“PRED IS OP!”, “FT IS OP!”, is someone OP?

#1

This game needs leagues. It will help the game, it will help the community, and it will help Illfonic. and this is why…

I keep seeing this back n forth. People screaming this side is OP, this class is OP, or this build is OP…
what side is right? What side is wrong? Is one side lying? Is one side just bad at the game?..

I like open forums. I’m an American, so freedom of speech is important to me. Everyone deserves a voice, and ideally all voices would be created eual, but saddly thats not the cases…

What dose that mean? I’ll tell you…

The opinion of someone thats under the recommended age for this game, never played an Asymmetric Game before, never seen any of the movies, and just started playing an hour ago isn’t going to have the same grasp of what this game is and what it should be as someone that was born in the 80s/early 90s, grew up with the movies, plays Asymmetric Games, and been playing this game sense launch.
I know that sounds mean, but sometimes facts are mean… 🤷🏻‍♂️

That said, its hard to gage how seriously anyone on this forum should be taken or if they should be taken seriously at all.
For ever one person thats giving honest unbiased feedback theres many that just want their side to be easier to play…
Its hard for us on the forum to separate the honest people from the lying cheats, and its probably just as hard for Illfonic…

Thats why i think we need leagues…
Not only would leagues allow people of equal dkill level to be matched up making the game more fun for all players and not just the pros when the crush an amateur, but also Illfonic could see the learning curves in real time.
They could see how one side fairs in lower skill Nood leagues vs. how well they fair in high skill pro leagues…

They can see what side is dominating where, get a better idea of what side may or may not actually be “OP” and adjust accordingly…

(Disclaimer:
The above statement is only the expressed opinion of the Person saying it(Duh…) and not in anyway the thoughts or opinions of @Sharpy_47 or any other member of the forum.)

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#2

I think with this recent patch, the game is now balanced as both FT and PR…

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#3

iF ITS balanced than there is no need 4 upgrading weapons. period.

#4

I’m in.

80% of the forum topics are hogwash as is. We need solid player DATA feedback right now.

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#5

It’s close. Still need a few buffs and nerfs for both sides.

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#6

I agree with this idea in principle but I don’t think it will work in this game because of the (relatively) small player base. It’s already tough to get a game as pred with a single pool of players. Dividing that up may cause more problems.

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#7

Devs can create a server side elo/mmr in just quickplay if need be.

Have it visible in-game to only the player account and base matchmaking off that. High tier MMR/Elo will need a broader MM rating after X minutes and that’s it.

Most games already do this, youll still get mop fests every once in a while but it’s not as heavy in punishment as SBMM

#8

i dont think they can split the already small playerbase into skill levels it is already hard to get a game

#9

When it comes to leagues. Its an excellent idea… However if incorporated into matchmaking. Its gonna make finding matches all the more difficult unfortunately.

#10

I tend to believe that it’s not an intentional attempt to steer balance in their favor as much as just lacking perspective from not playing the other side enough. That is, I think they’re ignorant not malicious.

At any rate, the league or ranked queue idea ain’t bad in this case. I do think one major thing that most people in this community haven’t experienced yet is playing as Predator against a stack of four highly-coordinated friends and that’s something this would change pretty quickly. Even if not four friends, you’d at least get quality players that know damn well working together is in their favor.

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#11

Scissors is OP said paper.
Paper is unbalanced said rock.
Rock needs a nerf said scissors.

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#12

Sounds good to me.

#13

I would not say anyone is OP right now , the only 1 complaint as a 100 percent time FT player is the amount of pigs , its just ridiculous ;D So far it has been very simple , good players on 1 side - win.
Saying something is OP kinda got muffled in meaning , saying something is OP = you get a good player
against a weaker one , the last winning because … well hes using something OP, havent noticed any of that. And here’s where the pigs come into play. Basically I’ve played alot and encountered (in total 2 weeks of time) like 5 very skilled predators , all of them scounts on PC , won like 2 , got away once and lost twice. 2 times we had a full 4 PC FT , decent guys , 2 times it was me on PC with 3 PS4 guys battling with hordes of AI wich a good predator made sure are there ;D And that 1 time especially , when we had to run to the choppa , we outplayed him 4 times on the road , he was coming full hp back again and again and again , that OP IMO. I dont get all the shit people throw into the devs , game is fun , ye sure its buggy ,
give bois some time.

#14

both sides still need some changes, but it’s pretty fair right now if you play either side properly, or just with common sense lol fireteams tend to be feast or famine with randoms as one bad player can potentially lead to a loss. i think it’s also fair to say that it’s quite difficult for 1 player to carry an entire fireteam, and even 2 players is quite difficult.

generally speaking, it’s the less skilled players want all these buffs to compensate for their lack of skill, and that’s not what balance is, or supposed to be at all. if you want to truly feel like a pred, then play the old avp games. like, some of these people are actually mad that they can’t just kill off the ft like they’re ai.

as for the ft, if you’re running around by yourself, hoping to take on the pred 1v1, or just have poor map awareness, then there’s a good chance you’re gonna end up dead. that applies to all ft members too; just because there’s 4 of you doesn’t mean you’re gonna be safe, even if you’re bunched up together.