Patch Notes 1.06

You broke your game Illfonic? What are you doing? Patches for balance tweaks should be SMALL and INCREMENTAL. This is game altering.

There is so much bad introduced in this patch it is not even funny.

Playing as Predator requires a bit of skill. I see a lot of players on this forum complaining about how the Predator is broken, weak, etc etc. It does not play like a standard FPS. You guys created him right since you allowed us to try the demo weekend. He was not broken!

Many times we see a hunter Predator rushing a 4-man FT. THEY AREN’T SUPPOSED TO DO THIS. This is why the FT eats them alive. Anyone who has even watched the movies understands this. The FT is strongest when they stay together. Predators job is to isolate and capitalize when they make a mistake (IE - splitting up). If you play as a predator and cannot do this simple task, stop playing as him. Even the Berserker should not be rushing the full team as that is a gamble. Predator toys with his victims, cat and mouse style.

Before this patch, I have played against GREAT predators. Most people cannot play as pred well. It may be that they need to play a bit more. Perhaps, Illfonic, make additional tutorials or single player missions for the Predator to help close this skill gap. Do not just arbitrarily BUFF a class because people are crying because they do not know how to play it. The class was FINE before the patch. There was tweaking needed on the weapons yes, but small and incremental.

I will admit I am not a very good predator. But that is because I have not completely learned how to play as him. I try to go too much to get immediate gratification (as in rushing in for a kill). My brother on the other hand does really well, and that was from the get go in his first starts. He wins 80% of his matches. However, he waits, uses his utilities and bides his time waiting on FTs to make mistakes (which most do). RUSHING is not a viable option as him. He understands how this character is meant to be played.

Issues with this patch already:

  1. Game is freezing even just doing customizing of your characters. I cannot scroll between helmets (or anything) seamlessly anymore. There is a 3-5 sec delay each time, which is insufferable. -Many people in this thread are already complaining of this. THIS IS NEW.

  2. Loot crate Veritanium reduction? - Are you serious?!??!?? There are so many duplicates that I typically keep losing Veritanium. If I was lucky to get a red, then hey +750 gave me an extra chance. But as it stood I was losing it with duplicates on most crates. This change was not needed. And with how much it costs to just outright buy a Predator Skin (25K+?!?!?), IS INSANE. You should of left it in place or how about add more items.

  3. (Hunter) Predators are now rushing against all 4 FT AND WINNING. This is not how the game is supposed to be played. I have played 10 matches as FT, and this is how they are playing because THEY CAN NOW. They rush in, get 2 quick kills WHILE everyone is firing on them and it is game over at this point. - 4FTv1Pred - FT should almost ALWAYS win. This is the balance. Any number as it goes down 3v1, 2v1, 1v1, favors the predator more. If Predators can now do this (4v1), there is no point to playing. Skill and being tactical is how you win as Predator.

  4. “Mud up” icon no longer visible after first mudding. Now have to spam to find one.

  5. Ammo and Med crates are NON-existent now. I will agree that there were too much at one point but now they are no where to be found. Plus you nerfed the ammo pack and how much ammo it gives. Why not make the FT just run around with Knives at this point? There was no need to lower the ammo/med packs the FT carry as they did not give the amount that the static ones around the map did. Since you nerfed those, you should of left the FT packs in place.

  6. What is with the re-balance of the ammo/med weight? An assault should be able to carry 1 of those, a stim, and grenades? Now they can’t? This needs to be adjusted. Maybe make it that only one or the other of these can be carried (Ammo OR med) UNLESS the player is support class.

  7. Nothing wrong with a ton of AI spawning. This creates a challenge for both Pred and FT. You should of kept this.

There are plenty of bugs that need fixing before this patch:

  1. Parrying needed fixing.
  2. Audio bugs constantly. - Weird firing when no one was firing. Helicopter noises in lobby or when exiting a match.
  3. Long queue times.
  4. Decrease predator’s footstep sounds and his vocals so it’s harder to pinpoint where he is.
  5. Put a cool down on FT being able to spam pred location. Make it so if they are right when they spot him they can redo, but if wrong, put a cool down so they can’t just spam.
  6. Loading into the queue and not being able to select where you would land or change your gear to suit your team better because time already ran out!
  7. Loading to queue and waiting forever for it to fill up.
  8. Predator falling randomly out of the tree without pressing anything. Or getting stuck while leaping.
  9. Have to reload before doing any action item with certain weapons. (More important to heal / revive a team mate / do an action object (like get in the chopper) then reload. Reload should be last on list.

I guess I’ll be back when you release (and fix some of this shit) in 1.7.

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Great, great changes honestly.

Played a couple of games as Fireteam and as Predator and everything is soooo balanced now.

Honestly guys, good job.

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do you prefer Op beserker with combi stick or a dude who is actually playing it like a predator using his plasma caster ?

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I don’t want to play at 30fps on the PS4 Pro as a Predator against 60fps players on PC players.

Hate to say but im done with this game. GL to this game still

Wow, looking forward to testing these balancing changes! Man @Illfonic is on point with these patches — 2 patches within 7 days! 😷 🤙👍

The community appreciates your effort, communication transparency and listening to our feedback.

I also hope this game has plenty of DLC in it’s future, for there’s so many possibilities that can be leveraged from the films.

Lastly, do players now have the ability to invite and communicate cross play matches? My sister and I would like to play with our cousins that are on PC.

Cheers,
Aaron

To War_Reaver
Man, you told us about “you must learn play as predator better” but seems like you can’t play as fireteam well and at this moment you must to learn how play fireteam. And in original movie predator easy kills all specops members.

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This should help a lot with reducing the effectiveness of cheapy-boi tactics…

Knife got a much needed Nerf, so Scout Knifers will stop bring such a death sentence for low-mid skill level Preds.

Combistick also got hit hard, so the exfilsite Combi+Berserker Melee rush should be nullified.

Second Wind now blands FT, so second wind will feel more fair and not just be “Sitting duck mode”

Reinforcements take longer now, so if feels like less of a waste of time/resources to kill more than one FT before they call reinforcements as pred has a realistic window for killing the last 1-2 survivors before reinforcements show up.,

I’m satisfied…

Sure, theres things i wasn’t keen on.

Like reduced wait time on some of Fireteams objectives. I felt like skilled fireteams were already getting to the Exfiltration too fast…

And the Plasma-Caster nerf was kinda out of nowhere.
I felt it was balanced enough being such a high skill weapon that blew your cover and ate up your energy,
(I use the Bow anyway, so whatever)

But all n all, this was a good patch.,

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This one threw me off too, everything else seems fine.

If you look at the survey it has over 400 players that made a response. It is not biased. It is based on the fact that the majority of players feel that the Predator is weak and the Fireteam is OP. Read through the results and see if you come to a different conclusion.

I just noticed that the 2 major weapons that the developers nerfed for Predator, the majority of votes said that they were fine and did not need nerfing at all.

You like to support ILLPHOPIC do you??

ILLPHOPIC had their chance to be one good developer, they are trash, they destroyed the entire predator’s legacy, this license should of gone to another team developers, TRASH MOVE ILLPHOPIC, there’s no way that this patch is good, far from good. TRASH IN ENGLISH…

Finally!

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I think buff the pred and nerf the ft is not a good idea, just buff pred, because right now, if you found a good pred you have no chance

Most of pred weapon are “useless” like disk

And the riffle secondary weapon for ft is useless too.

but something in the update are interessting.

But just lower the chance too drop a double on lootbox… I just open 250 cases with only double…

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Wells said Illfonic I hope you read this comment

FT is a standard FPS play style. I play just fine as the FT.

The predator is a completely different play style you need to learn how to use. I give a huge kudos to the developer for creating something original. (Which means, needs to be learned).

We didn’t see what he did in the movie to the spec ops members. All we can go off is how he took out Dutch’s team - which this game is based off of.

EDIT: To rmngrnk - The comment about what Predator did to spec ops, are you one of the crap predator players that believes you should be allowed to rush and wipe a full 4 FT in 2 mins? Cause, yeah, that’s totally a fun game…

Play on pc.

Have a good Gaming PC but I hate Epic. Maybe on Steam in the future😉

Uma vergonha não consegui jogar como Predador !!! Inaceitável !!! Devolvam o dinheiro seus !!!

You can one shot and down a FT member with full health as long as it is charged up. What it might of been was the leaves blocking it. Thankfully it looks like they addressed it.