New science thread
You are always finding your western fairy tales or outdated 2-3 years old sources with no context. Everything is more believable than western sources.
I made a mistake. That was Wagner in Bakhmut
- another 50k Russian = 100k, meanwhile they copy paste Ukrainian casualties into Russian casualties LOL
Anyway, itâs probably very difficult to quantify. Neither country is releasing official numbers.
Al Gazeera tries to go by public records and a few other sources, but bit doesnât meant that gov reports all of them.
Yet every single ââbelievableââ western media is copy-pasting Ukrainian sources and not doing and never did actual independent research for themselves ââmore believableââ :)
Al Gazeera is copy-pasting Ukraine numbers. No media in the west goes with any public record.
I suppose thatâs the case. I donât really know how that intelligence works
You know, because you believe in it.
I donât think so, although itâs a possibility. They describe a more intricate way
Still no guarantees, but itâs a more objective attempt
10 July 2023, in that time it was 50k. Now itâs 2024.
Yup. But it explains how they estimate
Iâm not sure how USA or Ukraine does it. I suppose personal reporting and brigade/unit size estimates.
In that time, they estimated ââaccording to Russian mediaââ, but the Al Jazeera (copy-pasted Ukrainian sources) but not ââaccording to Ukrainian mediaââ, they ignored that, placed Russian numbers of 500k, which is deceptive. Since it was copy-pasted Ukrainian sources without mentioning Ukrainian sources.
Im sure Al Gazeera does better reporting than that. They are not west affiliated, right? So no need to cater.
I think weâll never know the true numbers. They can only be head from that country and they wonât want to embarrass selves so likely lower figures will be reported. I suppose what matters is the outcome
Wrong, they are, they fabricated Russian numbers and never mentioned according to Ukrainian sources, which was copy-paste from Ukrainska Pravda.
So we know, you just deny to keep western propaganda in your check.
Itâ really funny how you are still downplaying your intentional lies, gaslights and projections, despite all evidences I provided is 100% Al Jazeera being pro-west and itâs not first nor last time. Since they are owned by CNN.
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A building destroyed by a Russian air attack, in Orikhiv, Zaporizhia region, Ukraine [Head of the Zaporizhia Regional Military Administration Yurii Malashko/Telegram/Handout via Reuters]
Reports about military losses have been repressed in Russian media, activists and independent journalists say. Documenting the dead has become an act of defiance, and those who do so face harassment and potential criminal charges.
Despite such challenges, Mediazona and BBC News Russian, working with a network of volunteers, have used social media postings and photographs of cemeteries across Russia to build a database of confirmed war deaths. As of July 7, they had identified 27,423 dead Russian soldiers.
These are only soldiers who we know by name, and their deaths in each case are verified by multiple sources,â said Dmitry Treshchanin, an editor at Mediazona who helped oversee the investigation.
âThe estimate we did with Meduza allows us to see the âhiddenâ deaths, deaths the Russian government is so obsessively and unsuccessfully trying to hide.â
To come up with a more comprehensive tally, journalists from Mediazona and Meduza obtained records of inheritance cases filed with the Russian authorities.
Their data from the National Probate Registry contained information about more than 11 million people who died between 2014 and May 2023.
According to their analysis, 25,000 more inheritance cases were opened in 2022 for males aged 15 to 49 than expected. By May 27, 2023, the number of excess cases had shot up to 47,000.
This seems reasonable for what it is. It goes on to say more. While not proof of any kind, I think an honest attempt to set bottom margin
I got the article you posted. You are ignoring the point again. They use and REFERENCE Russian sources, but the article where they say 500k deaths which is COPY-PASTE of Ukrainian source, they never referrence. You are skipping and ignoring the topic kiddo. Again Al Jazeera is western orientated, since they never refference Ukrainian sources, but still copy-paste their own sources.
Thus article by Al Gazeera doesnât say that
Yes they do.
50k not 500k
In other articles where they never refference Ukrainian source. Just copy-paste Ukrainian source and mention 500k afterwardsâŚ