Next CHEATER Noob

Im still curious how some players managed to apply more gear numbers to Predator gear. Like 300 bear traps and combisticks

Oh, you mean Wotez

Dunno who it was

It was Wotez, don’t know how but I would’ve assumed CE but I don’t know, I would’ve held Blaze accountable to do that type of testing since he brought that onto the game but he doesn’t want to hold accountability nor explore what CE can actually do next up, would be you other than that probably can just fuck with files like Blu does

sent you some stuff I found over discord

Fearless might be the guy that let it completely out of the bag. The infinite gear glitch wasn’t as out of control until someone posted a how-to vid to the PHG subreddit. I don’t remember if it was him or someone else. The mods deleted it after a while, but the damage was done.

So you were the one that figured out super fanatic and leaked it to Zebbson? Or to someone else that leaked it to him and you don’t know who?

Did he do it in a private match or in pubs? Big difference

Pubs

You can push values on pubs using CE
Only problem is that it either boots you from the match or crashes your game. I only need to figure out what the right parameters are to push them in a valid form.

Sure, for noobs, but it is super easy to find shit without having to learn how to code (or if you don’t like coding)

Did you try finding the item values and just changing them with CE? Not all values are server-sided. Many games will have something like stamina be client-side for example, but HP and other things be server-side. The devs have to pick and choose because it’s not feasible to have everything handled by the server. Like I said, I don’t really mess with CE so I never tried. I just code my own dll’s and UI and map the kernel driver (so no anticheat will detect my cheats unless it’s some top level shit), and inject into the game. If I want more items, I just tell the server I performed a game function like “picking up ammo” or some shit

This game anticheat is a joke. Doesn’t even pickup CE, which is ridiculous

It’s not because the anticheat is a joke. It’s because it’s not functioning. I checked in processhacker.exe and EAC is not running. That’s why it doesn’t detect and kick you. If it was enabled, it would definitely detect CE

I didn’t code my tool the way I did because of this game specifically. It’s just the way I code all my tools. Like I told you guys before, I didn’t “learn how to hack and make this hack because I was tired of getting my ass beat by you guys” lol. Sam knows damn well he has never even played against me before. I know how to code because it’s my background, and I code for a lot of games, not just this one. This one is the most mickey mouse of them

From what I understand Trito and people around him are the ones who discovered it and tried to use it to kill Sam

The replication seemed precise so I had to dig into later videos of Sams which he sent me a game where damage seemed odd which was this

Me figuring out the bug was in this case was keeping track of sources and trying them out until this point I wasn’t really pressed to figure out extra damage until someone weaponized the bug with whatever justification they may of had

From this point I guess PSN Graceless saw Sam use it and from that point somehow these 2 shitheads found out how to do it and started redistributing tutorials

Zebbsson at this point was not a curator but someone who is vindictive and redistributes tutorials to spite Sam and PC players

The method with SR was not something I originally did and I started off being revived by bots, Enhanced Fanatic is a little bit worse than people currently know right now and some other specializations are also fucked after further testing at this point similarly but overall this could’ve also been contained to a certain degree but it seems like PSN players around Trito have found this but I did recreate this in a timely manor with little info

I will say PSN players being involved in the leak made communication fucked I can account for recreation on my end but the moment it leaves my hands it gets spotty

Ya I remember seeing videos, including that private match with LS1, where he was getting massive chunks of health taken off by the sawz. Like near 1-shot levels. There was another posted by him or someone else, and I don’t remember if it was you attacking as the FT or someone else, but I remember you or someone else replying to the vid saying “it’s because of lag. You took 5 hits that register later, so it looks like you took it all at once and someone is hacking damage.”

Super fanatic can be dealt with, even super fanatic + gear glitch, but if they’re using super fanatic + gear glitch + speedhack, then good fucking luck unless you have godmode or the ability to heal yourself. I was considering getting on and just going on a godmode rampage with the combistick and seal clubbing everyone to death because I was watching some streams yesterday, and it’s literally almost every match there is at least 1 fanatic cheater. What I was thinking to do if I was going to do it though is get a PS5, jailbreak it, and then inject my own code since I now have control over the OS. Unless the console side is punished too, none of it will matter, so that’s what I was considering doing. Just been lazy about it and not caring that much, but guys like Sturl are starting to annoy me because I see them hacking on someone’s stream and they’re using a stupid ass meme name with my name in it like “Aston teach me baby” or some shit. I think he’s asking to get taught a lesson. And making the console side cry is the only thing that could maybe make the devs come and actually fix it.

As far as I know jailbroken consoles cannot play online

Also to play online on console you have to pay a monthly fee, even if you own the game, which is ridiculous IMO. I dunno how these scrubs like getting fucked by Sony, Microsoft and Nintendo

Ok, this was also brought up but they didn’t have fanatic in those games, I also did testing for this

The replication was also very precise but when I was reviewing the game I was basing damage based off of sound and didn’t hear sawz sound indicator with some of the damage he was taking

I had purchased actual hardware to test this as they are psn, after testing though I see that it was overkill and is an actual switch and can be done by just taking out your Ethernet which is probably what they did purposely with the intent to damage Predator players

I’m a little spotty on the motive but from what I understand they don’t like to lose

Oh, some wild shit with this is that this can also occur naturally as a bug in the game lol

Edit it’s probably a cat-9 I am extremely drunk when I break games

It boots you from the match/crashes your game because you’re telling the client what to tell the server, and the server is rejecting it. I remember you telling me it only worked on pubs when you happened to be the host, and even then you got the boot/crashes. That makes sense since if you’re not the host, the values will simply be rejected. It might register on your screen because you’re changing the display value, but the actual server value is being dictated by the server, so while your HP bar doesn’t go down for example, you’ll still die.

When you’re the host and you’re pushing values that the server knows is not correct, that’s what it does. It kicks you or will just straight up crash the game. Age of Empires does the exact same shit, but in a P2P format. It’s purposely coded that way. That’s one of the anticheat functions without it being EAC-related. Another game I hack in had a similar issue. The game was protected by EAC, and while I never got EAC kicked or banned because I was hacking at the kernel level, I would get server kicked when I was making my character move at speeds that were in disagreement with the server, so I had to find another way around it.

You’re not going to be able to manipulate HP, energy, stamina, any of that unless you know how to hack the server, and you’re not going to know how to do that unless you learn how to code. And for that, you need to have an interest in coding. There’s a reason why Rake from guidedhacking flat-out tells everyone up front with zero fucks given “do NOT come here using this site and asking stupid ass questions if you came here to learn how to hack a game. You’re wasting your time. Come here because you want to learn how to code. Once you learn how to code, you can hack any game you want.” Coding is complicated and not easy, and definitely takes a higher degree of intelligence, so people buy a membership to the site, don’t have any intelligence or commitment, they just wanna hack and be a God in their game, so they start asking stupid ass questions, and then he gets pissed off and bans them with no refund. GH is notorious for that, google it. Take my advice and learn how to code, otherwise you’re wasting your time. You’ve spent 3+ years trying to achieve things like this when it took me about an hour to code what I wanted into a dll with a UI and hotkeys that make activating things simple. Like how I deactivated godmode when Beer shot me with 6 arrows lol. You’re better off spending your time learning to code, then you can apply your skills not only to this game, but to any game. Even top-level AC’s like vanguard because you’re injecting custom code. It’s hard to detect and patch that. That’s why public cheats get you detected and banned in 1 day lol

Lagswitch is something that has existed for over a decade and yes, it works. We knew this since the game launched as it would randomly happen even without a hardware switch, specially when someone was streaming or we were playing with people overseas or shitty internet connection. We knew very well the intricacies of what was happening and how it happened. Console players specially never got this and would constantly cry out “hacker”, when in reality those who were doing it never actually understood what was happening.

Later I tested and found that depending on the timing (which varied according to ping) it would boot you out of the match or not disconnect you long enough to take advantage of it. It was hard for me to nail the sweet spot consistently, but I had some fun shooting while I was downed, LMAO

Ok first, I know how to code (very basic), worked as devops, scripting and shit, I just don’t like it. I do it if I get paid, but not as a hobby or for the " fun of it" . Matter of fact for the past year I ditched IT and moved to Audio/Video engineer and I couldn’t be happier working with live music and video streaming.

I haven’t spent 3+ years learning how to exploit the game. Never had to. I am literally just stumbling into random shit because of the amount of hours playing. The CE basic shit I did took me a little over an hour and I just did it just to push the limits of it and I was bored and it required no coding, just basic understanding of logic.

Yeah, I don’t think people really know how to identify if someone is doing it or really what it looks like, would be nice to have a flashlight in the greyzone that is this cursed ass game

Ya that’s the video. There’s another (I don’t remember if it was LS1 or what), but it was on overgrowth and also had sketchy full HP 1-shots lol. That was the one that was posted here and you replied saying it’s lag. I don’t remember if fanatic was in that match. But ya the motive for the LS1 video is clear. From my understanding those guys had talked a lot of shit, and I think that’s what lead to the private match, so of course they don’t want to lose lol