PC crossplay is completely disadvantaged for playstation players. Crossplay needs to be disabled until next gen if there is a next gen version. PC Players can spot you anywhere on the map and snipe you do to their graphical output. Ps4 players fireteam and predator face an unequal playing field. Macro setup allow pc fireteam members to fire one shot that has the impact of a full sniper clip thanks to macros. Keyboard shortcut allow pc predators to switch effortlessly through weapons where ps4 players have to bring up weapon wheel. Macros for all the minigames like traps can be negated with one button push for pc players. I personally have been sniped many of times by pc players sitting on the roof in derailed sniping from halfway across the map. They see predator easily cloaked or not. It would be a practically impossible to balance this game as long as crossplay is enabled with pc players. So please fix connectivity for those of us who hate playing against pc players they are ruining my experience everytime do to these inherit advantages. Not to mention the predator bugs in gameplay make it impossible to face a fireteam with more than 2 pc players. All a team has to do when you have 2 or more pc players is one spot the other snipe. They will know they can see you even it you peek your head up instant headshot. If a pc players knows general area you are in they spot the area and we get highlighted. Instantly. I hate playing pc players they think they are good when the way their system is set it allows for an unfair advantage. Truly unlevel playing field and for this to be a playstation exclusive for consoles there should be no reason why I cant play with strictly playstation players without being punished by extremely long wait times longer than the expected 10-15 mins for a match. Who wants to wait 10 minutes for a match only see 3-4 pc players that will ruin the experience of the match. It aint that they are super good players point and click mechanics are 10x easier to controlling the controller. Illfonic fix this fast please. I love the game but it is getting harder and harder to enjoy. Long wait times, pc players cheating, bugs on top of bugs, lack of maps and lack of variety in gameplay and gamemodes. When i played the demo I expected there to be more to the game upon purchase. Sad to say the damn demo was the entire game minus stupid ass unlockables and I paid $60 for this shit because the demo gameplay was fun and I thought there would be included with the game
Fooled the fuck outta me. I cannot stress the fact that i love the game at its base and highly disappointed at continued flawed state of the, continious money grabbing dlc when things like mechanics are all fucked up. Pc/ps4 are 2 totally different experiences for the same game. Disable crossplay, fix bugs and server connectivity for those of us who do not want to play against pc players. I know manu playstation players who hate playing against pc players but do to inconvenience of horrendously longer than normal wait times we feel we have no choice but to enable crossplay if we actually want to play the game. 1-2 pc players or more in a lobby with a ps4 predator if you all tracked stats you will see the fireteam has 10-20x the success of a ps4 team vs ps4 predator. You will notice that all pc fireteams vs pc predator just provides for a much more leveled playing field same would apply to ps4 ft vs ps4 predator much better balanced match.
PC Crossplay
You can manually disable crossplay if it bothers you that much
manually disable it.
Its not a hard option to find. You arenât being punished for playing the game with only PS4 players - the wait time is increased because you are playing with a smaller pool of people. If illfonic forcibly disabled crossplay there wouldnât be a decrease in wait time.
If you want wait times to decrease then spread the word about the potential of this game and how good it is. Convince people to buy it, stream your games to YouTube- or better still get them to watch streams by
bloodthirstylord -
Or
Whodknee -
This game isnât call of duty - it doesnât have millions of players its too niche. The wait time will be longer. You have to convince people to play a game like this because the mechanics arenât just point and shoot. Its a difficult game to learn. Iâve convinced 6 friends to buy this game. One of them has it on PS4 and PC alsoâŚ
Some people donât mind crossplay, personally as someone who plays both PS4 and PC I feel disadvantaged as the FT on PS4 - the resolution is disgusting on a 4k TV like 1080i with 30fps. Its like playing the game drunk.
Playing as predator is a different ball game though, there isnât such a disadvantage unless your entire build relies on precision aiming like the bow. I tend to either keep crossplay turned on or jump to my gaming rig.
I know the post is long but obviously you did not read the part where i addressed manually turning off crossplay. When you turn off crossplay you can not find a match because it takes twice as long. So again i asked for illfonic to fix the server issues that come along with turning crossplay. Im no idiot i know i can turn it off manually but i also know inadvertently i will be punished for disabling this feature do to the servers being unable to fill a lobby and ps4 players feeling hand tied to crossplay enable for this specific reason. Not everyone has or wants the luxury to play on pc. So great for you that you have that choice sir. Next time please leave the obvious statements out if you did not read entire post sir. Seems you missed the entire point and as pc players you failed to address the inherit advantages like you said just fire up the rig if ps4 gameplay is unsatisfactory, that alone proves what I said remains to be true. The games has a less flawed experience than ps4 and do to limitations of ps4 as oppose to pc crossplay is naturally unfair and will remail that way. As ps4 only player I have crushed my fair share of all pc teams but as bugs persist along with inherit advantage of movement, input latency, visual clarity of resolution, macro setup, keyboard shortcut keys eliminating things like weapon wheel usage creates to many advantages especially when you add them all together. So if your comment was simply to say enable crossplay yourself your own ignorance allowed you to skip the entire point altogether. If crossplay is enabled manually then connectivity and finding matches become next to impossible foolish sir, obviously I did manually disable crossplay to know how it will effect my ability to actually find a match to play. Let alone a full lobby.
Foolish human I said in the post that manually disabling crossplay punishes the player with even more connectivity issues. If you lack the concentration and or focus to read the entire post and still keep the intent of the post. Then shut the fuck up because you sound dumb ass fuck with that comment when that was addressed in original post. I aint ask your opinion so keep it to yourself idiot! I made suggestion for illfonic, i ainât said shit to any fanboy who believes this game is flawless i paid my money for this game and I am providing feedback to who makes the game and how they can improve on the overall experience. I aint ask if anyone agrees i stated my experiences with the game even with crossplay off. To bad short attention spanned idiots wont get far enough in the post while being able to counter the post with a valid comment.
You expect me to read the whole thing?
Do you work for illfonic, donât blame me because you got A.D.D., was that short enough for you JR.
I do not work for illfonic and thank you that was perfect length, no swear words or pointless ranting
10/10 reply
It was long and I did notice you addressed this so I went back to point something out. Maybe you didnât read what I posted?
There arenât server issues from disabling crossplay.
The issue is about player numbers. Letâs say there are 5000 players on PC and 5000 players on PS4 active at any one time who both have crossplay enabled (thats probably the majority of players), you can draw a match from a pool of 10,000 players.
If crossplay is disabled you can only get a match from the 5000 players on PS4 (if they have crossplay enabled then they may have matched with PC and PS4 players already), and those who also have crossplay turned off.
That means in theory your 8 minute predator queue becomes 16 minutes as youâre actively blacklisting half of the player base.
I donât think forcibly disabling crossplay would fix this, and for PC you may well be dooming a small community as I cant imagine there to be anywhere near as many PC players as PS4 due to to the ease and convenience of owning a console.
The best option to level the playing field is to introduce controller filtering. Turning off the option to play against mouse and keyboard- as some PC players prefer a controller anyhow. If they choose the control scheme from the off and choose a controller then they get into the PS4 lobbies.
Also M&K options for PS4 wouldnt be a bad thing.
Okay. I parsed through your argument, and I find you lacking. First off, I feel like there is no difference between pred players based on their platform. Its the fireteam that it becomes more obvious. Second, your wait times get longer when you exclude portions of the players. Maybe start a campaign to have everyone turn off crossplay, but donât put that on the developers who sold the game based on the promise of crossplay. Third, if playing with PC fireteam is so awful, why do you want to punish those PC preds? What did they do to you? Finally, you are blaming bugs and everything else to say thatâs why you lose against PC FT. But guess what? You will find a plethora of pred players who will show you how they demolish four pre made PC FT. You might want to improve instead of whining about changing things. Iâm a PC player, and not every PCFT snipes across the map. Iâve ran into 2, one on each side. However, I think your problem is that the PS FT share a single braincell, because Its rare to find one that isnât an absolute idiot. Iâm not talking about aiming, but teamwork, knowing when to reinforce, killing boars, etc. Iâve only come across a handful that have shown that they gained their levels by winning, instead of losing a lot more. So go start that campaign, get everyone to turn crossplay off so you can play predator and steamroll idiots instead of improving. Thatâll show 'em.
Iâve been more keen on keeping crossplay on.
Especially since spam spotting has been removed!
Itâs fun.
Itâs like golf.
Full on knowing someone may have better clubs than you (PC runs this game at a wayyyyy better rate), but skill prevails eventually.
:)
Thanks for the reply you say Iâm lacking skill laughing my ass off. Bro you seem to blame ps4 players for not being as skilled as pc players when pc gaming does not take skill. This is exactly what I mean. Bro I crush pc fireteams constantly. As far as wanting pc predators being punished. Wtf type of argument is that when the playing field is more level. Same macro options, keyboard shortcuts, visual clarity the pc offer as opposed to console seems you like you built in advantages not 1 built in advantage did you address like macro setup, keyboard shortcuts, graphic card capabilities instead im a bad predator who do not know how to kill pc direteam. That is turly laughable bro. Somehow you skipped all the main points to say Iâm garbage as predator. Typical pc players because yaâll game allows yall to build in these advantage against console players all console players or most are either dumb or garbage and all pc players are smart coordinated. Idiot that ainât a simple coincidence. Funny your experience as a pc player with ps4 players seems to be similar to mine, it is eay to notice how much easier the gameplay is on pc(pont click baby damn near instantly) seems that you are saying pc players on fireteam have a disadvantage when playing with ps4 players. Funny we saying the samethings just from 2 different persectives. Mine from predator (ps4 perspective vs 4 man pc fireteam) yours from a pc fireteam member playing with/against ps4 predator and fireteam. Funny we both notice the difference in gameplay but yet all pc players are inherently smarter. You sound dumb ass fuck bro you obviously arenât that good. I have personally had many 1 pc player fireteams attempt to carry ps4 players by spotting constantly and sniping and it aint because all ps4 players are dumb, lack skill or coordination as a unit. It would e for the reasons previously mentioned by me your dumb ass assumes is just skill of pc players. Grow up bro, I assure you if you ever play on ps4 the difference would be so obvious you would never play on ps4 as oppose to pc.
I watch your content bro and I get your point but it seems because you got options you are willing to overlook my point. Ps4 players canât be blamed for grainy images that pc donât have or as much of. It is not about being ok with crossplay or not, the point is that balancing pc & ps4 crossplay is impossible because of what pcâs are capable of. If I as a ps4 play could not loose any functionality while setting up short cuts it would level the field more. If ps4 was able to process inputs and output 120 fps 60fps like a pc constantly then ps4 players could spot and do things like pc players. If ps4 players had they ability to point and click as oppose to drag a crosshair their aim would be just as accurate and deadly as pc players. You can not balance that with the current state of consoles and this would apply to all games crossplay enabled not just predator. I just happened to love this game.
Iâm just gonna comment on the Crossplay part.
Iâm not really bothered by Crossplay.
Plus illfonic has a way to disable it.
Probably for these reasons so players donât feel like they HAVE to play against PC or PS4.
But, personally.
I like it.
Itâs like a hard mode at random.
Whenever I see PC in the FT, my brain instantly goes from.
âOh this is gonna be either really bad, or really goodâ.
Cause itâs a challenge.
My last PC match-up as a PS4 Predator.
Easily spotted form across the map in trees.
So I played on the ground and simply came up with counters to their plans.
But it was challenge all the way through and I enjoy that about this game.
Not saying my fellow PS4 FTâs are not a challenge.
But, my tactics for PS4 FT are more relaxed and casual.
Compared to a PC teams.
So honestly just speaking from my experience, I think itâs fine.
If Illfonic did disable cross-play completely for everyone.
It would suck for someone like me or others similar that enjoy playing against PCâs occasionally.
Fam I get excited to see a 4 man pc team only because on ps4 it truly takes a high skill level just to compete but there always those few who abuse these advantages dragging all the fun from the game. You mean to tell me you never knocked off 2-3 pc fireteam members go to revive to have a pc players snipe all the way across the map in second wind that shit aint fun if he was on ps4 these abuses in mechanics are impossible. As with anything else though many players cheat abuse bad mechanics and pc players are the worst at abusing bad mechanics. So let players with ability to also abuse bad mechanics go at it. A pc predator has never been sniped across map from ps4 players because we canât see him. That ainât skill bro that is an unfair advantage. Some pc squads spot and snipe so hard they hunt the predator becuase all they have to do is point and click. Until consoles perform same as pc my opinion remains the same. Pc will have this natural advantage in any game or situation hell some ppl like playing tlou in survival mode donât mean that is for everyone.
Okay. So youâre just here to lie and argue, got it.
You crush PC teams constantly? I thought it was impossible if there were 2 PC FT? You said that in your opening. Make up your mind. Either, youâre good, and turning crossplay off wonât matter, or you arenât and you want crossplay off to pretend youâre good, but you have to pick one, you canât take both.
Because Predator play is different than FT, the lack of access to the keyboard and mouse doesnât affect its play like the FT does. Having played against both platforms of predators, their average difficulty is roughly the same. So putting the PC preds only against PC is punishing because of your undecided skill level.
Iâm blaming PS4 FT for being idiots. Having a keyboard doesnât make you better at sticking together. Having a mouse doesnât help when you need to choose when to reinforce. Using a controller doesnât hurt you anymore if you decide to charge the full health predator by yourself. I donât have these problems when playing with a PC member, only with the PS4 FT. Iâm not commenting on accuracy, or things actually affected by whatâs in your hands. Iâve only found a handful of PSFT players who seem to understand the game they are playing, but even having one PCFT means that someone will know how to do teamwork, and who knows the games mechanics.
Now, as to you being an asshole, learn to read. Iâve taken what youâve said and pointed out all your flaws, and youâve ignored mine, or decided to forget how to comprehend english. Not my problem.
Bro I ainât here to argue with you. I posted this to developers of the game you came here arguing my point on why crossplay with pc is unfair.
Simple questions to you.
1.) can you change and improve graphic output on pc? (Y or N)
2.) can you create keyboard shortcut for one button press?
3.) can you on pc have macros set up to avoid using weapon to switch from primary directly to shoulder canon?
4.) cam you on pc combine multiple actions into a series of of button presses using macros?
If your comments are not addressing these core issues of system limitations and capabilities than you are the asshole arguing with me about how good you think i am or not just because I mentioned these facts. I do not personally care if you think ps4 ft members are potatoes bro. Idgaf there are tons of potatoes on all platforms. This aint a bias opinion your comments are all biased opinions. I am referring to actual facts that can backed up by data not my opinion of pc players. Has nothing to do with who is the controls s my point pc gives all players an advantage good or not. This would based solely off system performance not an opinion of who knows what they are doing! You continue to argue irrelevant points to the topic at hand. Do not reply if you cant answer those few questions honestly to yourself bro.
Most of these points were made a lot stupider in your opening statement, and I did address other things you stated in it. Because you choose to switch focus now doesnât negate what youâve said before. 1) Yes, because not everyone has a top tier PC. 2) You can switch which buttons do what. 3) I have no clue what you are trying to say, but I think the answer is the same as 2. 4) No. Most actions disable doing other actions. The most the macros do is get out of nets faster, not bear traps, or allow you to shoot faster, just the nets.
If you want facts, use them, instead of throwing you opinion around as if it is fact. Your message is filled with anecdotes. Full of them, some have nothing to do with limitations, just your own poor quality of play. Youâre asking for fixes that cannot happen for a number of reasons because they ainât broke. Iâm going to skip through most of it because its just whining and Iâve addressed it previously and youâve ignored it, but here at the end, You keep saying that PSpred and PCpred are as vastly different as the FT, and that is also without fact, just an invention to help you prove your point.
It depends on the type of PC player youâre facing though. I enjoy fighting PC players that donât cheat and donât constantly spot me. I can understand your frustration though. I finally turned crossplay off for the first time today because I was on a losing streak against some tough PC sniper teams.
I thought fighting a PC team of supports/ Dutch was tough but fighting a team with Recons and Scouts is insane!
Well thats a fair argument.
Iâm hoping that this game is supported into the PS5 era with the much needed graphical upgrade. Spotting the Predator on PS4 isnât as simple because youâre handicapped due to the interlaced image.
The controller isnât as good as a mouse and keyboard and the game just runs terribly on PS4.
My buddy is a hardcore console gamer, when we were trying to get crossplay parties working a few weeks back and I resigned to having to play on PS4 with him I was trying to explain to him how huge the gulf is in graphical fidelity between a PS4 and a Ryzen 9 PC with an RTX 2080Ti and he couldnât grasp it.
To him he says that the PS4 version is âbuttery smoothâ.
I was like⌠you need to see the difference by physically seeing it, not watching a YouTube videoâŚ
Saying that he also says he canât tell a difference between 30fps and 60fps gameplay đ