wont know until serious updates start rolling out. But so far, Id say not even a little bit.

#85

And if you get downed cooking a gernade you drop it… predator can shoot gernade in hand. Lets add friendly fire so ft cant just firespam

#89

bump the post

#90

KEKW “final” thats what you said about 1.09 1.10. 1.11

LEL

#91

@Lazycollinator

Can you add the stuff for game mechanics such as pred being able to pounce, hang from the walls, climb on the buildings too when holding space… also being able to hang on from branches… and also manuver freerly on trees up and down… by that i mean slowly manuver arouns the tree trunk…

Also bullet drop should also be a thing for fireteam

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#92

All of those things would require deep engine reworks and arent worth them doing, vs how long they will take in my opinion. Assumedly if we ever get a predator 2 style city map, a wall ledge climbing system similar to current predkour would be implemented.

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#93

Post the bump

#94

Where the hellve u been mudda fuk