Poll: Should Jungle hunter 87 be released for everyone to unlock or purchase? (Stop posting about it. Poll says all)

[Finessology]

I’m gonna go ahead and give you the benefit of the doubt & assume your google translator messed up and you don’t actually realize what you’re trying to communicate to people

[Cadillackid]

I like turtles

[Lazycollinator]

@Cadillackid

I like spamming “I like turtles” on multiple threads

I noticed

[Slasher_Clone]

I like turtles too man.

[DhRauta]

[LazyHunter]

@Slasher_Clone

It isn’t a threat, I did say that above. The line he crossed is accusing me of abuse. The way he phrased it, implied a threat if it was true.

I never attacked his family, or his real life. Not my thing to take internet arguments into the real world. Accusing someone of abusing their family is just that. A real attack, and that is not ok.

He can make all the jokes about breakdowns he wants, but they stopped being jokes when he implied abuse. Nothing he has said since then makes what he said initially any better.

I’m not going to tag a mod, but if they read this it’s their call.

It is not a joke. I have seen people acting like you in real life and their families suffered because of this. Therefore it is normal for me to express this concern. This way you build a better society by helping others and it is very likely others will help you in tough times.

@Finessology

I’m gonna go ahead and give you the benefit of the doubt & assume your google translator messed up and you don’t actually realize what you’re trying to communicate to people

Address a specific part which needs a clarification for you.

@DhRauta

“I make fake news to hide the truth and manipulate others.”

Where I said that I want the pre-order '87 skin (inspired by the movie, not accurate) for free for anyone?

Have you seen a list of my EGS transactions I shared in one of my comments?

Does not it say that I pre-ordered the game?

[Fire]

Stop playing innocent will you?
You keep going and going.

You ignore a lot of what is said to you, because you’re convinced youre right.
Let it go. You’re not proving anything.

Youre not right. You haven’t won.
Your just stubborn.

I dont know if they can see it, but you come off as a child who desperately seeks approval and validation and when you dont get it and people arent blindly completely agreeing with you, you just keep repeating yourself.

People who repeat themselves in that way are annoying.
Repeating something wont make it true.

[LazyHunter]

Lol. Double standards.

@Fire

Youre not right. You haven’t won.
Your just stubborn.

Yes, I won and you and your buddies are not happy about it.
Just immature emotional people spitting out nonsense and making up stories.

@Fire

I dont know if they can see it, but you come off as a child who desperately seeks approval and validation and when you dont get it and people arent blindly completely agreeing with you, you just keep repeating yourself.

People who repeat themselves in that way are annoying.
Repeating something wont make it true.

You should start addressing your buddies and yourself about your own childishness and repetitiveness first and foremost.

Again. This forum has its reputation created not by its own existence but the way people act here.
And it does not look good.

[Fire]

Please read carefully what I’m writing to you, because you ignoring some of my important points keeps us in a loop.

Dude. Stop thinking you’ve won. Stop thinking you’re right.
Those 2 things can only happen if you’ve convinced other people, and you haven’t convinced me.

You cant just simply think you’re right and then all of a sudden believe that’s the case.
I also told you, since this only deals with opinions, there can technically be no right or wrong.

You’re trying to act like your clever and smart.
You’re not. Not on the level you think you are.

Your approach might work on them, but it doesn’t work on me. Because I dont give a single fuck about about opinion.

Look you really want to continue this?
Fine. But I’m going to ask you to not keep repeating yourself or talking opinion to me ok?

Also, stop ignoring things I’m saying. You only focus on parts that you think you can twist into fuel for your perception. Its childish.

Remember. I’m not your enemy.

Believe it or not. I’m not doing this just to give you a hard time.

I just want to to take a step back, and stop with delusion that there can be a right or wrong here, when this is all opinion.

This whole situation isnt a math problem.
No matter what, what gets done it will be based off what they think is best.
There is no right or wrong answer.

You only pick and focus on technicalities but in the end, it’s still only your opinion.

So let’s try and end this shall we?

○○○You keep saying you’re right and you’ve won.
Speaking purely with facts, I want you to explain why you have.

For your answer you are not allowed to say because you stated a solution and no one found any flaws.
People pointed out flaws, and you ignored them.

Why? Because you need to STOP ignoring what people tell you.

Break yourself out of your perception.
Stop being selfish and self centered. ○○○

So answer that. Oh and try not to quote unless you’re going to respond to every single thing said.
Because you have a bad habit of only responding to some things, and not all.

For this one I honestly dont even see a need for you to quote tbh.

Btw I put some circles by the question i want you to answer. So focus on that.

Oh and as far as the double standards, I’ve called slasher stubborn, and told him the same thing I’ve told you. It’s all opinion.

Nobodies really won, it’s just the opposite side from you has a more agreeable point.
If they were to resell another model of jh, people would see it as reselling the same character and get pissed at it.

Bot only that, it would be unfair to those who preordered it.
I didnt pre order it, but all of this makes me sound like I did lol.

Oh and btw, last time when I changed your response poking fun at you, were I wrote your quote as saying, “hur hur hur my opinion is fact” I did that cause you kept trying to break down what I was saying with your opinion, not fact.

I told you man, I don’t deal with opinion.
But I wont stand for anyone stating their opinion as fact.
Which is what you’re doing. And have been doing.

So ya. Answer the question. Remember, only use fact, do not use opinion at all.

Oh, and dont try to twist it change anything I’ve said based on your perception, unless you clearly state that, that’s how you see it. Do not state your perception as fact either.

Try to just focus the question only if you can.

[Fire]

Oh another thing, I’ve only repeated my self because you keep doing so. So you say the same thing you already have, and I simply remind you of my response.

You cause these loops.

[Gabonza]

Of course it should and will be. Having an exclusive item just for pre-orders is stupid. Game looked that it would die fast from the start and apparently it doesn’t do so well either. Jungle Predator is an opportunity to make some extra money which they shouldn’t just pass, as little as it may be. The only people who voted NO are just the people who already have it.

[Slasher_Clone]

I would vote no regardless.

It’s exclusive, I’m not a fan of preorders but if they do exist, it is wrong to release them.

There are over a hundred other Predators that could be added, some who look remarkably similar to JH. He is exclusive though.

Nothing wrong with your opinion, mines just different.

[Fire]

I don’t have it, and I’m saying it would be scummy for them to resell the skin.

So no, it’s not just those who preordered.

[LazyHunter]

@Fire

Dude. Stop thinking you’ve won. Stop thinking you’re right.
Those 2 things can only happen if you’ve convinced other people, and you haven’t convinced me.

Wrong. I never used a criteria system where convincing somebody is a vital factor.

@Fire

You cant just simply think you’re right and then all of a sudden believe that’s the case.
I also told you, since this only deals with opinions, there can technically be no right or wrong.

Wrong again. The truth is important which is not an opinion. My solution legally lets IllFonic release a movie accurate JH skin.

@Fire

You’re trying to act like your clever and smart.
You’re not. Not on the level you think you are.

Your opinion , not a fact. You and your buddies tried me and you failed.

@Fire

Your approach might work on them, but it doesn’t work on me. Because I dont give a single fuck about about opinion.

Your eristics do not work on me either.

@Fire

Look you really want to continue this?
Fine. But I’m going to ask you to not keep repeating yourself or talking opinion to me ok?

If you and your buddies repeat the same nonsense where I already answered all question. Then what do you expect? A different answer? Lol.

@Fire

Also, stop ignoring things I’m saying. You only focus on parts that you think you can twist into fuel for your perception. Its childish.

What do I ignore? Point it out then I can address it if somehow I missed it. And I do not twist anything. You and your buddies just act like immature people.

@Fire

Remember. I’m not your enemy.

Believe it or not. I’m not doing this just to give you a hard time.

I just want to to take a step back, and stop with delusion that there can be a right or wrong here, when this is all opinion.

You should not step up then. You guys just still try to get back at me after everything was already sorted out long time ago.
Also not everything is an opinion.

@Fire

This whole situation isnt a math problem.
No matter what, what gets done it will be based off what they think is best.
There is no right or wrong answer

One thing is definitely wrong. It is your buddies approach and their big ego. They have just picked up the wrong fight.

@Fire

You only pick and focus on technicalities but in the end, it’s still only your opinion.

Not an opinion. If IllFonic and Sony will decide to release a movie accurate version of JH, those who pre-ordered the game have no say in this matter because all promises were already fulfilled.

@Fire

You only pick and focus on technicalities but in the end, it’s still only your opinion.

So let’s try and end this shall we?

○○○You keep saying you’re right and you’ve won.
Speaking purely with facts, I want you to explain why you have.

For your answer you are not allowed to say because you stated a solution and no one found any flaws.
People pointed out flaws, and you ignored them.

Why? Because you need to STOP ignoring what people tell you.

Wrong. Read my previous answer. Those who pre-ordered the game have only right to the exclusive pre-order skin inspired by the movie. Nothing else. No different versions.

@Fire

Break yourself out of your perception.
Stop being selfish and self centered. ○○○

Wrong again. It is your buddies who are selfish and try to portray it as a scummy practice.

@Fire

Nobodies really won, it’s just the opposite side from you has a more agreeable point.
If they were to resell another model of jh, people would see it as reselling the same character and get pissed at it.

Wrong. I won because I have proven that everything is legal about releasing a different model of JH.
And it is people’s issue what they see whether it is ghosts, rainbows or unicorns. If they are right they can sue Sony over this.

@Fire

Bot only that, it would be unfair to those who preordered it.
I didnt pre order it, but all of this makes me sound like I did lol.

Wrong. Companies release changed models of products like every year. No one complains about it. It is the same thing here. One skin is exclusive, the other which is not a copy not. It is a customer choice if they want to wait and get a newer one or get the old one when it is still available.

@Fire

Oh and btw, last time when I changed your response poking fun at you, were I wrote your quote as saying, “hur hur hur my opinion is fact” I did that cause you kept trying to break down what I was saying with your opinion, not fact.

I told you man, I don’t deal with opinion.
But I wont stand for anyone stating their opinion as fact.
Which is what you’re doing. And have been doing.

So ya. Answer the question. Remember, only use fact, do not use opinion at all.

Oh, and dont try to twist it change anything I’ve said based on your perception, unless you clearly state that, that’s how you see it. Do not state your perception as fact either.

Try to just focus the question only if you can.

Wrong again. You need to separate opinions from facts e.g. when I pre-ordered the game and requested a refund after trying it out. Then buying it again with a coupon. It is a fact.
But opinion is that I think CH DLC Pred is more interesting than inspired JH Pred. Or that inspired JH is not movie accurate - the fact, not opinion.

To answer your two questions. It is up to you and your buddies.

@Fire

Oh another thing, I’ve only repeated my self because you keep doing so. So you say the same thing you already have, and I simply remind you of my response.

You cause these loops.

This was already answered. Therefore there is no need to repeat myself here.

[Fire]

Sigh. Two things. You wrote all that to try your hardest to change the focus of what I was saying, into something that i was clearly not even talking about.

A childish tactic because you want to change the setting to somewhere where you hold the advantage.

Stay on topic.

And second.
You’re still going off opinion,
And trying to convince everyone your opinion is fact.

Where you’re wrong is, simply because it gets tweaked, does not automatically make it something different.

Not in this sense.
Were not talking about two different versions, were talking about the same version.

It’s not like were talking about a movie and comic version.
No, its from the same exact source, therefore, the same thing.

So there you go. THATS FACT, NOT OPINION.
Your arguement would even be valid if we were talking original and reboot, but were not. We are talking from the same source.

See? This is fact, not opinion.

I asked you to answer one simple question.
You couldn’t even do that without trying to twist into your own delusion and keep up this struggle in some imaginary contest you created.

I told you. Your approach doesnt work on me.
So you want to claim you’ve won?

Then stop twisting up the facts to better suit your delusion, and stick to facts.
I dont care about your perception.
And that’s all your argument has been.

How you see it, and your opinion.
Which, typically theres nothing wrong with that.

But when you start trying to claim that as fact, I refuse to let that slide.

You havent won. You havent convinced me.

You’re more than welcome to try again and explain to me why you’ve won.

But no opinions. No changing the focus.

Because the topic was never about getting past the legal issues.
The topic is, how would simply updating the skin, be considered different?

You were right in a tiny sense, through a technicality.
But it still doesnt change what I said.

Given that were talking about the same source, it’s still the same thing. Same character.

And since I’m not going by opinion, my own perception, or twisting any information, I’m simply stating facts, I’ve won.

This round goes to me.

You can try again.
But if you come at me with a different topic when your speaking about this one.
Or try to warp information, or opinions, your point will become irrelevant.

It’s sad how you want to turn a conversation into a fucking contest because your so damn selfish and self centered.

[GreyBack]

I really don’t understand why anyone is bothering to try reasoning with this guy. Has his conduct at any point indicated he can be reasoned with? Do you think carefully worded responses pointing out flaws in his ‘arguments’ are going to achieve anything? Do you think pointing out that he’s won absolutely nothing will stop him claiming he has?

“You cannot reason people out of positions they didn’t reason themselves into”

Illfonic isn’t going to release a ‘new, better’ DLC JH - it’s obvious to everyone except this lunatic. This thread is just an infinite loop of bullshit about an inconsequential subject.

[Fire]

You’re not wrong. I just hate when people state their opinion as fact.

[Slasher_Clone]

The only criteria for winning he could possibly be using, is the troll one of keeping it going.

I am curious what will happen when OKH is on next, I can’t imagine he’ll think that personal attack is anything but wrong. Nothing he has said since indicated that he isn’t completely serious. He thinks he gave me a break down by going around in circles. The whole time I’ve been interacting with the rest of the community, 😆. Yep totally got me, sheesh.

It would be no different then someone saying…

“So when did you stop, beating your wife? (If) you crossed a line, I’m taking you out back.”

I made it clear multiple times I thought we were just arguing and that it was still fun to find new ways he was wrong (in my opinion).

Just ignore him till Monday.

[DhRauta]

Fake news? About me owning a truffle dog? Wtf you must be crazy

[LazyHunter]

@Fire

Sigh. Two things. You wrote all that to try your hardest to change the focus of what I was saying, into something that i was clearly not even talking about.

A childish tactic because you want to change the setting to somewhere where you hold the advantage.

Stay on topic.

Sigh. As expected you still try your pathetic eristics on me.

And what topic? I have not changed it at all.

@Fire

And second.
You’re still going off opinion,
And trying to convince everyone your opinion is fact.

Wrong. I already told to start separating opinions from facts. And I gave you examples of it.

Again no, I do not try to convince anyone to anything. You just want push your narrative based on lies but it does not work on me.

@Fire

Where you’re wrong is, simply because it gets tweaked, does not automatically make it something different.

Not in this sense.
Were not talking about two different versions, were talking about the same version.

Wrong again. It is your narrative. For example you have a head and a pair of hands and legs, so I do. But you are not me and I am not you.

@Fire

It’s not like were talking about a movie and comic version.
No, its from the same exact source, therefore, the same thing.

Again there is no advert that people will receive anything besides one version of skin inspired by the movie. It is fact, not opinion.
You see lies do not work on me.

@Fire

So there you go. THATS FACT, NOT OPINION.
Your arguement would even be valid if we were talking original and reboot, but were not. We are talking from the same source.

Lol, the key words are one skin and inspired. That is fact and your twisted narrative does not work. You cannot win any case against Sony because there was no false advertising.

@Fire

See? This is fact, not opinion.

Wrong, it is your opinion.

@Fire

I asked you to answer one simple question.
You couldn’t even do that without trying to twist into your own delusion and keep up this struggle in some imaginary contest you created.

I told you. Your approach doesnt work on me.
So you want to claim you’ve won?

Wrong again. I won by completely debunking your nonsense.

@Fire

Then stop twisting up the facts to better suit your delusion, and stick to facts.
I dont care about your perception.
And that’s all your argument has been.

It is you who is twisting. That is why you lost.

@Fire

How you see it, and your opinion.
Which, typically theres nothing wrong with that.

But when you start trying to claim that as fact, I refuse to let that slide.

You havent won. You havent convinced me.

Read yourself again before posting your own nonsense.

I hace won with raw facts and I do not have to convince you or anyone else. The truth is the king.

@Fire

You’re more than welcome to try again and explain to me why you’ve won.

But no opinions. No changing the focus.

Everything was already explained to you. But you have issues with accepting facts.

@Fire

Because the topic was never about getting past the legal issues.
The topic is, how would simply updating the skin, be considered different?

You were right in a tiny sense, through a technicality.
But it still doesnt change what I said.

Wrong again. The topic was about my solution and part of it is to create a different version of JH (movie accurate) under different name. It could work and you cannot win in a court against Sony. Therefore you are butt-hurt about it.

@Fire

Given that were talking about the same source, it’s still the same thing. Same character.

And since I’m not going by opinion, my own perception, or twisting any information, I’m simply stating facts, I’ve won.

This round goes to me.

Wrong as always. Nowhere, no one promised source exclusivity. This is fact and you cannot do anything about it.
I have lost count here how many times I won. Perhaps more than playing P:HG.

@Fire

You can try again.
But if you come at me with a different topic when your speaking about this one.
Or try to warp information, or opinions, your point will become irrelevant.

It’s sad how you want to turn a conversation into a fucking contest because your so damn selfish and self centered.

You are peaking at your nonsense. Your life is based on lies. And like with others projection and cognitive dissonance is big with you.

@GreyBack

Illfonic isn’t going to release a ‘new, better’ DLC JH - it’s obvious to everyone except this lunatic. This thread is just an infinite loop of bullshit about an inconsequential subject.

A delusional lunatic like you still believe that he can dictate Sony and IllFonic what they can or cannot release. Lol.

@DhRauta

Fake news? About me owning a truffle dog? Wtf you must be crazy

Pigs are better.