Nerfing the predator and buffing FT won’t exactly save this game.

#1

While I do believe that the devs released these patch changes to try to improve matchmaking ques by making more people play FT and less people play predator, I don’t think that this will necessarily fix the problem. The problem with FT gameplay is that it’s very very boring, regardless of how strong FT is. Also you just made the game super hard to play as predator for newer players who want to get into the game, and most people pickup this game to play as the predator so I don’t think these changes will increase this game’s player-base on the long run. FT gameplay needs to be much more interesting so we can get more players to play FT and fix matchmaking without having newer players getting bullied on their first day.

Edit: Another problem with this game is the HUGE gap between public FTs and premade FT. You can win 100% of your matches as predator vs public FTs, and you can also lose 100% of your matches against strong premade FTs as long as they never make a single mistake throughout the whole match. So balancing is currently very hard to do without having a ranking system in place.
Take for example dead by daylight, its so much easier to play as killer when you’re still low rank as you mostly face randoms who are generally unorganized. Once you get into higher ranks however, you start to face premades much more often and the game is balanced around the higher level skilled players. This update was made 100% in order to cater to lower-skilled players. Predator most definitely didn’t need any nerfs and FT most definitely didn’t need any buffs when you looked at higher level matches.

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#2

Well I’ve been explained by a few predators now, low skilled players don’t matter.

#3

I can assue you that russian premades like DICE are currently bullying about 99.99% of the predators they face and then proceeding to flame them and call them noobs in the after game chat. This game is currently not beginner friendly esspecially that there’s no ranking system. The russian premades which were already super hard to face, are now kind of unstoppable lol. I highly doubt newer players who will give this game a chance during the free trial will actually stick around after.

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#4

Eh, and how many games against random FTs do you thing Yuppers loses? Asked him when he lost the last time, he said he does not remember…

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#5

I can say with 100% certainly i only lose about 2 games a week out of i wanna say 15 or so games a week as predator and those games are always with builds that i label as my “fun” builds cause they are the builds that aren’t very good compared to my other better builds and in most cases it’s with randoms as after i get killed i always turn on my mic and start talking to the other team and i always ask “were you guys a premade?”

as you are right probably in my experiance only about 5-10% of the playerbase for FT play in premades

#6

I see things on both sides I personally don’t like but I do play both sides equally and as I’ve said in other posts I’ve made, I have a hard time discerning balance because I blame my losses on myself.

I see Ft takes more damage from AI now while Pred damage from AI remains the same, Hammerhead damage was nerfed and recoil increased, many FT Perk costs where increased. The AI damage alone I would think would help Preds as AI’s can’t be ignored so easily by FT. And since coordination and LOS are so important to FT I thought that would be a benefit to Preds?

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#7

That’s like 13.33 L/R. This look very similar to what I would expect from good predators fighting randoms. As I said, its damn hard to pull out wins against any good predator.

#8

oh it is it’s just now there is a SMG with a close range kill time of about 2.5 seconds which completely invalidates melee play and since bane was increased you can now knife a zerker to death in only 6-7 swings

So now all the meta fireteam boys are gonna run that SMG + a sniper rifle or a GOSLR with bane/dextrous/doubletime/HH/thicksking etc… some combo of those

and sadly ranged play isn’t very rewarding as a predator compared to the high octane melee play which is far more fun

#9

Correct, all of those play a big part. My games from the day before, I made the mistake of ignoring the mobs since the pred was on us, my health was melting at an alarming rate… Hammerhead the most used weapon and my personal favorite, nerfed… Have to switch to something else…

#10

i’d recommend the GOSLR it has pretty much the same stats as the hammerhead just doesn’t have the grenade launcher on it

#11

I’ve close to emptied a SMG into a a predator standing still with bane and secondary damage (assault) and I could not get him into second win. Got all shots in, he did not move for a bit, probably lag. Its good, but not that good.

#12

literally 4 clips of the first SMG does 3033k ( at close range) damage dude i know cause i did it today

which is the one they buffed

#13

You’re not going to get 4 clips in. You’re not going to get even 1 in.

#15

ok man you’d be surprised how long it takes for a predator to line up a close range shot dude i know i dumped clips into him and the premade and i decided not to chase cause we like our VT

#16

True though in my experience public FT’s are certainly getting better at the game

#17

If he jumps in front of me trying to kill someone yes. How it happened to me is that we had a train between us, I did run to him and slide under the train and opened fire, he was dead by that point.

#18

There is ranking system. I was just playing with friends who got the game and are less than level 10 and the preds and randoms matching were all low level

#19

oh shit a hidden MMR system? fuck that sucks

course that could also be a new player protective thing where low level players prioritze meeting each other and obv if your in que with them it prioritizes them accordingly regardless of your level

#20

pretty sure that was a coincedence as I play vs lower levels players and high level players all the time. The devs have made it clear that there’s no ranking system due to the lower playerbase which kinda sucks tbh.

#21

coincidence more than 10 times in a row? nah

what I will tell you is this, lower level FTs are constantly matched with Higher level Preds. It has been like that since day 1