New redesigned spotting mechanic idea?

#1

Okay so most of you already know how kinda “broken”-ish the spam spotting is but the actual mechanic is also not really thought trough in my opinion…

We can all agree that fireteam are not super cyborg beings who can see the outlines of the predator or a mask outline, okay maybe with the help of a modern Ai hud that special ops have but i doubt they can really do that, so now my actual idea is that a RECON class should have an ability to do a PULSE SCAN or a BIO SCAN that would outline all the organism in the certain radius area… so lets say within 100 meters or so the scan is able to scan trough…

The idea comes from the similar scan that the predator has except for fireteam it has bigger cooldown… Do let me know what you think of this ;D

#2

that would be even worse than it currently is. everyone would just choose the recon class and just stack them, making it even worse for the pred. at least now, spotting requires you to be looking in the general direction of the pred. with your idea, all 4 ft members could just take turns scanning the area as soon as they hear any audio queues.

you think spotting is broken now, you’d be completely fucked if you had a 100 meter scan on 4 ft members. we don’t need high tech alternatives for spotting. the highlight spotting just needs to go completely or be only useable on the recon and/or scout classes with some kind of cooldown timer after a successful highlight. the eyeball pings are more than enough for most players at this point.

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#3

Oh pardon me, forgot to mention you would be able to pick one unique class per match so it would not be the same class over and over again as a meta… rather it would be Assault, recon, support, scout… making the game much more enjoyable lol

#4

i don’t think that’s the right way to approach it either. people prefer how certain classes play, so forcing someone to play as a class that they don’t want isn’t a good direction. you’d get people quitting matches before they started because they didn’t get the class they wanted. pred players already have a long wait time now, they’d potentially be waiting hours for a single match.

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#5

Just get rid of spotting.

Keep the eye ball thing, as the Predator does not even know you are doing it.

But just remove the part of the spotting mechanic where you get a highlighted/color filled real time outline of the Predator for a few seconds.

Or just do not allow this to happen while the Predator is cloaked.

#6

I did not say force people? I said they would pick in the menu which class they want to play and then would get placed along side other three that person didnt pick… aka everyone happy and more balanced out gameplay, and this is how you balance out meta in the game rather having 2 people playing recon and one support and one assault

PS. this idea has never seen the light, i also wrote about it before aka how to balance out matchmaking and the game more without hard nerfing and stuff…

#7

I mean ehh kinda wish they never just implemented it…

#8

my idea is best… Just allow all FT member to mark ( remove inbuilt wall hacks immediately)
Redesign recon spot into primary weapon dmg 5 percent

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#9

Spot is ok, must be reduced cooldown. The true reason of you lose not in ‘spot’ but in lack of skill. Sporting is part of game mechanic hasn’t real life analog. Spot is necessary to mark target for teammates. Stop crying about this every day.

#10

im not to worried about the spot as much I am about the stamina bug that happens everytime I swap weapons as predator.

#11

spotting is a dumb mechanic and I know PC fireteams abuse it

#12

My big gripes that need to be fixed next patch
-Stamina Bug
-Slam bug
-Predator Melee not to lock on
-Ducking FT member and hitbox issues ( pass throws and no registers on still targets)
-Shooting a FT member getting picked up instead of the other target
-netgun needs to apply stcuk to wallz… rarely happens
-disc speed increase on the seconday speed option
-Spotting stays but outline removed (buff to recon damage on primary weapon)

#13

so what if you wanna play with friends that wanna use the same class? you are forcing people to choose roles/classes at some point. your idea is going to either going to eventually sacrifice playing with friends or going into a game with randoms so that you can have “balanced out gameplay”.

#14

I mean people who play with friends don’t really have an issue swapping predator and fireteam already… if you are true friends with someone you can actually go trough the classes if they play on fireteam… makes it much more enjoyable don’t you think?

#15

I do not disagree with having each class (or at least limit class stacking) on the FT.

This however may only prove to split the queue even more and case long wait times for everyone, not just the Predators.

This is of course for public matches I assume? Private matches should be allowed much more freedom and maybe even have special options just for them.

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#16

Buut it would actually be easier for them to balance it out more cause at this point its just people abusing snipers and spotting and zerkers combi etc… altho i dont have an issue but i kinda do with snipers but oh well… idk

Technically its a decent sacrifice for the long run and probably it would take the fireteam search times upto 1 minute or so… for predator it would kinda balance out

#17

me and my friends play this with up to 3 other randoms people depending on how many of us are online. there’s not enough variety and diversity for the game to have designated roles in its current state. they’d have to overhauled every class but just adding in an ability gimmick isn’t enough. as it is right now, you’re just introducing a bunch of new issues for something that just needs a small tweak.

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#18

I mean eh its not really an issue lol, the class redesign idea was mainly to make the job easier for them to balance it out while sacrificing probably a bit longer que’s for fireteam… and i doubt it would add more issues if they implement this… people would just either complain about que times or how they hate the new design… which is honestly their issue and at the end its worthy to get rid of toxic people…

#19

Both Spotting for FT and Target Isolation for Predator should go and/or be more balanced since so many gamers are complaining about them.

Target Isolation should allow you to still locate boars though cuz sometimes it’s hard to find them using only thermal vision.

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#20

This sounds reasonable and I could certainly get behind it.

Also have FT generate much more noise than currently if they sprint or jump.

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