One more attempt to be heard.

#101

No we understand them removing the timer does not promote stealth

Bum rushes are still more affective

And stealth is useless.

And no stealth is not good for the game. We’ve already seen what it’s like with the 10 minute FT hide outs before the introduction of last man standing.

No adding two currencies is not a good idea.

It doesn’t do anything’s. Your idea’s around it does, but the actual addition of a second currency doesn’t do anything beneficial.

And adding all the maps into one would both be pointless and ugly unless you reworked the entire game around it.

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#102

These changes would not be good for the health of the game. I appreciate that you’re thinking of ways to improve the game, but with every suggestion, think of it on a budget.

Particularly a time budget. Let’s say you have four weeks to create the next update. Making new models and animations for characters, props, map pieces, and weapons can take a week easily, each.

While the artists make those, the programmers have to design the game mechanics and smooth them out, which can take days for each mechanic.

Then the QA team has to wait for the artists and programmers to finish their work to test it and suggest changes, which can then take an additional couple weeks of back and forth.

It’s not feasible to suggest things like regenerating limbs and reworking the game economy when the core gameplay is still not hitting the mark.

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#103

Don’t worry I already explained it to him

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#104

People are going to hold the game hostage regardless of what game it is. The ability to virtually torture people until they ragequit has proven to be too much power for one person to handle.

#105

Idk how you would prevent that tho besides a timer.

But theres a lot of stupid stuff in DBD which allows for that lol.

#106

Entire illfonic team scammed most of us here but most of them are not even aware they did… and even to some extent some people will fight along side illfonic againts the fact that they did in fact scam as in falsly advertised the game as a stealthy 4 v 1.

The reason for that is cause we legit have the saved podcasts and blogs where they interview the director and other main people at illfonic.

Legit proof that they marketed the game as slow type stealth asymmetrical pvpe…

But it turned out to be a “FAST ASYMMETRICAL PVP with legit low stealth”

The thing that im waiting for is whole entire team to apologize and rework the game to properly work for consoles and computers, and also make the game based on what community wants and not what the shitty ego driven developers want and director too…

Turtle rock studios confirmed that they didnt want to work along side illfonic anymore cause they did not like how their director behaves and his mentality for making games.

Turtle rock is a studio where they listen to what their community wants while illfonic is ego andies pretending to add what people want… instead they wait for the things people suggest for example.

Random guy suggests for an RPG to be added as a meme
illfonic instantly adds it next update

This is not how you fucking make games u numnuts… i feel bad for the moderators for doing their dirty work… i feel bad for their REP in future lol…

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#107

Of the 5 Ideas I Suggested, You Only Addressed 3.
But let’s go.

  • You say that Stealth in a Game of this Genre is Useless. It is Totally Ridiculous !.
    Take a Test to see if Stealth is Useless or Not.
    When you go on a mission, come running and shooting in all directions and throwing grenades.
    And then, on another Mission, arrive Totally silent. Sneaky. Catching AI soldiers off guard.
    See if there is no difference and if stealth is so useless.

But then, you will ask me: “But what does the Stopwatch have to do with Stealth ?.”
Simple!. If you don’t have to worry about the clock, you can do things more calmly.
No hurry to give time to do the mission. Or the mission ending at the height of action!.

Detail: I have already reformulated this Idea. In the other Comments, I suggested that the Timer Option be On or Off. And give more Time Options. 15, 20, 25, 30 or 35 Minutes.

  • About the addition of ONE new currency, which would be exclusive to soldiers, and the VT would be an exclusive currency for predators, I have already mentioned what the benefits would be in other comments.
    Just You Read.

  • And talking about the Unification of Maps, You just want put Defect in the Idea.
    “Useless and Ugly”.
    What a Weak Argument!
    Give a Meaningful Reason Why You Think It Wouldn’t Be Good !.
    Maps are practically the same. It seems that if You walk just beyond the Limits of one of the Maps, You arrive at the other.
    So, it would be MUCH Better to have only 1 Big Map !.
    Missions would have to be more complex; The Predator’s Hunting Area would be Larger; New Missions would have to be Elaborated; We would need More Time to Complete the Missions or No Time, we would enjoy more the Map and the Fight against the Predator; Etc.

I do not know if You know this Information or if you already stopped to Realize, that some Missions of the “Excavation” Map are practically the same Missions that we have in other Maps !.
A single large map would open up new possibilities.

It will Continue saying that my Ideas that are with
Problems?.

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#108

I wouldn’t mind a big map, plus the 4 smaller maps. I’d take anything at this point.

No timer wouldn’t work in this game I think. Option to turn it on or off in private, I’m fine with. I think a better idea would be you can’t call the chopper till the 5 min mark. That way you have a bit of stealth gameplay for when the FT finish the mission with time to spare. Also prevents premades from bum rushing to the exfil.

Separate coins for preds is a bad idea. The only reason some pred mains play FT is for the V. Having individual coins would make the que times for pred extremely long. I think the only way it could work is if the FT can pick up cash (currency) And V (xp or some other thing). But if you die, the pred can pick up all the V you collected in the same way it can pick up your OWLF tape.
This will also provide that extra thrill of ‘oh fuck, if I die i’ ll lose all my V, better keep low and move quietly’. I feel it would rake up the tension a bit.

#109

Why would you do this if there’s no reason to play stealth when going in guns blazing does the same thing way faster and requires no coordination in a public match?
That makes stealth useless by definition, and the pred leaps a couple times to find you at one of three compounds.

Combining everything into one DayZ sized map for the same exact gamemode would just be tedious. Running from mission area to mission area is already dumb downtime & mishmashing all the maps together is a complete rework of the game.
Rendering that much foliage decimates CPU speeds you can say goodbye to this game on PS4 without some insane corner cutting. Game already runs poorly with basically no AI.

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#110

Hey that was me although I did also say it should be heat seeking but oh well you win some you lose some.

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#111

You already Sayed you take back the arm mutilation so that’s one point gone and the other half of that was gun buffing.

And the other point was either your point either your same point on how quantity should determine cost which means everything has to suck which we already countered multiple times or it’s some new idea you have that’s completely vague.

I.E they were unessacary to mention.

Is this supposed to affect the predator? Or just the A.I because the Predator can tell where you regardless.

And if it’s the A.I oh no what a big deal.

No it won’t. People will still bum rush because it’s more affective than stealth. It’ll lead to people camping more than stealth plays.

That’s fine.

Ya I read them. No it doesn’t. If you only added one new currency and changed nothing else it makes it worse. Pred would be stuck farming daily challenges and FT would be stuck farming matches. You would need to alter other factors such as pick up rate and the Pred actauly receiving VT as a reward for his matches. The actual addition of a second currency would actually make it worse.

No it wouldn’t. At most you walk from one map, to the other. What does that do? It’s no different from walking from the train yard to the camp to the village in derailed.

No we wouldn’t. Missions could be just as short because we wouldn’t have to scale the whole map. Like certain missions we have now. What you want is longer more elaborate missions. Making a huge map doesn’t make that happen. We could just as easily have that gen mission on Overgrowth on this super map.

So a completely new map with new terrain and assets reuses missions. So a copy and pasted map should yeild new results.

Not how that works.

#112

But that’s what I said…

Today, the 4 Small Maps seem to be in the same place.

It’s the same forest.

They are only a little distant from each other.

So a Big Map would be Better.

About the Time Limit, I didn’t quite understand your suggestion.

But if you think it would also be a good idea, that the timer could be turned on or off, it’s cool too.

But on the Coins, I repeat: If Players are Playing as FT Soldiers just to accumulate VT, I think they are not enjoying the Game in the right way.

But your idea that when Killing the Soldier, the Predator Recovers the VT, this would also result in the VT Gain for the Predator.

I just don’t understand how they didn’t understand my suggestion yet.
It’s so simple!.

#113

Mauler senses are tingling

Adding a second currency doesn’t fix that. It just makes it worse. You’d have to change other factors to make it work. And even then why not keep the other changes and leave the second currency since dividing the currency into two only separates them.

#114

Not!. Calm down!. Didn’t say about removing arm mutilation.
Write right!.
What I speak WRONG was about the Regeneration of the Predator’s Limbs after a Major Attack, such as a S-R3D Shot Sequence, or a Rocket Launch or a Grenade Explosion.
And Yes, I talked about the Adjustment of some Weapons because They are not causing the Expected Damage;

The Predator will have to hunt you down first, right ?.
If You are Stealthy, and Do Not Easily Demonstrate Your Position, He Will Have More Difficulty Finding You !.
This is kind of obvious !.
The same goes for AI. If You kill the Soldiers one by one, silently, they will not activate the Alarm and Call for reinforcements.

It is up to the Players to Run. But one thing You Can’t Deny: What about the Predator Traps ?. Running You easily fall into Traps.
Now, by going with more caution, you end up avoiding being caught off guard by these Traps.

Well, about the Coins, I think I was not able to convince them with my Idea.

But a Higher VT Collection Rate needs to be made then.

Perhaps taking into account, the Number of AI Soldiers Killed by the FT, and a Quantity is distributed to each Player, according to that Number of Kills;
For example, I killed 30 AI soldiers.
There could be a VT Multiplier. X100, X200, X300, X400.
I killed 35 AI soldiers.
35 X300 = 10,500 VT.
And for the Predator, He could also collect VT.
For example, my Soldier had 1,300 VT. If He is Killed, the Predator gets that amount of VT.
If it is a Claim Kill, it also multiplies the Quantity of VT.

My Friend, Just Two Questions on Maps: Isn’t it a Game on Hunting Ground ?.
Wouldn’t a Much Larger Hunting Area be MUCH Better ?.

#115

In order to regenerate a limb you have to lose a limb.

There are 3 locations you can be in a given time in the majority of the matches.

Not that hard to find.

Not to mention the dead A.I and the fact that you garunteed to spawn across the map.

Or I could kill everyone before the alarm is called.

There’s one trap in the entire game, and it’s considered useless as an actual “trap”.

Because a second currency doesn’t actually do anything beneficial.

By default? Absolutely not.

#116

Un unico mapa, estaria bien un mundo abierto

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#117

“To regenerate a member, you need to lose a member.”
This is obvious.
But I was thinking that the Predator Medical Kit allowed Him to regenerate a Lost Limb.
But then they corrected me, showing that the Kit allows Him to cauterize Wounds.

"There are 3 locations where you can be at any given time in most matches.

It is not so difficult to find.

Not to mention dead AI and the fact that you came together to spawn across the map. "

Are you saying that there are Points on the Map where it is possible to Hide from the Predator ?.

Yes. Unfortunately, AI is “Dead”.
I agree with you.

“Or I could kill everyone before the alarm is called.”

Yes, but the chance that you will prevent at least 1 AI soldier from activating the alarm is very small.
It depends a lot on the mission too.

“There is a trap in the whole game, and it is considered useless as a real” trap “.”

Where are these Traps ?.
The Predator who places these Traps.
And if the Soldier comes running through the Woods, the chance of you being caught by the Trap is much greater !.

“Because a second coin does nothing beneficial.”

Yes!. That part of your point of view You already made it very clear.
What do you have to say about my other suggestion regarding Coins ?.

“By default? Absolutely not.”

What do you mean “By default?” ?.
The question was simple and objective.
Wouldn’t a much larger hunting area be much better ?.

With a Larger Map, the Predator would be Forced to Track the Soldiers.
And with a Larger Map, Illfonic could place more Items within the Map that would force Exploration, apart from a New Variety of more Complex Missions.

#118

Exactly. You went back on your idea so I didn’t mention it.

No I’m saying your easy to find

It’s not that difficult. Besides 9/10 alarm pills aren’t that bad.

They’re easy to find without going slow. Especially with their audio.

The fact that a map is larger does not make it better.

While I like this you’d have to massively rework tracking as well as giving preds a significant buff to compensate.

Not to mention this would be a hundred times better on a map actauly designed for it.

Unless the FT doesn’t care which will happen. Especially in comp.

Larger doesn’t mean better missions. Just that it takes longer to get to point A to point B. (And that’s if all the OBJ’s aren’t in the same area)

#119

A larger map would allow for more options and easier to make missions better and longer that way.
It just has to implemented right.

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#120

God forbid you have to fight enemy soldiers huh?
You want to completely avoid the predator it seems.
Given how easy it is to kill him I dont see why that’s the case.

The bear trap is useless.
If you run into it its cause you’re not paying attention.

And with good teams even if you get caught usually the other guys cover you so by the time the predator switches weapons theres no point in trapping someone in the first place.

They’re extremely easy to destroy and detect.
They are worthless.

Adding a secondary currency, is the right word btw not coin, would be pointless.
Sure you could add it but there would be no real point.

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